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    Superman

    I don't consider Superman a MGTOW.

    He doesn't go his own way. He puts all other people ahead of his own interests.

    While he certainly isn't stupid in any way, he simply does not do anything in his own interests. Everything he does if about doing it for the common or the greater good and will always put other people ahead of himself.

    BUT, i just can't see him as a mangina. He will defend himself against a woman, and he will hit a woman, but ONLY if absolutely necessary to do so.

    But give the radicals a chance, and they will still do what they can to emasculate him in any way they can.

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    Re: Superman

    Not sure why this is a thing, but you don't get the psychology/design of Superman. He's meant to be an ideal. A concept. The embodiment of certain values. He's not really meant to die or be a hero like Batman or something. Even though Batman is an embodiment in his own right. The question with Superman is: "Is he doing the right thing?", not "How will he defeat ____?". That would explain his self-sacrifice. He embodies it. He embodies the greater good.

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    Re: Superman

    This is my current favorite MGTOW article

    http://sheddingoftheego.com/2015/07/...-your-problem/

    Your heroism isn’t the capitol letter insignia of a cape wearing man in red and blue tights, your heroics are written small. You might sit in a car in grid locked traffic for hours each day just to get to the job you work to pay for her house, groceries and lifestyle. And don’t let your name on the mortgage confuse you, that’s her house. This is part of what makes you a hero. And That commute of yours is heroic too, in case you wondered.

    Despite your lower-case heroism, you have all the super qualities of that capitol-s emblazoned comic book myth. You weather abuse and indifference to your own pain with almost the noble silence of a Kryptonian. You routinely put your own needs last after the needs of those you serve. And if you imagine that deal is reciprocal, you are in error. But your service and self sacrifice does have one benefit, you get a provisional public identity as a “real man”. So long as you don’t rock the boat. Superman doesn’t complain about the burdens of being superman.

    But of course, Superman is an imaginary character from a comic book. By contrast, you are a real person. The fact that you are an actual man living in the real world is of course why your day to day heroic qualities are small. A real man cant compete with an imaginary fellow who flies and deflects bullets.
    But superman doesn’t exist. Which is to say, he exists as an imaginary heroic figure, to put your small-H heroism into his shadow. And your sacrifices of comfort, of your health, of your own needs behind the needs of those you serve comprise your real world modeling of the hero archetype.

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    Re: Superman

    Quote Originally Posted by Laboratory Mouse View Post
    Not sure why this is a thing, but you don't get the psychology/design of Superman. He's meant to be an ideal. A concept. The embodiment of certain values. He's not really meant to die or be a hero like Batman or something. Even though Batman is an embodiment in his own right. The question with Superman is: "Is he doing the right thing?", not "How will he defeat ____?". That would explain his self-sacrifice. He embodies it. He embodies the greater good.
    Yes I know.

    I wish to be a writer and a lot of stories are meant to illustrate the author's belief.

    Star Trek is actually a vehicle for gene Roddenberry's ideal utopia too, as one example.

    But the problem with popular stories and characters is that they will always represent the popular trends in their contemporary culture. And another huge problem is that all writers ahve to have their creative take and will always have to change the show or the character in some way.

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    Re: Superman

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Me View Post
    Yes I know.

    I wish to be a writer and a lot of stories are meant to illustrate the author's belief.

    Star Trek is actually a vehicle for gene Roddenberry's ideal utopia too, as one example.

    But the problem with popular stories and characters is that they will always represent the popular trends in their contemporary culture. And another huge problem is that all writers ahve to have their creative take and will always have to change the show or the character in some way.
    Interesting. We'd have something to discuss, as I write fiction myself. Would be nice to see what comes of that.

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    Re: Superman

    Quote Originally Posted by Iron Me View Post
    He doesn't go his own way. He puts all other people ahead of his own interests.
    I wonder if he looks that way to you/us because we only see the Daily Planet's (er, DC Comics) media coverage of what Superman does after he gets his immediate and primary self-interests met? The dude has superpowers so he has generosity to spare, and maybe that's only what we see. That's what gets press. Who knows how many women he enticed into that deceptively-named Fortress of Solitude? How many women would love to know the intimate feel of the Man of Steel? He ain't stupid. Guy's got game.

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    Re: Superman

    Superman is alien secular Jesus. Until he gets tar flavored kryptonite, then he gets interesting.
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    And what he would get
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    Re: Superman

    Quote Originally Posted by starcruiser View Post

    And what he would get
    This is a brilliant illustration of female hypergamy and vine swinging. This should be copied in the MGTOW Comics section and made sticky. This is a classic, illustrating Chris Rock's point about the diamond dick.

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    Of course superman is not mgtow, he has Lois Lane wich doesn´t make any sense since she have nothing to offer him and sex would kill her.

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    Re: Superman

    Quote Originally Posted by Hello_World View Post
    Of course superman is not mgtow, he has Lois Lane wich doesn´t make any sense since she have nothing to offer him and sex would kill her.
    So, true.

    Wonder Woman was the better choice.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Superman

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    So, true.

    Wonder Woman was the better choice.
    Meh. I couldn't care less about these people when I have my own.
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    Quote Originally Posted by nothingness View Post
    HONK!
    An agenda is clearly being pushed, since this wasn't always the case.
    "Courage is the catalyst that manifest ambitions." - Transcendent Sacred Courage

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    Re: Superman

    Where's the unlike button?
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    Re: Superman

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    Where's the unlike button?
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