Thread: Something has got to be done about alimony, child custody and support.

Any politician listening, want to win by a landslide? Hone in on this issue.


I have a friend who is paying child support and alimony and he’s not allowed to see his kids...


What kinda fucked up and evil system is this?


I also know in Texas they take 20% of your income. You make 3200 a month and they will take about 600. I have read so many heartbreaking stories of guys literally becoming homeless because they ran into hard times and couldn't afford the payments and ended up in jail or homeless. Most are good fathers who want to be in THEIR CHILD's life.


Men have to pay to see THEIR child.


Women often are never put on or prosecuted for the failure of child support and will typically always get sole custody.


It takes two to make a single person a father or a mother.


From a outsider; barebones perspective. We have grown ass men and women controlling other grown ass men and women's lives and children, unjustly. Motivated by the dollar, using the women as pawns....Solidified by corruption, and enforced with brute force of local law enforcement, weapons, and imprisonment.


https://www.youtube.com/shorts/x8AktTRNDzg

The guy in the middle video claims he has an income of $300 / month? How is it possible to survive on this even if he retains all of it? (no support payments at all).

He doesn’t have a driving licence so he can’t live out of a car.

How is this guy surviving?

This post was referring to the second vid in the list, wich was the middle vid when I made the post. More have been added since.

Originally Posted by Jackoff

The guy in the middle video claims he has an income of $300 / month? How is it possible to survive on this even if he retains all of it? (no support payments at all).

He doesn’t have a driving licence so he can’t live out of a car.

How is this guy surviving?

He took his life. Regardless of his financial struggle, the woman still made the choice to sleep with him and that is THEIR child. She essentially got rewarded for a bad deed. She got her payback...by and enforced by the state. To drive him into financial ruin and then into suicide.

There is something very dark about using weapons to control another man's ability to see his kid. I personally belive everyone involved WILL pay the ultimate punishment, spiritually; in the next life.

I’ve got a few good friends that have been through this. And, I’ve talked with women that we’re going through it.

Now, I, myself have so for been spared, for what ever reason because, during the winter of 2016-2017, I hit an extreme low and began raw dogging some broad and not pulling out…

9 months later, the threats of taking me to court began calling in. Every year, she tries to get at me with the same old shit. I ignore her now. The last thing I texted her was “Have me served if you want any money”.

I’m not going to help her put me on the hook, she has to do that all by herself.

What I noticed from even my friends was that I should just run down to the health department and submit a dna test, or try talking to her, or send her some cash, or at least answer the phone.

Bullshit. She started with the threats and I cut her all the way off.

The boy is going to be 6 next month. I have never met him. I’ve seen pictures and videos, and he looks like me but, he still might not be mine.

My one good friend allowed himself to be railroaded by his whore of an ex-wife to the point that he was still paying her even when he took over full custody…The gobbermint does not give a rat’s ass about the man, even if he is in the right…

I’ve been stacking cash, growing a 401k, sliding money into stocks, keeping out of debt, and having a lawyer on retainer. It can only go a few different ways:

1) She has me served for paternity testing and the boy is mine. In this case, I will at worst get 50% custody and have to pay roughly 25% of my income to her because she won’t work. (I already save nearly 50%). I will have to deal with her drama occasionally and will just ignore her most of the time. I will be painted as the deadbeat spermdonor but, the boy will learn to see otherwise by the time he becomes a man…I will incur minimal lifestyle changes to adapt because I have been financially planning and will get to spend time with my son…

2) I am served the papers to test and I am not the father. Weight will rise off of my conscience and I will breathe a little easier…

3) She dumps the boy off at my doorstep. Then I will employ my lawyer to see to it that he is mine and that she is deemed unfit to be a mother, losing any custody rights…

4) She comes at me sideways, without the law, because she doesn’t want to get caught up. Example: Multiple cars park in front of my house, multiple people beating on my door, yelling for me to come out. Possibly doing the same to any of my family…Won’t probably happen because they will assume I’d just call the law rather than deal with their indigent outlaw way of handling things.

5) I get offed by one of her simps that buys into her story because he’s thirsty for her gash. I’m usually armed, and always keen on my surroundings…

My situation is unique, I know. But, maybe there’s something in there that someone can use.

Now, my Bro, that I just wrote about last month, he’s paying his ex every paycheck without court order, living on his bosses couch, and doesn’t think he needs to talk to a lawyer…I just cussed him up and down last night. He’s setting himself to become another statistic by trusting the broad and trying to keep her happy…I just hope his kids don’t turn on him…He punched a wall when he found out that she wasn’t paying the bills, so she kicked him out for being angry and scary…

The women I’ve talked to, know the system. It’s like they study it in between changing diapers. They know how to lie, they know what buttons to push to get the guy to hang himself, they know they can charm the cops, the lawyers, and the judges into believing their spin…Some are more malicious than others, but they want the same thing: Victim status and not having to work for their money…

The last girl I dated, wanted to get married. She came on very strong. But, when I told her I’m only open to marriage if is doesn’t involve the government, her pussy dried right up…

Marriage without the government involved means that the woman actually has to be a good wife and keep her man pleased, to actually work as a team for the mutual benefit of the family. And, the man is the one holding the power. Everyone knows, especially our precious women, that the government will ensure that the woman maintains complete control of the man. And, that man will be destroyed if he falls out of line.

My brain’s a little foggy today, and I’m no expert but, this is just my take…

The basic rule is avoid women in countries that speak English. Average child support award is $67 per month in Ukraine with no alimony. Downside... You will probably have to learn Russian.

Wonderful society we live in huh? Women gather together in masses online telling each other to get pregnant so they can get dat 10k.

The women I’ve talked to, know the system.

There is more truth in this statement than you know.

Women are herd animals. They group together, share information, and execute based on what worked for the rest. Military guys under 25 seem to be the easiest marks. Free for the first time, looking to get laid, unencumbered revenue stream, no experience yet in how the real world works; 'cute' older woman shows interest... Cap't Sav-A-Ho trots up on a white steed, ready to battle for the poor, innocent damsel of distress. Of course, the damsel turns out to be the wicked witch of the west, using her prior experience with Divorce, Inc. to bend him over for the next 18 years.

There is a solution though. Not 'the' one that will fix the problem, but does protect the individual. It's quite simple, and 99% effective:

1. Vasectomy.
2. Passport.

Western nations are rapidly turning into corrupt communist shitholes, flailing about to indenture to the plantation all they can before they implode. Ironically enough, to find the freedom you seek, for a brief time anyway, you actually have to vacation in an actual, non-western communist shithole.

Good luck.

Originally Posted by Malinois

I’ve got a few good friends that have been through this. And, I’ve talked with women that we’re going through it.

Now, I, myself have so for been spared, for what ever reason because, during the winter of 2016-2017, I hit an extreme low and began raw dogging some broad and not pulling out…

9 months later, the threats of taking me to court began calling in. Every year, she tries to get at me with the same old shit. I ignore her now. The last thing I texted her was “Have me served if you want any money”.

I’m not going to help her put me on the hook, she has to do that all by herself.

What I noticed from even my friends was that I should just run down to the health department and submit a dna test, or try talking to her, or send her some cash, or at least answer the phone.

Bullshit. She started with the threats and I cut her all the way off.

The boy is going to be 6 next month. I have never met him. I’ve seen pictures and videos, and he looks like me but, he still might not be mine.

My one good friend allowed himself to be railroaded by his whore of an ex-wife to the point that he was still paying her even when he took over full custody…The gobbermint does not give a rat’s ass about the man, even if he is in the right…

I’ve been stacking cash, growing a 401k, sliding money into stocks, keeping out of debt, and having a lawyer on retainer. It can only go a few different ways:

1) She has me served for paternity testing and the boy is mine. In this case, I will at worst get 50% custody and have to pay roughly 25% of my income to her because she won’t work. (I already save nearly 50%). I will have to deal with her drama occasionally and will just ignore her most of the time. I will be painted as the deadbeat spermdonor but, the boy will learn to see otherwise by the time he becomes a man…I will incur minimal lifestyle changes to adapt because I have been financially planning and will get to spend time with my son…

2) I am served the papers to test and I am not the father. Weight will rise off of my conscience and I will breathe a little easier…

3) She dumps the boy off at my doorstep. Then I will employ my lawyer to see to it that he is mine and that she is deemed unfit to be a mother, losing any custody rights…

4) She comes at me sideways, without the law, because she doesn’t want to get caught up. Example: Multiple cars park in front of my house, multiple people beating on my door, yelling for me to come out. Possibly doing the same to any of my family…Won’t probably happen because they will assume I’d just call the law rather than deal with their indigent outlaw way of handling things.

5) I get offed by one of her simps that buys into her story because he’s thirsty for her gash. I’m usually armed, and always keen on my surroundings…

My situation is unique, I know. But, maybe there’s something in there that someone can use.

Now, my Bro, that I just wrote about last month, he’s paying his ex every paycheck without court order, living on his bosses couch, and doesn’t think he needs to talk to a lawyer…I just cussed him up and down last night. He’s setting himself to become another statistic by trusting the broad and trying to keep her happy…I just hope his kids don’t turn on him…He punched a wall when he found out that she wasn’t paying the bills, so she kicked him out for being angry and scary…

The women I’ve talked to, know the system. It’s like they study it in between changing diapers. They know how to lie, they know what buttons to push to get the guy to hang himself, they know they can charm the cops, the lawyers, and the judges into believing their spin…Some are more malicious than others, but they want the same thing: Victim status and not having to work for their money…

The last girl I dated, wanted to get married. She came on very strong. But, when I told her I’m only open to marriage if is doesn’t involve the government, her pussy dried right up…

Marriage without the government involved means that the woman actually has to be a good wife and keep her man pleased, to actually work as a team for the mutual benefit of the family. And, the man is the one holding the power. Everyone knows, especially our precious women, that the government will ensure that the woman maintains complete control of the man. And, that man will be destroyed if he falls out of line.

My brain’s a little foggy today, and I’m no expert but, this is just my take…

Excellent take.

Regarding your situation I found it intriguing. I pray it doesn't come down to scenario #5, but with how emotional and fast these simps are multiplying it's seeming like this outcome is becoming more probable.

Always some sick f**k looking to be used as a step father. It's the saddest shit in the world raising another man's seed.

Originally Posted by ftdjc1

It's quite simple, and 99% effective:

1. Vasectomy.

Good luck.

I agree, don't leave anything to "Luck".

With the snip, get tested regularly, more than once nature has found a way... Does not stop rape or sexual assault allegations.

You as a man are playing her game under her rules.... If you are going to play, be prepared to pay. It's a high price to pay for a little fun. I put it like, a smart mouse eating cheese from a mouse trap... Sooner or later that mouse will get complacent, and the trap will win...

Rather anyone will admit it or not, with marriage rates going down the whole alimony/support system is slowly losing revenue. We don't notice it so much cause the system is a pipeline and the men now being harvested started their journey earlier when there were more of them. Alimony and child support won't look like much of a growth industry if no bachelors are signing up.

But you can bet the authorities in charge of this racket see the numbers and realize their power is waning. What you think they're going to do? Fold up their tent and retire gracefully, or squeeze every last dime out of whoever still comes within their power?

The system is rotten alright, but unfortunately, it's not going to change, and we can't make it.

Originally Posted by frog

Rather anyone will admit it or not, with marriage rates going down the whole alimony/support system is slowly losing revenue. We don't notice it so much cause the system is a pipeline and the men now being harvested started their journey earlier when there were more of them. Alimony and child support won't look like much of a growth industry if no bachelors are signing up.

But you can bet the authorities in charge of this racket see the numbers and realize their power is waning. What you think they're going to do? Fold up their tent and retire gracefully, or squeeze every last dime out of whoever still comes within their power?

The system is rotten alright, but unfortunately, it's not going to change, and we can't make it.

I was going to say that the system is being corrected, with the dropping marriage rates. However, like you said, those who are benefiting from it won't just sit back and watch the gravy train go away. You said that they're going to squeeze those they can for all they're worth...and I agree. However, I suspect that they're also going to try to expand this business model. We've already seen it...even a non-cohabitation relationship with no children can result in alimony. The next logical step is to apply a responsibility to any interaction you have.

Some potential examples: Give a woman a ride to work because you're going the same way? She'll be able to go the to courts and obligate you to provide transportation, even if one of you moves or changes jobs. Invite a neighbor for dinner regularly because she works late and cooking for two isn't much more difficult than cooking for one...you'll find yourself obligated to feed her. Mow a neighbor's yard or shovel her walks because you're much bigger than her and have a lawn mower...I'm sure she'll find a way to obligate you to continue if you ever quit.

The divorce industry is lucrative, so the business model was exported to cohabitation. Look for it to be exported even more.

The divorce industry is lucrative, so the business model was exported to cohabitation. Look for it to be exported even more.

What a truly miserable thought. What is really depressing though, is I can actually see it happening in the current cultural climate.

Perhaps expatriation isn't such a bad idea after all.

Family court will never dry up completely, they'll always have some trade. But if marriage is down, it should eventually reduce the number of couples needing their services.

More responsibility for cohabitation is probably in our future. I know we got it now, but mostly it's been rich guys. Maybe some hard-up lawyers will start going after middle-class men?

Women pull the most nasty tricks to fuck men over on the daily but yet we can't point it out.

And god for bid you give them a negative descriptive adjective

Sickening but hey that humanity for ya

Originally Posted by manaloneforever

He took his life.

I realise this now. I don't know what came over me. My only guess is that I got so caught up in seeing the guy in front of me telling his story that the text being overlaid somehow got pushed aside.

My abject apologies to all.

Originally Posted by manaloneforever

Any politician listening, want to win by a landslide? Hone in on this issue.


I have a friend who is paying child support and alimony and he’s not allowed to see his kids...


What kinda fucked up and evil system is this?


I also know in Texas they take 20% of your income. You make 3200 a month and they will take about 600. I have read so many heartbreaking stories of guys literally becoming homeless because they ran into hard times and couldn't afford the payments and ended up in jail or homeless. Most are good fathers who want to be in THEIR CHILD's life.


Men have to pay to see THEIR child.


Women often are never put on or prosecuted for the failure of child support and will typically always get sole custody.


It takes two to make a single person a father or a mother.


From a outsider; barebones perspective. We have grown ass men and women controlling other grown ass men and women's lives and children, unjustly. Motivated by the dollar, using the women as pawns....Solidified by corruption, and enforced with brute force of local law enforcement, weapons, and imprisonment.

A woman's greed cannot be measured or stopped. Every father, of course, wants to support his child. However, much or most of the child support paid is really ex-wife support. They don't spend all that money on the child.

You won't legislate this injustice away. Therefore, the only real solution is MGTOW. Simply NEVER knock any woman up. It's not worth it. I've known men who have had to live in a vehicle like a van or an obsolete RV thanks to child support. Meanwhile, he's paying child support and the mortgage of a house where his ex is fucking another man. It's insanity.

Do you know what keeps me still here? Google.
Every time I'm starting to consider white picket fence seriously again,
I invevitably/inadvertently end up googling "allimony/child support in <my country>".

First thing that shows up are those lawyer blogposts - "how to extract money from ex husband",
"what to do if he refuses/flees". Then i go to comment section where tons of boomer single mothers ask
for advice.
"my simp doesn't pay (enough), what should i do?"

Every fifth comment is a male one. A sad story of a father who lost everything, has no money and still has to pay.
And then I wonder: how do I prevent? how do I avoid? how do I live knowing that my life has and is actively being stolen/drained?

In order to control your biology you just need to know what happens if you don't.

Originally Posted by bazalgette

Do you know what keeps me still here? Google.
Every time I'm starting to consider white picket fence seriously again,
I invevitably/inadvertently end up googling "allimony/child support in <my country>".

First thing that shows up are those lawyer blogposts - "how to extract money from ex husband",
"what to do if he refuses/flees". Then i go to comment section where tons of boomer single mothers ask
for advice.
"my simp doesn't pay (enough), what should i do?"

Every fifth comment is a male one. A sad story of a father who lost everything, has no money and still has to pay.
And then I wonder: how do I prevent? how do I avoid? how do I live knowing that my life has and is actively being stolen/drained?

In order to control your biology you just need to know what happens if you don't.

I'm 100 percent certain that a huge number of men's suicides are because of divorce and then getting raked over the coals for child support.