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    New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    I have noticed lately a disturbing trend from critics of MGTOW in general by saying that mgtow stop chasing women, but swap it out by chasing money. They argue this is no different and that you are a slave either way.

    I disagree completely and here is why.

    Money is a tool you trade for your time and effort and it has value as you can trade it for goods, entertainment or investment. Women do not have such flexibility and in fact are a drain on money.

    Also money is the golden ticket to earn you more free time as you grow older and also help with any future potential problems. That free time is freed up thanks to money earned when young, and only then you will have time for spiritual pursuits or hobbies, etc.

    Don't buy into the shaming that working hard for money that you will benefit and keep has no value. Plus, if you want to exit the rat race as quickly as possible for an early or easy retirement you should work hard and save your money.

    When you chase money and being debt free that leads to freedom.

    When you chase a woman you end up with misery.

    The crab mentality of trying to pull other men down is very real.

    Acquire currency and watch your spirituality increase because you have so much free time to think about things beyond the material world.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    I agree. I have always seen money as equaling freedom. Anything you want in life will cost you money. Even women!

    Women on the other hand are just a loss.

    As I mentioned in another thread recently though. Anything we do as MGTOW or men in general they will shame. It doesn't make a difference if you are MGTOW, Macho Alpha man, Loverboy or SJW Soy Boy.

    You can bet your life they will shame you.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Bravo bravo, Azure Nomad. Unfortunately it IS all TOO true what you say here. IMHO.

    It's a lot harder to put on the sunglasses that Roddy Piper does in the movie "THEY LIVE" in REAL LIFE than it looks on camera.

    You're beyond awakened. I'd virtually toss a beer to you if I ONLY weren't literally drinking chardonay this morning, ha ha!

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    It is not at all about money, it is about how you spend out most valuable resource: time. Whimyn take all available time through currency, assets and attention. Money allows one to spend time on ones self.

    Whenever I come across yet another shaming tactic, the only possible conclusion I can draw is that fish do need bicycles.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Chasing money, for the sake of money, is what they are talking about as sin. When is enough?
    Chasing money, for the sake of living well, freedom, is not. For money to give one freedom, it will be spent, and used for what it was desighned for.
    Yes, money is nothing more than a tool. If used wisely, will benefit many people, and bring joy to many lives. If hoarded, and protected as the the center of life, well, we all know the end here.

    On the other hand, chasing women can be fun and joyfull too. The problems start when you catch one......or one catches you.
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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Knarley Bob
    On the other hand, chasing women can be fun and joyfull too. The problems start when you catch one......
    Nah, that's "EASY" to overcome. It's called catch and release! My wannabe poetic euphemism for pump and dump.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    I think what pizzes off people so much about MGTOW is the fact that we have options that they never will. Our lifestyle allows us to pursue cash and stack all of it for our self if we want.

    Or we can flip it 180 degrees. Work the minimums required, to live as we wish. Whatever makes us happy.
    That's a tremendous amount of freedom that others just don't have.

    We must be some frustrating SOB's for them.
    "People are always angry at anyone who chooses very individual standards for his life; because of the extraordinary treatment which that man grants to himself, they feel degraded, like ordinary beings."
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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    There are two types of people who say money cant buy happiness.

    1. Those who never had any money.
    2. Those who never learned how to spend their money.

    Forgot where I saw that statement. Does have a ring of truth to it.
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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Pornography, adultery, abortion...

    This society resembles and goes beyond the Biblical cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Let us consider the LGBT acceptance of today, that goes to the extreme of SHAMING heterosexual relationships. Simple sodomy was once cause for God sending a rain of fire...

    And amidst all this, that to any religion is a depravity of the highest order, is there anyone capable of speaking about SIN?????!!!!

    This is laughable. Its a joke, not even shamming.

    Ask anyone talking about such shame about the remaining 99.99% of the Bible they are ignoring.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I have noticed lately a disturbing trend from critics of MGTOW in general by saying that mgtow stop chasing women, but swap it out by chasing money. They argue this is no different and that you are a slave either way.
    Their argument is that both are a chase. A pointless comparison. Certainly they know that the objects of the chase, women or money, are not identical by any definition.

    So they are confusing the chase with the object of the chase and trying to suck you into an argument over it.

    Maybe tell them they are confusing MGTOW with penury. Give them a word to look up in their dictionary. It fucks with their planned choreography for you.

    Then remind them that women are moochers for men's money and their complaint is really based in their frustration that they cannot siphon off money from a MGTOW.

    Hammer that shit right back at them, until they realize you cannot be sucked.

    That's the strategist in me talking.
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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post
    I think what pizzes off people so much about MGTOW is the fact that we have options that they never will. Our lifestyle allows us to pursue cash and stack all of it for our self if we want.

    Or we can flip it 180 degrees. Work the minimums required, to live as we wish. Whatever makes us happy.
    That's a tremendous amount of freedom that others just don't have.

    We must be some frustrating SOB's for them.
    We are everything they say men should be but the problem is they don't mean what they say. That is why we are a threat, we speak our minds and don't want anything from them.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I have noticed lately a disturbing trend from critics of MGTOW in general by saying that mgtow stop chasing women, but swap it out by chasing money. They argue this is no different and that you are a slave either way.

    In a way we are still slaves to society, the capitalist elite. But the big difference is that we are not slaves to women.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Then remind them that women are moochers for men's money and their complaint is really based in their frustration that they cannot siphon off money from a MGTOW.
    There it is in a nutshell.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    Pornography, adultery, abortion...

    This society resembles and goes beyond the Biblical cities of Sodom and Gomorrah.

    Let us consider the LGBT acceptance of today, that goes to the extreme of SHAMING heterosexual relationships. Simple sodomy was once cause for God sending a rain of fire...

    And amidst all this, that to any religion is a depravity of the highest order, is there anyone capable of speaking about SIN?????!!!!
    No, and even within the Christian culture this is a major point of contention. So, lots of lost people stay lost and broken because of too much concern for "valuing differences," kum-ba-yah (however the hell you spell that), and conflict avoidance, and not enough concern for morality and truth.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Chasing money is a sin now? Well, then I'll be a hellbound wretch, smiling all the way down the Broad Road. And laughing at the "pious angels" who will be struggling with student and other debt come the next recession. Won't be long now. Let the hunger games begin...
    Shame is a womans primary weapon. Watch for it, and call it out wherever you see it. Few women know how to handle a man immune to shame.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    It is supposed to be an insult but all I see is the admittance that women leech money away

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Let me add that the comment often comes from other men more often than women. So, when it comes to putting down single men that generate wealth and/or paying down debt ASAP it comes off as being jealous. Plus, the horror stories I heard over the weekend from committed men spending $100+ bucks on flowers and gifts for Venereal Disease Day was a left hook to my face and a wake up call to stay focused on my goals.

    Plus, being in perpetual debt is what everyone thinks is normal but I want to avoid that at all costs.

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    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: New shaming tactic against MGTOW: Chasing money is a sin

    Fuck it, I guess I'm a sinner then. Does this mean that all the women who took everything from men in family/divorce court are going to return the cars, houses, retirement accounts, money, and other assets they stole from men? No? Didn't think so.

    Our REAL sin is not chasing money. It's making money, then keeping it for ourselves, instead of giving it to women. That's what they're really upset about. But the way I see it, it's a free market economy. I trade my considerable skill and labor for money. That money is mine. I earned it for the countless hours I put in doing a job, not to mention the years of my life I spent working my ass off to get a degree; a degree I am still paying for. Everything I have I fucking earned with my blood sweat and tears.

    Once that money is mine, I'm free to do whatever I want with it. I don't have to get married, have kids, or give money to women; I already pay taxes, that's what my taxes are for. On the same token, they are free to go get jobs. They can work for it, just like I did. That's what they said they wanted, after all. Or, they could try being good women, mothers, and housewives. But seeing as how they used their political activism to absolve themselves of that responsibility and walked away from it 50 years ago...well, I doubt they will be going back to that anytime soon.

    Women used to provide some value. Men went out and busted their ass at a job, but in exchange they got to come home and have a loving, caring wife and children who were their own. Now what do men get? Nothing.

    If it was worth it to get married and have children, a lot more men would be doing it. A lot of men would love nothing more than to have those things for themselves. It is women's fault that these are no longer good deals for men. Maybe if they ever change the laws to be fair to men, some men will go back to the plantation, back to the bargaining table. But they don't give a fuck about us, they just want to keep exploiting us. And as long as that trend continues, our numbers will continue to rise at a geometric rate.

    I'm beyond caring at this point. It isn't my fault society is the way it is, I'm just trying to survive and live the best life I can. I stopped caring about all their shaming years ago, and I will never be a sacrificial lamb for them to slaughter. I am worth more than that.


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