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    Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Hey guys long time no talk. I got a question how many of you falter?

    For me my biggest concern is hating women and being angry. I do not want to be a cynical, being in that state of negativity isn't good for me. It depresses me and makes me miserable, I can't handle it and I absolute hate the negative view of women too, especially since they aren't angels.

    I been dealing with major depression and I was in a bad car accident last year in 2021 was in coma 2 months and was in a wheelchair for almost a year. I'm currently walking with a cane.

    So I tried dating while I was vulnerable I'm still somewhat vulnerable due to my shitty experience when I was in a wheelchair, my experiences with women were awful, money hungry, self entitled bitches!!!! and I'm not happy with that fact. I've tried going to a counselor, who is a woman and I nearly lost my marbles. So I tried dating again and I'm absolutely pissed off again.... Same shit, I'd hope it was gonna be different. But that fucking wreck has took a toll on me.

    I know I fucked up. I really hope to talk to someone, get advice , what do I need to do?

    Advice, on the negativity I been experiencing, not just dating but what do you guys do when you catch yourself falling back to that God damn blue pilled "reality".

    Criticism is welcomed , I prefer constructive criticism but I'd also like advice on where to look for masculine ideals in a positive sense.

    Movies (to movitation for men) is a start
    Anything useful in Bible for men?
    How about when it comes to approach dating women, like most women I meet are really just... So self absorbed, "kids first", "take me to dinner", etc I don't feel like wasting my time anymore with those who have unrealistic expectations. Isn't this called frame control? It's not just dating but women in general in society.

    I'm angry, depressed, lonely, and losing my marbles.

    Note: I'm not looking for dating advice, I'm not looking to find a woman to cure me, what I'm looking for is your perceptions and advice or experience in a similar situation I'm in, what would you do? and how to approach the situation when I'm forced to having to interact with women in public especially if they flirt with me.
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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by Alphacrazybaztard83 View Post

    I'm angry, depressed, lonely, and losing my marbles.
    So what good is dating a woman going to do you? You think she is going to help this? I think not.

    Fix YOU first. Learn to live as a content and peaceful single man.

    Knock off a piece of ass much further down the road in life. Fix YOU first.
    "People are always angry at anyone who chooses very individual standards for his life; because of the extraordinary treatment which that man grants to himself, they feel degraded, like ordinary beings."
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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    You need to realize the grass is not greener on the other side of the fence. Guys you see with women, you think their living happily ever after? If you do, I have a bridge for sale cheap. That woman you see driving a nice car, you think she's buying it, or is her man? If you could see what these guys lives are really like you wouldn't think they had it so great.

    If you still want contact with women, you want a passport. The chance of finding a keeper, or even a temporary in the USA is ten percent of nothing. If you can't afford a trip, well then it sux to be you. But really, going abroad is your only hope, you'll never find one worth a damn at home.

    Angry, depressed and lonely? Women can't cure that; you need a pet. I'm a cat person myself, but a dog sounds like what you need.
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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by Alphacrazybaztard83 View Post
    Hey guys long time no talk. I got a question how many of you falter?

    For me my biggest concern is hating women and being angry. I do not want to be a cynical, being in that state of negativity isn't good for me. It depresses me and makes me miserable, I can't handle it and I absolute hate the negative view of women too, especially since they aren't angels.

    I been dealing with major depression and I was in a bad car accident last year in 2021 was in coma 2 months and was in a wheelchair for almost a year. I'm currently walking with a cane.

    So I tried dating while I was vulnerable I'm still somewhat vulnerable due to my shitty experience when I was in a wheelchair, my experiences with women were awful, money hungry, self entitled bitches!!!! and I'm not happy with that fact. I've tried going to a counselor, who is a woman and I nearly lost my marbles. So I tried dating again and I'm absolutely pissed off again.... Same shit, I'd hope it was gonna be different. But that fucking wreck has took a toll on me.

    I know I fucked up. I really hope to talk to someone, get advice , what do I need to do?

    Advice, on the negativity I been experiencing, not just dating but what do you guys do when you catch yourself falling back to that God damn blue pilled "reality".

    Criticism is welcomed , I prefer constructive criticism but I'd also like advice on where to look for masculine ideals in a positive sense.

    Movies (to movitation for men) is a start
    Anything useful in Bible for men?
    How about when it comes to approach dating women, like most women I meet are really just... So self absorbed, "kids first", "take me to dinner", etc I don't feel like wasting my time anymore with those who have unrealistic expectations. Isn't this called frame control? It's not just dating but women in general in society.

    I'm angry, depressed, lonely, and losing my marbles.
    For me my biggest concern is hating women and being angry. I do not want to be a cynical, being in that state of negativity isn't good for me. It depresses me and makes me miserable, I can't handle it and I absolute hate the negative view of women too, especially since they aren't angels.
    You said it all right there. You are going through red pill rage. It's ok to a point but not to live that way. Why bother hating women? They don't care about you so don't waste energy on them. The thing you are doing now is drinking poison and expecting someone else to feel it but you are only making yourself sick. Don't hate women. They are the way they are. It's been like that before we got here and it'll be like that when we are long gone.


    I been dealing with major depression and I was in a bad car accident last year in 2021 was in coma 2 months and was in a wheelchair for almost a year. I'm currently walking with a cane.
    I am sorry to hear that. Have you told your doctors about your depression?

    So I tried dating while I was vulnerable I'm still somewhat vulnerable due to my shitty experience when I was in a wheelchair, my experiences with women were awful, money hungry, self entitled bitches!!!! and I'm not happy with that fact. I've tried going to a counselor, who is a woman and I nearly lost my marbles. So I tried dating again and I'm absolutely pissed off again.... Same shit, I'd hope it was gonna be different. But that fucking wreck has took a toll on me.
    You are at fault for this buddy. Sorry not sorry to tell you that. There is plenty of information out there that tells about dating nowadays. Stay away from it. It's only hurting you.

    Request a new counselor. You are not making any progress with this one and that's all you have to say.

    I know I fucked up. I really hope to talk to someone, get advice , what do I need to do?
    You need to focus on you. I am going to tell you as it is. I know where you are coming from as a man. I miss the touch and feminity of a woman but it's not worth the destruction and drama it brings. To be quite honest, once I rub one out in the shower every morning and night I am fine. Post nut clarity. I don't even think of women anymore.

    Think of yourself as a broken football team. You need to focus on what's BEST for you. Rebuild you. What makes YOU happy. I really mean truly happy. If you are going to say a woman then you are only going to back to square one. 0-17. Go ahead and draft another first pick bust and go in circles. Insanity is doing the same thing over and over while expecting different results.

    Once I focused on me and did a roster cut of ALL the negatives in my life then my life was much happier.

    Advice, on the negativity I been experiencing, not just dating but what do you guys do when you catch yourself falling back to that God damn blue pilled "reality".
    You admitted to catching yourself. Listen to that voice inside you that is telling you to stop! I always go with that voice inside me. Call it my gut or whatever but I always listen to it. It is NEVER wrong.

    Criticism is welcomed , I prefer constructive criticism but I'd also like advice on where to look for masculine ideals in a positive sense.

    Movies (to movitation for men) is a start
    Anything useful in Bible for men?
    How about when it comes to approach dating women, like most women I meet are really just... So self absorbed, "kids first", "take me to dinner", etc I don't feel like wasting my time anymore with those who have unrealistic expectations. Isn't this called frame control? It's not just dating but women in general in society.

    I'm angry, depressed, lonely, and losing my marbles.
    This is a good bible verse site. I use it. Type anything you want into the search box and there is verses for it.

    Dating is a waste today. If you are dating then you are just paying someone else's way in life. AVOID it. She is just looking for a bail out. Once she gets it then she'll dump you for the next dick in line.

    PM me if you want to talk further.
    Stay away from women. They will only break your heart.

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    Brother, hopefully my words can help you get reassured. You're not going crazy. By questioning yourself over getting crazy is actually proof you aren't going to. The way I see it, you're going through a double mourning process. The first one is about your car accident and you got injured. The mourning I see with people who are in similar health situations is the mourning over realizing 1 very harsh fact: all certainties you thought you had in life were never there. One moment you're all fine and after a heart beat you find yourself in a wheelchair after that accident. Same goes for people who get a very bad medical diagnosis. And all this can happen to me and everyone else. I have managed to identify 3 certainties in life: death, taxes and uncertainty.
    The second mourning I see is you're still in the RedPill mourning phase. You have bargained with Red by trying to date and you feel highly disappointed over the experiences. I'm assuming here. Correct me where I'm wrong. I see your hatred being the last remnants of energy of caring about women. Hatred is the lowest form of caring. With hatred one wishes/ acts to give the "target group" the worst possible in life. My advice is to identity/ observe the hatred in yourself and let it burn out without acting on it. It'll take time but eventually it'll turn into blissful indifference. The hatred, IMO, comes from you seeing the lies we've been fed about women. The caring of women is hardwired into our systems. In computer terms: it's the OS which is driving us through life. TRP all all kinds of "apps" you have to load in to "circumvent" the OS. What I did was I just accepted the fact that in my instincts I'm attracted to females and wanting to take care of them. But I don't need to for my own well being and survival. With time my reaction of seeing nice curves walking down the street is the same as seeing a car driving by I like. "wow, nice butt. Wow, nice car!" Walk on and 5 seconds later I've forgotten the whole thing.

    So in that regard nothing is wrong with you mentally. I'm not talking about the depression, mind you. IDK if you suffer from it, because all I can see is your OP. I advice you to look for a male psychologist. Even if that's the most blue pilled cuck imaginable, he is still a man and is programmed the same way you and I regarding women. Look through your RP lens and pick out what's helping you with the treatment.

    As for your questions about movies/ the Bible for your situation? A movie doesn't come in mind ATM. And I'm no Bible expert. From my limited knowledge your situation reminds me of the books of Job (Everything can and will be taken away from you. Accept that). And the crucifixion (The suffering needed to realize the transience of "the form"). But I'll gladly let christian brothers fill in for me regarding the Bible. Or other religions for that matter.

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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    If you still want contact with women, you want a passport. The chance of finding a keeper, or even a temporary in the USA is ten percent of nothing. If you can't afford a trip, well then it sux to be you. But really, going abroad is your only hope, you'll never find one worth a damn at home.
    Not really... He will still deal with female nature. Yes, he may appear higher value coming from a Western country. He can't bring her to that country, that just westernizes her, he has to go there to live. For most men this is not a viable solution. If you have retired, wealthy or have an offshore job, that may work.... A good understanding of TRP/female nature is required... Still lots of traps to be avoided...

    P2P closer to home might be a better option, just get the sack emptied and get on with life MGTOW....

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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by Alphacrazybaztard83 View Post
    I been dealing with major depression and I was in a bad car accident last year in 2021 was in coma 2 months and was in a wheelchair for almost a year. I'm currently walking with a cane.

    like most women I meet are really just... So self absorbed, "kids first", "take me to dinner", etc I don't feel like wasting my time anymore with those who have unrealistic expectations.
    So, what were you expecting, man? That some woman you never met before would take your depressed, wheelchair-bound ass and take care of you? When every one of them has a dozen better options?

    Is what it is, man. Unconditional love is for parents and children, everywhere else in life love is quid pro quo. Women are a burden. Women are a cost. I mean, if you can afford it - sure, fucking is nice. But you sound like you want some woman to rescue you, and that just doesn't happen. Women don't rescue you, you rescue them. Always has been, always will be.

    Life sucks for you. But you gotta expect that after being in a bad car accident - it's unreasonable to expect otherwise.

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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by Alphacrazybaztard83 View Post
    For me my biggest concern is hating women and being angry.
    Start with the basics:

    Shut off anything that depresses you. Get that stuff out of your life as much as possible. TV, movies etc preach BP ideals. That can keep brain washing you to simp after women...

    Work on you. Physically be the best you can be. Work out, heal, kick any addictions, stay away from drugs. Research the drugs the doctors have you on from your accident, do they cause depression as a side affect? Eat healthy, grow your own food if possible.

    Find achievable goals in your life: Short, middle and long term goals. Even daily ones. Achieving goals can lessen depression.

    Face facts: 90% of the women want the top 10% of men. You are not a top 10%er after your car accident, if you were before is for you to answer. The other 10% of women you don't want...
    Look up and read, The Rational Male Blog. Look on YT for videos explaining female nature like Briffault's Law and Hypergamy. Learn and understand what you are dealing with when you deal with women. AWALT, yes even your mother and sister(s), there are NO unicorns!!!

    Stop Dating: You are being used as a meal ticket. You are not a top 10%er, she doesn't want you. she is just depressing you.

    Think positive.... That can be the hardest.

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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by RustyNuts View Post
    Not really... He will still deal with female nature. Yes, he may appear higher value coming from a Western country. He can't bring her to that country, that just westernizes her, he has to go there to live. For most men this is not a viable solution. If you have retired, wealthy or have an offshore job, that may work.... A good understanding of TRP/female nature is required... Still lots of traps to be avoided...

    P2P closer to home might be a better option, just get the sack emptied and get on with life MGTOW....
    Too right you are, but this one still seems to be looking and he won't find it at home.

    Even when renting, he'd be better off out of the country. It doesn't look like there's quality pay for play available anywhere in the US.
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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by Alphacrazybaztard83 View Post
    Hey guys long time no talk. I got a question how many of you falter?

    For me my biggest concern is hating women and being angry. I do not want to be a cynical, being in that state of negativity isn't good for me. It depresses me and makes me miserable, I can't handle it and I absolute hate the negative view of women too, especially since they aren't angels.

    I been dealing with major depression and I was in a bad car accident last year in 2021 was in coma 2 months and was in a wheelchair for almost a year. I'm currently walking with a cane.

    So I tried dating while I was vulnerable I'm still somewhat vulnerable due to my shitty experience when I was in a wheelchair, my experiences with women were awful, money hungry, self entitled bitches!!!! and I'm not happy with that fact. I've tried going to a counselor, who is a woman and I nearly lost my marbles. So I tried dating again and I'm absolutely pissed off again.... Same shit, I'd hope it was gonna be different. But that fucking wreck has took a toll on me.

    I know I fucked up. I really hope to talk to someone, get advice , what do I need to do?

    Advice, on the negativity I been experiencing, not just dating but what do you guys do when you catch yourself falling back to that God damn blue pilled "reality".

    Criticism is welcomed , I prefer constructive criticism but I'd also like advice on where to look for masculine ideals in a positive sense.

    Movies (to movitation for men) is a start
    Anything useful in Bible for men?
    How about when it comes to approach dating women, like most women I meet are really just... So self absorbed, "kids first", "take me to dinner", etc I don't feel like wasting my time anymore with those who have unrealistic expectations. Isn't this called frame control? It's not just dating but women in general in society.

    I'm angry, depressed, lonely, and losing my marbles.

    Note: I'm not looking for dating advice, I'm not looking to find a woman to cure me, what I'm looking for is your perceptions and advice or experience in a similar situation I'm in, what would you do? and how to approach the situation when I'm forced to having to interact with women in public especially if they flirt with me.
    That's because you're all fucked up trying to control life, trying to make the pieces fit, instead of stepping back, seeing it for the mosaic and letting it flow the course of least resistance and capitalizing on psychological advantages, these being knowledge of the things you can change and accepting the things you can't, all the while navigating between the two.

    The practiced art of solidarity drives loneliness away, loneliness comes from seeking to not be alone, especially after a close personal relationship turned mutiny. A fresh torn heart invites loneliness, a hardened heart is a scared heart all healed up and never to be torn again, tough a leather! You're apparently fresh from the sewer pool of dating in search of filling an emptiness instead of seeing the things that are full and overflowing. Navigating on hope is a recipe for disaster, navigating on reality keeps you from disaster, the wisdom to know the difference is mentally soothing and relaxing.

    You're not gonna get anywhere bouncing around the brutal world of dating as if there is no other life to be lived, you're focused on one and loosing the other! Life's a demolition derby and you're not wearing your helmet and seatbelts!

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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by Alphacrazybaztard83 View Post
    Hey guys long time no talk. I got a question how many of you falter?

    For me my biggest concern is hating women and being angry. I do not want to be a cynical, being in that state of negativity isn't good for me. It depresses me and makes me miserable, I can't handle it and I absolute hate the negative view of women too, especially since they aren't angels.

    I been dealing with major depression and I was in a bad car accident last year in 2021 was in coma 2 months and was in a wheelchair for almost a year. I'm currently walking with a cane.

    So I tried dating while I was vulnerable I'm still somewhat vulnerable due to my shitty experience when I was in a wheelchair, my experiences with women were awful, money hungry, self entitled bitches!!!! and I'm not happy with that fact. I've tried going to a counselor, who is a woman and I nearly lost my marbles. So I tried dating again and I'm absolutely pissed off again.... Same shit, I'd hope it was gonna be different. But that fucking wreck has took a toll on me.

    I know I fucked up. I really hope to talk to someone, get advice , what do I need to do?

    Advice, on the negativity I been experiencing, not just dating but what do you guys do when you catch yourself falling back to that God damn blue pilled "reality".

    Criticism is welcomed , I prefer constructive criticism but I'd also like advice on where to look for masculine ideals in a positive sense.

    Movies (to movitation for men) is a start
    Anything useful in Bible for men?
    How about when it comes to approach dating women, like most women I meet are really just... So self absorbed, "kids first", "take me to dinner", etc I don't feel like wasting my time anymore with those who have unrealistic expectations. Isn't this called frame control? It's not just dating but women in general in society.

    I'm angry, depressed, lonely, and losing my marbles.

    Note: I'm not looking for dating advice, I'm not looking to find a woman to cure me, what I'm looking for is your perceptions and advice or experience in a similar situation I'm in, what would you do? and how to approach the situation when I'm forced to having to interact with women in public especially if they flirt with me.

    My best advice would be man. Quit chasing women but that's probably you've heard it lot of times
    Then start doing something new and make a lot of money. Might've heard it

    Then what can be the best way to find peace. Well i found it in within. It was always there, it's the dopamine and always has been about it. One way to rise above it is maturity. You can't find anywhere but again it's inside you. All the religions around the globe had one way to do that and that was celibacy. Now i am on it from a long long time. It's way above normal man's head. Prior to it my life was boring until I watched porno or played games, fantasizing about perfect women, never looking upon myself as the central protagonist. After starting the practice of no fap, literally every bullshit thing i do, my brain finds it interesting and keeps me motivated. It's like a dime. You are literally floating in peace, no hunt for women, or desperately wanting to make money or get a nice car or some shit, earlier i used to get headaches cause my friends wouldn't invite me to their treat but now i don't give a shit. the first thing all you want is you. Now i get it how the men who left society were in peace, you can literally live in society and don't feel bothered about anything if you practice this extraordinary superpower which is there in yourself. Infact legs also feel much stronger like Usain Bolt, full of energy, and no more headaches like i used to have them earlier. Head becomes thick like a WWE wrestler. That's all I know. And as for the depressed thing.

    Here is my social media accounts. Anytime, anywhere, always ready to help a fellow MGToW.

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    Re: Stupid me I'm going crazy

    Quote Originally Posted by Alphacrazybaztard83 View Post
    Hey guys long time no talk. I got a question how many of you falter?

    For me my biggest concern is hating women and being angry. I do not want to be a cynical, being in that state of negativity isn't good for me. It depresses me and makes me miserable, I can't handle it and I absolute hate the negative view of women too, especially since they aren't angels.

    I been dealing with major depression and I was in a bad car accident last year in 2021 was in coma 2 months and was in a wheelchair for almost a year. I'm currently walking with a cane.

    So I tried dating while I was vulnerable I'm still somewhat vulnerable due to my shitty experience when I was in a wheelchair, my experiences with women were awful, money hungry, self entitled bitches!!!! and I'm not happy with that fact. I've tried going to a counselor, who is a woman and I nearly lost my marbles. So I tried dating again and I'm absolutely pissed off again.... Same shit, I'd hope it was gonna be different. But that fucking wreck has took a toll on me.

    I know I fucked up. I really hope to talk to someone, get advice , what do I need to do?

    Advice, on the negativity I been experiencing, not just dating but what do you guys do when you catch yourself falling back to that God damn blue pilled "reality".

    Criticism is welcomed , I prefer constructive criticism but I'd also like advice on where to look for masculine ideals in a positive sense.

    Movies (to movitation for men) is a start
    Anything useful in Bible for men?
    How about when it comes to approach dating women, like most women I meet are really just... So self absorbed, "kids first", "take me to dinner", etc I don't feel like wasting my time anymore with those who have unrealistic expectations. Isn't this called frame control? It's not just dating but women in general in society.

    I'm angry, depressed, lonely, and losing my marbles.

    Note: I'm not looking for dating advice, I'm not looking to find a woman to cure me, what I'm looking for is your perceptions and advice or experience in a similar situation I'm in, what would you do? and how to approach the situation when I'm forced to having to interact with women in public especially if they flirt with me.
    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    So, what were you expecting, man? That some woman you never met before would take your depressed, wheelchair-bound ass and take care of you? When every one of them has a dozen better options?

    Is what it is, man. Unconditional love is for parents and children, everywhere else in life love is quid pro quo. Women are a burden. Women are a cost. I mean, if you can afford it - sure, fucking is nice. But you sound like you want some woman to rescue you, and that just doesn't happen. Women don't rescue you, you rescue them. Always has been, always will be.

    Life sucks for you. But you gotta expect that after being in a bad car accident - it's unreasonable to expect otherwise.
    Actually your first paragraph said my mindset when i was in college or in school.


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