Page 1 of 2 12 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 23
  1. #1

    Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    So I've been thinking about this for a long time. Taking the Red Pill has released me from the chains of Western society. Kids, marriage, loans, etc. Digging yourself into a hole you can't get out of in the name of "the American Dream". I've become self-actualized and figured out that when you need less, you don't need some shitty job that makes you waste gas money plowing through traffic at 7am when you've barley gotten up. What sane person would want to do that for 45 years? Ok so we got that out of the way. But I'm in a unique position in that I have parents who are really well off and I don't really need to get some shitty soul sucking 9-5 job. I don't want kids either. Why work that much and pay taxes? Just to raise money for Chads children? I got denied sex for most of my youth and won't get to have a family of my own and you think I want to pay taxes for Chad's kids to live hunky dorey? HAH. Anyways. I've tried to hold down jobs and they let me go for the stupidest reasons like asking similar questions to many times. That's it. I do my job and am even on time every morning but even that's not enough for those fuckheads. I have some learning issues but I find that people just don't care and they will put money over the human every time. Is there a way besides owning a business to get good money and do you even really need a job in my circumstance?

  2. #2
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    May 2014
    Location
    Bumfuck, Egypt
    Posts
    2,530
    Reputation
    9495
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    If your parents, and their money ever go away, you'll be up shit creek without a paddle. You want to risk becoming a homeless bum? If you end up there, no one will give a rats ass. I had a friend who ended up homeless when his parents died, it wasn't pretty.

    You don't have to work your ass off, but you need to be able to take care of yourself.

    "Work" is not easy and fun. If something is easy and fun, someone will do it for nothing.
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

  3. #3

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    If your parents, and their money ever go away, you'll be up shit creek without a paddle. You want to risk becoming a homeless bum? If you end up there, no one will give a rats ass. I had a friend who ended up homeless when his parents died, it wasn't pretty. You don't have to work your ass off, but you need to be able to take care of yourself. "Work" is not easy and fun. If something is easy and fun, someone will do it for nothing.
    Their house is fully paid off and they are good people and would never leave me to dry.

  4. #4
    Senior Member ResidentEvil7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2021
    Location
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    Posts
    341
    Reputation
    325
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Being autistic has kept me from landing a job my whole adult life. I have to live with my dad, on disability (SSI) and SNAP, medicate; none of which I wanted when I was in school. All those applications (whether I passed the assessment test or not) and interviews and not even a shot to a second or three interviews and no job. I came close a few times, but there's no prize job for coming in second. It's gotten so bad that I took my disability money, withdrew it from my bank account, put it into a safe to let it build. When my best friend, who I love as if he was my second older brother and is also on disability, pays me back a loan he accumulated in the past 4+ years, I'm going to take the money and invest in an at-home business teaching fitness, wellness, nutrition and resell quality supplements online. I want to stop this waste of time job searching and go into business I can do at home with my money.

    So my suggestion to you about working, do it if you must, if you don't and have enough money to make it the rest of your life, let it be up to you. If you do, I suggest you don't blow your money on too much stuff you don't need and save it up for a future of freedom and independence.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

  5. #5

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    Being autistic has kept me from landing a job my whole adult life. I have to live with my dad, on disability (SSI) and SNAP, medicate; none of which I wanted when I was in school. All those applications (whether I passed the assessment test or not) and interviews and not even a shot to a second or three interviews and no job. I came close a few times, but there's no prize job for coming in second. It's gotten so bad that I took my disability money, withdrew it from my bank account, put it into a safe to let it build. When my best friend, who I love as if he was my second older brother and is also on disability, pays me back a loan he accumulated in the past 4+ years, I'm going to take the money and invest in an at-home business teaching fitness, wellness, nutrition and resell quality supplements online. I want to stop this waste of time job searching and go into business I can do at home with my money. So my suggestion to you about working, do it if you must, if you don't and have enough money to make it the rest of your life, let it be up to you. If you do, I suggest you don't blow your money on too much stuff you don't need and save it up for a future of freedom and independence.
    Smart man. Never spend money you don't have, never marry, and avoid debt and your smooth sailing.

  6. #6

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    "Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?"
    Most need a job ... if only for their "own self-worth".
    frog, "...
    you need to be able to take care of yourself."
    me: Y
    ou SHOULD BE PREPARING to take care of yourself. "Life turns on a dime." "Watch out for the curve ball."
    I defy being told what I need; it's condescending, demeaning.
    No offense to frog ... I hope.
    I love my toxic masculinity. It smells like victory, and poisons all the correct critters.

  7. #7

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    Being autistic has kept me from landing a job my whole adult life. I have to live with my dad, on disability (SSI) and SNAP, medicate; none of which I wanted when I was in school. All those applications (whether I passed the assessment test or not) and interviews and not even a shot to a second or three interviews and no job. I came close a few times, but there's no prize job for coming in second. It's gotten so bad that I took my disability money, withdrew it from my bank account, put it into a safe to let it build. When my best friend, who I love as if he was my second older brother and is also on disability, pays me back a loan he accumulated in the past 4+ years, I'm going to take the money and invest in an at-home business teaching fitness, wellness, nutrition and resell quality supplements online. I want to stop this waste of time job searching and go into business I can do at home with my money. So my suggestion to you about working, do it if you must, if you don't and have enough money to make it the rest of your life, let it be up to you. If you do, I suggest you don't blow your money on too much stuff you don't need and save it up for a future of freedom and independence.
    I agree with that. Invest your $ wisely and buy used stuff to save money. Buy your car in cash. Like a Honda or Toyota. Let people obsessed with status buy their MERCS and go into debt.

  8. #8
    Senior Member ResidentEvil7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2021
    Location
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    Posts
    341
    Reputation
    325
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    The biggest money mistake I made was from March 2007 - January 2013 and that is when I was issued a VISA card while with no income at the time. I was jealous of my best friend because he had a visa card, he was paying for things all the time, and all I had was a debit card with little money on it. So I applied to a bunch of credit cards, got approved for 1 (my Sony VISA, which I still have and is my only charge card) and I started going crazy buying things and treating my best friend, buying gas for my then-crappy 1989 Bonneville SE. I was doing great with my card, paying off the small charges every month and on-time every month, that I got suckered into applying for more cards (I got approved for 26 credit cards, but had 6 with balances on them) and I screwed myself. 6 minimal payments every month, when the only income I was getting before I applied for disability was $20 a week from my dad, and money from my birthday and Christmas.

    September 2008, I went too far on a purchase at Best Buy, by buying a big-screen TV for $950 + no interest for 12 months. The 12 months of interest I didn't pay for the first year hit me in one statement (my balance was higher a year later than the day I paid for the TV). The highest balance I had among 6 cards was $3,200 and I had about $1,500 in the bank. So I felt scared and said "I need to get out of this before I ruin everything" paying 6 minimal payments each month, hoping some kind of income would come in by the time I run out of cash. The only hope I got is when my mom hired me to work as a painter and laborer at my stepfather's contracting business, and then working as a poll worker during elections ($250 per assignment), sold my Bonneville (it died and was too expensive to keep in 2009). Every card I did pay off, and even the others I had but didn't have balances on them, I canceled my accounts and cut up the cards and said "good riddance." Christmas of 2012, I had like $250 left in balances and my mom gave me $300 to pay off the remainder of the debt in January 2013. I don't know what all that debt with 5+ years of monthly interest on 6 cards came to, and I don't want to know or I'll cry, but I won't do that again. I have been debt sober ever since. Even though I was underwater for over 5 years, I still managed to pay off each card on time each month. Now my credit score, as of last month, is 803 Experian.

    I have just 1 VISA card left and it's the first one I had, because I built up a lot of credit history with it, but I don't charge what I don't have. What I did to myself for 5 years woke me up to the dangers of credit loans and since January 2013 (almost 9 years now; 106 months in November 2021) I have not had a single month (NOT ONE MONTH) where I couldn't pay my VISA off in full. I no longer carry a balance that I can't pay off each month in full and I don't pay interest. Face it, when you have card debts and you can't pay it off, you're just making your past purchases more expensive and you're just making the bank richer while you're getting poorer. DON'T CHARGE WHAT YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY!

    Now that I have my disability income every month, I feel free to spend some of that money, but car insurance, gas, plates (I have a November car, and it's now $151 in Illinois) and food my SNAP doesn't cover comes first. Again, even with disability money cominging in every month, I still don't charge the money I don't have given to me. The SSI money that I do get, but don't spend each month, I have to withdraw it from my account (the government requires you to let them know when your account is over $2,000 at any given time), put the cash in my safe and let it build. So far in 6 years among some spending and saving with SSI, I built $20,000 in savings in my safe and in a few months, I plan on going into business with some of that money.

    The point of my story is don't charge what you don't have; save your money when it comes and avoid credit/home/car loans (it'll just cost you more long-term). I went from being in thousands of dollars in the hole I struggled for years to get out of, to now having tens of thousands of dollars of saved up money with smart intentions and no debts.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

  9. #9
    Senior Member ResidentEvil7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2021
    Location
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    Posts
    341
    Reputation
    325
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    The only jobs I ever had was painter/laborer with my stepdad's business and election judge (which I still do) because of my disability. It's funny that employers don't want anything to do with me if I can even pass the application's assessment test, yet I taught myself how to build and repair desktop PCs and how to do advance programming, but my dad comments on how I struggle to load a dishwasher and put plastic bowls of different shapes away properly.

    Autism can either be a blessing if you can take advantage of it, or it could be a curse by society.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.

  10. #10

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    "... and no debts."
    There's nothing like the first debt-free morning. Multiple delightful resets all day long.
    I love my toxic masculinity. It smells like victory, and poisons all the correct critters.

  11. #11

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    The only jobs I ever had was painter/laborer with my stepdad's business and election judge (which I still do) because of my disability. It's funny that employers don't want anything to do with me if I can even pass the application's assessment test, yet I taught myself how to build and repair desktop PCs and how to do advance programming, but my dad comments on how I struggle to load a dishwasher and put plastic bowls of different shapes away properly. Autism can either be a blessing if you can take advantage of it, or it could be a curse by society.
    I don't have autism but if you do, it's even better that you are red pilled because you are ripe for being taken advantage of by a woman with not much social or dating experience. Don't sign any sort of contract until you research and read the fine print.

  12. #12

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    As I see it, your dad is blue pilled (you are the proof of that). My life motto is: better to have it and not need it than v.v.
    Something could always happen to 1 of your parents. If your mother dies, your dad is in danger of getting booked by a gold digger. If your dad dies, your mom could very well waste all the family fortune.
    Like already said: learn to hold your own pants, OP. That's my advice.

  13. #13

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by RedPilledSimp View Post
    As I see it, your dad is blue pilled (you are the proof of that). My life motto is: better to have it and not need it than v.v. Something could always happen to 1 of your parents. If your mother dies, your dad is in danger of getting booked by a gold digger. If your dad dies, your mom could very well waste all the family fortune. Like already said: learn to hold your own pants, OP. That's my advice.
    He probably is blue pilled but he's also heading into his 70's which means he came from a generation that wasn't as stupid and destructive as the ones being produced today. He was blue pilled but he was smart and at almost 70 years old and married for over 30 years there's no way he's going to "get back into the market" because he's too fucking old and really out of shape. Same with my mom. Both are caring and non-destructive people but they are blue-pilled. They are careful with money so I'm just going to play it smart and rely on that because I know their personalities.

  14. #14
    Banned
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Posts
    94
    Reputation
    200
    Type
    mgtow

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    I went the NEET route. Why work if you don't want to? "Have to"? Sure. Want to? I guess if it's doing something for you. I don't need an excuse to wake up at 6am, it happens whether I want it to or not.

    I prefer shit-posting and streaming stuff and going out and playing all day long. I'd prefer not having to justify my existence every hour to someone else.

  15. #15

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    I went the NEET route. Why work if you don't want to? "Have to"? Sure. Want to? I guess if it's doing something for you. I don't need an excuse to wake up at 6am, it happens whether I want it to or not. I prefer shit-posting and streaming stuff and going out and playing all day long. I'd prefer not having to justify my existence every hour to someone else.
    Sometimes the best move is to not make a move at all You don't need to do all this BS shit that society says you need to if your smart like us. I'll just wait until they croak, take the $ and run XD

  16. #16

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by RenaiZance View Post
    He probably is blue pilled but he's also heading into his 70's which means he came from a generation that wasn't as stupid and destructive as the ones being produced today. He was blue pilled but he was smart and at almost 70 years old and married for over 30 years there's no way he's going to "get back into the market" because he's too fucking old and really out of shape. Same with my mom. Both are caring and non-destructive people but they are blue-pilled. They are careful with money so I'm just going to play it smart and rely on that because I know their personalities.
    IDK, OP. Donald probably thought the same thing...

  17. #17
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Posts
    443
    Reputation
    591
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    If I didn't have to work I wouldn't. The bullshit about a job providing a sense of purpose and self esteem is just that, bullshit. I would be happy sitting around playing guitar all day and surfing the net. I could come up with heaps of projects to keep myself busy and provide purpose.

    Just be careful that your parents are a/ Actually going to leave you money and b/ They aren't already spending it all without you knowing!

    Never rely on others. Even a part time or casual job would allow you to build a nest egg while you live off your parents money. Look into investments as well for your future.

  18. #18

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    If I didn't have to work I wouldn't. The bullshit about a job providing a sense of purpose and self esteem is just that, bullshit. I would be happy sitting around playing guitar all day and surfing the net. I could come up with heaps of projects to keep myself busy and provide purpose.

    Just be careful that your parents are a/ Actually going to leave you money and b/ They aren't already spending it all without you knowing!

    Never rely on others. Even a part time or casual job would allow you to build a nest egg while you live off your parents money. Look into investments as well for your future.
    This would be ideal, get a part time job so you don't feel committed to staying there - you'll have something to do & make some cash while still have plenty of free time & the option to just quit should you need. If you don't work will your parents be really so inclined to give you a sizable inheritance or they could grow to feel that you're just doing nothing with your life, forget getting marred but not even working could be crossing a line at that point. I mean that in the blue pill sense, staying single and calling yourself a bachelor perse is not something parents would be too disappointed in, not that their opinion should concern you but if they've raised you properly and given you a decent life, personally don't want to disappoint them in the sense of becoming a NEET which they'd be ashamed of, hence being at-least somewhat financially independent and a "contributing member of society" , I say that in quotes for sarcasm --- seems to be a bare minimum for older blue-pill boomer parents like mine, that and I know they won't have much to leave me being lower-mid class family so it'll be on my head to stay afloat.

    Having least some sort of part-time job would help to keep them off your back per-se.

    Once I've got a few 100 thousand, I know I'd switch to part-time or contract work with no commitments - long as you can afford being financially independent to fund your lifestyle with investment income on my end, then yes, fuck work lmao. Financial freedom at that point would allow you to take far more risks and find niches in order to continue making $ from non-standard 9-5 boring ass office jobs in that case.

  19. #19

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    Quote Originally Posted by ResidentEvil7 View Post
    The biggest money mistake I made was from March 2007 - January 2013 and that is when I was issued a VISA card while with no income at the time. I was jealous of my best friend because he had a visa card, he was paying for things all the time, and all I had was a debit card with little money on it. So I applied to a bunch of credit cards, got approved for 1 (my Sony VISA, which I still have and is my only charge card) and I started going crazy buying things and treating my best friend, buying gas for my then-crappy 1989 Bonneville SE. I was doing great with my card, paying off the small charges every month and on-time every month, that I got suckered into applying for more cards (I got approved for 26 credit cards, but had 6 with balances on them) and I screwed myself. 6 minimal payments every month, when the only income I was getting before I applied for disability was $20 a week from my dad, and money from my birthday and Christmas.

    September 2008, I went too far on a purchase at Best Buy, by buying a big-screen TV for $950 + no interest for 12 months. The 12 months of interest I didn't pay for the first year hit me in one statement (my balance was higher a year later than the day I paid for the TV). The highest balance I had among 6 cards was $3,200 and I had about $1,500 in the bank. So I felt scared and said "I need to get out of this before I ruin everything" paying 6 minimal payments each month, hoping some kind of income would come in by the time I run out of cash. The only hope I got is when my mom hired me to work as a painter and laborer at my stepfather's contracting business, and then working as a poll worker during elections ($250 per assignment), sold my Bonneville (it died and was too expensive to keep in 2009). Every card I did pay off, and even the others I had but didn't have balances on them, I canceled my accounts and cut up the cards and said "good riddance." Christmas of 2012, I had like $250 left in balances and my mom gave me $300 to pay off the remainder of the debt in January 2013. I don't know what all that debt with 5+ years of monthly interest on 6 cards came to, and I don't want to know or I'll cry, but I won't do that again. I have been debt sober ever since. Even though I was underwater for over 5 years, I still managed to pay off each card on time each month. Now my credit score, as of last month, is 803 Experian.

    I have just 1 VISA card left and it's the first one I had, because I built up a lot of credit history with it, but I don't charge what I don't have. What I did to myself for 5 years woke me up to the dangers of credit loans and since January 2013 (almost 9 years now; 106 months in November 2021) I have not had a single month (NOT ONE MONTH) where I couldn't pay my VISA off in full. I no longer carry a balance that I can't pay off each month in full and I don't pay interest. Face it, when you have card debts and you can't pay it off, you're just making your past purchases more expensive and you're just making the bank richer while you're getting poorer. DON'T CHARGE WHAT YOU DON'T ALREADY HAVE UNLESS IT'S AN EMERGENCY!

    Now that I have my disability income every month, I feel free to spend some of that money, but car insurance, gas, plates (I have a November car, and it's now $151 in Illinois) and food my SNAP doesn't cover comes first. Again, even with disability money cominging in every month, I still don't charge the money I don't have given to me. The SSI money that I do get, but don't spend each month, I have to withdraw it from my account (the government requires you to let them know when your account is over $2,000 at any given time), put the cash in my safe and let it build. So far in 6 years among some spending and saving with SSI, I built $20,000 in savings in my safe and in a few months, I plan on going into business with some of that money.

    The point of my story is don't charge what you don't have; save your money when it comes and avoid credit/home/car loans (it'll just cost you more long-term). I went from being in thousands of dollars in the hole I struggled for years to get out of, to now having tens of thousands of dollars of saved up money with smart intentions and no debts.
    I had a similar experience. I got a Visa card with a nice low 6% interest rate thanks to my good credit after having paid off a car loan. At first I didn't charge much, but I had a good-paying job and it was easy to charge something to get it right away, like if I wanted to travel somewhere. It built up, but I kept up on at least the minimum payments. Then one day, I noticed my interest rate was a whopping 21%. They had increased it massively even though I had made every payment. Turns out, some unpaid medical bills had fucked up my credit. These were bills I never charged to that card! They were unexpected bills do to getting sick unexpectedly. So then with a big balance owed and now getting hozed at 21 percent, I lost my good paying job and had to settle for a crappy one. Then it was virtually impossible to pay off the balance or even just make the payments. Then some assholes were suing me for the unpaid medical bills. They'll actually sue you for a huge pile of cash that you DON'T even have.

    So I found a lawyer and declared bankruptcy. It wiped away all the debt, and the dickheads suing me were supposed to drop the lawsuit, but they didn't. So the judge ruled in my favor that they had to drop it, and they also had to pay the court costs.

    But after that, I did things like the OP suggests. If you have a credit card, only use it in an emergency. And an emergency isn't if you really want to go on a trip to Mexico or you see some nice clothes you want or you desire the latest iPhone. If your car breaks down in the middle of nowhere, that's an emergency. Get it towed and fixed, paying on that credit card if necessary. Then pay it off as soon as possible.

    Today I have ZERO credit card debt. Enough years have gone by so that the bankruptcy is no longer destroying my credit.

  20. #20
    Senior Member ResidentEvil7's Avatar
    Join Date
    Jun 2021
    Location
    Suburban Chicago, IL
    Posts
    341
    Reputation
    325
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Should I "get a job" even if I have the option not to?

    I didn't declare bankruptcy to clear my debts. I got out of it with a high credit score of 802 Experian. It's been almost 9 years since the last time I had a monthly card balance and I haven't been through a month I couldn't pay off my card in full since January 2013.

    However, this month is one of my most expensive and it showed. $179.85 for 3 months of car insurance; $151 IL plate renewal; $280.00 on a punching bag set and 2 dumbbells; $113.11 auto-charged Norton Security yearly subscription; and my time with my best friend. Right now I have $619 in the bank and $529.34 will be paid to me next Wednesday from disability. So I should be able to pay the full debts off next week. I didn't know November was going to be THIS bad. Luckily I capitalize on December for Christmas money and gift cards.
    It's a man's world and we need to take it by the throat and make it give us what we desire.


Similar Threads

  1. Replies: 57
    Last Post: November 24, 2021, 7:34 AM
  2. Replies: 5
    Last Post: April 15, 2020, 4:43 AM
  3. Replies: 4
    Last Post: December 24, 2017, 5:31 AM
  4. Replies: 0
    Last Post: September 29, 2015, 9:06 PM
  5. Replies: 12
    Last Post: August 14, 2014, 11:01 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •