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    "Starter Husband" -- Better Bachelor's latest vid is an eye opener

    I thought having been MGTOW for several years had already given me a thick skin and there wasn't much that could shock me. I was wrong. I've figured out that I have a deep-seated belief:

    It's wrong to use sex and "love" in order to use someone for economic gain.

    I still think this is true. However, I no longer hold out any hope that many women believe that and live by it. If I were to guess, I would say that maybe, if you're lucky, one tenth of one percent of women might live like that. The percentage might be higher among Amish women. Among them, maybe it's two percent.

    Then for a while I thought that maybe most women didn't plan to be such greedy cunts, and they felt like they were in love until they got bored and hypergamy kicked in. Then they acted like monsters. However, if you watch the video, you'll see that many women plan in advance to use a man.

    Our MGTOW lifestyle is basically a guide on how to survive in a dystopia. Honestly, the only way I could see things being worse is if women got married planning to murder their husband and take 100 percent of his stuff, and I'm sure even that happens sometimes.

    I still don't understand how someone can be so awful. It takes someone with no morals and no conscious to do this.

    https://youtu.be/gycoarKT55o
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    Seems the cure for the golddigger dystopia is to either adopt the Phillipine marriage model - no divorce, so no alimony or child support or the Saudi model - wives can't leave the house without the husband's permission and a chaperone.

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    I thought having been MGTOW for several years had already given me a thick skin and there wasn't much that could shock me. I was wrong. I've figured out that I have a deep-seated belief:

    It's wrong to use sex and "love" in order to use someone for economic gain.

    I still think this is true. However, I no longer hold out any hope that many women believe that and live by it. If I were to guess, I would say that maybe, you're luck, one tenth of one percent of women might live like that. The percentage might be higher among Amish women. Among them, maybe it's two percent.

    Then for a while I thought that maybe most women didn't plan to be such greedy cunts, and they felt like they were in love until they got bored and hypergamy kicked in. Then they acted like monsters. However, if you watch the video, you'll see that many women plan in advance to use a man.

    Our MGTOW lifestyle is basically a guide on how to survive in a dystopia. Honestly, the only way I could see things being worse is if women got married planning to murder their husband and take 100 percent of his stuff, and I'm sure even that happens sometimes.

    I still don't understand how someone can be so awful. It takes someone with no morals and no conscious to do this.

    https://youtu.be/gycoarKT55o

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    >Our MGTOW lifestyle is basically a guide on how to survive in a dystopia.

    Very much this. Feminism is elite social engineering -- the elite have regressed women back to the Paleolithic era mentally intentionally to control the population (making women so undesirable, few men would marry or procreate with them). And it's working.

    The method, feminism, is just a positive-sounding expression to mask the true purpose: the intentional corruption of the modern woman.

    From the video, at 9:30, when the woman (Andi) demands a divorce from her husband (Tucker) in less than 1 year of marriage, notice how cold she is. How unaccountable she is.
    Commitment is meaningless.

    THIS is the end-product of "feminism"- women can do no wrong. All that matters is how she feels. Morality/ethics are out the window.

    If you don't want to wake up from this nightmare and go your own way, but instead stubbornly stick to the old, outdated playbook of yesteryear, and somehow consider marriage a "goal", enjoy dancing around the minefield.

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    When it comes to this well documented dystopia society, I'm a leaf blower in a forest of char and ash. I cleared out my own little area all to myself and planted a garden of Eden v. 2.0, where there's no one to destroy it like Eve did to Eden and every garden planted since.

    Moral of the story, don't plant life's garden with an Eve anywhere in sight to destroy it, that's what they do, that's what they've always done!

    In my life's saga, Eve got hit with the apple she wanted me to swallow and thrown out the garden of my life! Eve is all on her own to plant her own garden, or raid the gardens of men unaware of her natural born intent.

    I'm powerless over speeding trucks and wondering women looking for gardens to devour, the only cure is to get off their path and stay on my own, and where the paths cross, quickly get to the other side!
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    Women veiw men as tools.

    A starter car or house for man, a women veiw men as a unfeeling objects Their to serve her.

    This why men must never love women or deal with them in any serious matter. This may be seem extreme but it damn near life or dead at this point in dealing with women.

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    I'm an atheist, but I find myself in agreement with this Christian web site that calls so-called "starter marriages" a "disturbing trend." I'm surprised by how much I agree with this Christian web page. If I see a Christian page, I usually agree with only maybe 10 percent of it.

    https://www1.cbn.com/marriage/the-re...rter-marriages

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    It's easy to hate a woman like this, but the way I see it, that's sort of like hating a mosquito because it tries to bite you. The real problem is the courts that grant women like this half of the man's assets, force him to support her "in the lifestyle to which she has become accustomed", and treat the whole thing like his fault.

    I've never understood the "the lifestyle to which she has become accustomed" thing. If she wanted to maintain this lifestyle to which she has become accustomed, why would she be throwing it away by divorcing him?

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    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    I'm an atheist, but I find myself in agreement with this Christian web site that calls so-called "starter marriages" a "disturbing trend." I'm surprised by how much I agree with this Christian web page. If I see a Christian page, I usually agree with only maybe 10 percent of it.

    https://www1.cbn.com/marriage/the-re...rter-marriages
    I had to pull the last couple paragraphs from that article to exemplify where the tradcons really go off the rails.

    “Consequently, we need to begin teaching our children early on that marriage is a sacred act in which two become one. God does not want us breaking covenant with impunity. The decision to marry is serious and should be made only after much time, prayer, and godly counsel. It is not something to be tried on for size because you fear independence, want to be loved, or desire a trophy.

    Furthermore, parents need to examine their own marriages and honor their wedding vows. Children and teens learn by example and we've set a bad one. The idea of starter marriages may have developed in response to baby boomers divorcing at record rates. Their young adult children are scared of intimacy and fear abandonment no matter how "in vogue" the culture tries to make divorce look.”

    If you have kids teach them the truth. The men who really get fucked over, consequently, believe marriage is sacred. Anyone who believes marriage is sacred today is in for a rude awakening.

    No amount of prayer or godly counsel is going to keep your wife or girlfriend.

    Children do not only learn from their parents, at one point in history divorce was not the norm and it was illegal. Children learn from everyone around them, whatever example is set by the parents is hardly relevant, if kids go to public schools they learn from teachers and their peers. Children also grow up, become adults and make their own choices based on the environment in which they exist.

    The invention of the birth control pill in 1960, the legalization of abortion, women entering the workplace and the increased availability of goods and services disolved any need for marriage. No woman needs to get married anymore, she wants marriage because it has benefits. A man wants marriage because he is ignorant and/or unwilling to challenge his beliefs.

    Colttaine covers this is in his video, “Marriage; An Addendum”.

    https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=sp_rgqRugho

    At one point marriage was the only birth control available. One man married one woman and together they raised whatever children which were born to her. With modern technology and differences in wealth some men today can afford to raise millions of children and other men can afford to raise only a few.

    We also have the government who pays to raise all the children if the parents do not want to work. Whether we agree with this or not irrelevant, it is the world we live in. Today we have everything we need in abundance. There is no need for marriage. Marriage is never coming back. Go your own way, invest in hobbies, activities, and skills that you enjoy.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jadedoldman65 View Post
    It's easy to hate a woman like this, but the way I see it, that's sort of like hating a mosquito because it tries to bite you.
    I'm believing this more and more.

    Forget all the love and sweetness shit, forget the "Disney Dream" and fairy tales, forget all what your relatives might have shown you what a marriage "Should" be like.... All that is now lies!!! Get over it!!!

    Feminism has unleashed Female Nature: Women have resorted back to Stone Age or before behavior. Hypergamy, Briffault's Law etc. was all formed in female nature by trial and error in evolution. If female's didn't adopt these behaviors, chances are humans would not have survived. Feminism has changed acceptable female behavior, most men can't understand (don't want to or too stupid to see) that a man also has to change his behavior. Yes, we MGTOW have chosen to walk.... That is one safe way of dealing with this change.

    The feminism can't, isn't, never will be undone.... It would be like trying to put the smoke back into that cooked out appliance and expect it wo work... The idea of turning back the clock to Joan Cleaver days and with the dead appliance need to be firmly placed in the bin, time to move on with your life.... First the easy part, go buy another appliance....

    Female behavior has changed, male behavior has not. Females are taking advantage of this slowness to react, as in BB video... The female "Market" has changed, males are not changing with market conditions!!! WTF, most of us men react fairly quickly to changing conditions in our environment, why not with female behavior?

    Female Nature was developed in pre and Stone Age times, maybe men have to adopt male behaviors that dealt with female nature from the same time period...

    I'll play it safe, I'm out!!!

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    The reaction to fundamental conditions that aren't life threatening is usually slow.

    It takes 2-3 generations for rural farmers to adjust to industrial/service economies and realize ~2 kids are optimal and not "as many as possible".

    It will probably take 3-4 generations (Boomer, X, Millie, Zoomer) to adapt to this wantoness. Advanced Boomers saw it, GenXers experienced a huge jump in divorce of their parents, Millies are realizing it at least in their 30s, and Zoomers will probably be the turning point. Zoomers

    A good recession/depression will shock things up too.

    Tradcons don't realize LAWS restricting divorce and regulating marriage and allowing discipline (beyond their silly "Read the Bible to your Rebellious, Wanton Woman" and "Be perfect and above reproach, wash dishes for her" only answers now) are necessary.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Montauk View Post
    The reaction to fundamental conditions that aren't life threatening is usually slow.
    Yes, I agree. Also, most people store the happier times in their memory, or want to recall the happier times more often. As every generation has had some kind of indoctrination in childhood about how to treat the opposite sex, even in stories and fairy tails, these times people recall as feel good memories. Parents want to pass these (or have the child feel the same) feel good memories to the next generation.

    Santa Claus is a prime example. "They are children, let them believe in Santa while they are young". Yes, a lie. The other lies, as in the fairer sex, the weaker sex, girls are sweet etc are also lies, but unlike Santa these lies will stay with the children longer... The longer you believe something the harder it is to dis-believe it. Then the teenage hormones kick in, combined with lust, orgasms, the feeling of love and the male is truly BPed. Most parents are not RP aware, so they pass the ideals along to the children as they were passed to them, the cycle continues...

    Female Nature is slowly red pilling men, most men can see it after she burns him, but they don't want to believe AWALT. Sadly, lots of men still seek a unicorn...

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    The only thing that can perk my interest is a woman looking for a "starter cock", but to my recollection all available slots have been filled...
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    Felt it! This is so unusual emotions. Brrr

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    It's amazing how no dating and no marriage solves this problem without breaking a sweat. ⁸

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    It's videos like this that make my blood boil!
    This video proves that most women are gold diggers, and view us men as nothing but a disposable utility, a walking talking ATM, or a wallet with a penis.
    Take your pick.

    Sometimes the red pill can be a hard pill to swallow.
    But watching videos like these make the red pill go down that much easier.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Spartacus View Post
    It's videos like this that make my blood boil!
    This video proves that most women are gold diggers, and view us men as nothing but a disposable utility, a walking talking ATM, or a wallet with a penis.
    Take your pick.

    Sometimes the red pill can be a hard pill to swallow.
    But watching videos like these make the red pill go down that much easier.
    I guess when you have 500+ simps lined up within a 25 mile radius men really do become disposable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    I guess when you have 500+ simps lined up within a 25 mile radius men really do become disposable.
    Under those circumstances I think we're that preverbal "diamond in a garbage dump" they never find, even when we're within grasp.

    "You wouldn't even know a diamond if you held in in your hands" (Steely Dan--- reelin' in the years).
    Bundle up, boys, it's gonna be a long cold endless winter.


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    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    Our MGTOW lifestyle is basically a guide on how to survive in a dystopia. Honestly, the only way I could see things being worse is if women got married planning to murder their husband and take 100 percent of his stuff, and I'm sure even that happens sometimes.

    I still don't understand how someone can be so awful. It takes someone with no morals and no conscious to do this.

    https://youtu.be/gycoarKT55o
    It’s really a sobering video. Every time I see examples like this it only reinforces the fact that swallowing the red pill was one of the most intelligent things I’ve ever done. Much like the guy in the video I also feel bad for the guys who dream of a successful marriage and an ultimately peaceful and happy existence. They will never have their dreams fulfilled due to the toxicity of women, especially the modern woman. It’s becoming more of a losing battle every day and simps everywhere fail to realize this because they are lead around by emotions and fantasies.

    It’s fucked up out there. Good luck to all the simps who will be spending their Sunday swiping around on Match.com today.

    The one, the “love” of your life, she’s just around the corner, right? lol

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    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    I guess when you have 500+ simps lined up within a 25 mile radius men really do become disposable.
    Very true Edward.
    Yet I still have some hope, that at least SOME of these 500 simps will wake up, take the red pill and become one of us.

    To quote Agent Smith.
    It is INEVITABLE.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Spartacus View Post
    It's videos like this that make my blood boil!
    This video proves that most women are gold diggers, and view us men as nothing but a disposable utility, a walking talking ATM, or a wallet with a penis.
    Take your pick.

    Sometimes the red pill can be a hard pill to swallow.
    But watching videos like these make the red pill go down that much easier.
    Quote Originally Posted by Canadian Spartacus View Post
    Very true Edward.
    Yet I still have some hope, that at least SOME of these 500 simps will wake up, take the red pill and become one of us.

    To quote Agent Smith.
    It is INEVITABLE.
    Well these women will choose/use/share say 50 of these men which leaves the other 450 getting even more desperate. Instead of trying to double down on becoming "what women want" to gain acceptance -- some of those men will hopefully start thinking logically and become curious about what's happening. That's when hopefully they find a red pill somewhere that starts making them see things in a new light. Taking a red pill can often mean seeing things differently than all your family and friends.


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