Thread: Sex is Overrated

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Sex will never be overrated to me.

Good for you OG, that's just not the way it is for all of us. Masculinity is not a monolith. I've always been active and athletic, butI've also always been more of a quiet, introspective type. Even during my horniest teen years, sex never held that much appeal to me. I knew it was overrated in my case and my sexual career since has confirmed that. It's great you derive so much pleasure from women. For me, it's just not worth all the BS that comes with them. Idk, maybe I just have a lower sex drive, even though my T levels are above average for my age (30s). I'm also circumcised, so maybe it just doesn't feel that great to me. Anyways, I express my masculinity through other things like sports, snowboarding, working out, etc.

Originally Posted by ScottyT

The issue is, indicas and sativa's. Sex after smoking some good bud is what life is about. You gotta bust that nut with a slowed respiratory system which is a game changer instead of having sex sober. Having sex and your not drunk or high is a complete snooze fest after awhile.

I can confirm that this works for little while — at least for me. But good bud isn’t a long term game changer…after smoking 20 or 50 or 100 times and being with the same girl you’ll end up in the same place. For a 2-3 year period I smoked so much that during year 2 and 3 no amount of weed could give me pleasure…in fact it started doing the opposite and made me more and more depressed…borderline psychotic.

I came to the conclusion that life is just something you have to deal with sober…booze and drugs are only temporary escapes.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

I agree about it getting boring after a year or two. In my experience that’s when women wanted to start breaking out the toys…swings, rings, lubes, orating this or that, etc. Some people can convince themselves they have then become kinky and new, but I just saw it as desperation and artificial crap getting in the way. I’m in awe of people who can honestly say sex is satisfying after 4-5+ years with the same person…ESPECIALLY with women who have hit the wall and don’t present themselves the same as the first few years.

What especially got on my nerves is when I’m paying all the bills and doing all the grunt work yet a woman thinks she can lord over me by giving or taking away sex…after a few years when I start seeing it’s all you have to offer I’m turned off. And the more insight I get into how women think the less I want them regardless of how “good” they look.

I don't want them around me. Period. If it isn't business related, I don't want them in my presence. The same goes for basic guys who talk about nothing, but think they're the shit. This is why my social circle is small; I don't have the patience for basic mentality. It's annoying.

I agree with your opinion
The purpose of sex is children
without that its for pleasure
It is legitimately worthless

It really is. Thank God I don't get the urge to have sex either. I am voluntarily celibate and a virgin

Originally Posted by O.G.

I am so grateful I've never felt this way.

I still enjoy feasting on the right woman to this day.

It's been a couple of years since I've had sex now. I don't miss it. As I've become more and more Red Pill I have found increasingly difficult to be attracted to them. Do I look? Sure. Do I like what I see? Sure. But as far as being "Attracted" to them? Nope. I am quickly reminded by how shitty their attitudes are and how it will be up to me to feed and entertain them as well as appease their egos in the hopes they will spread their legs.

I have always needed and wanted more than the basic shit anyway but now I would want even more and it just isn't going to happen which is fine.

Originally Posted by Kryptic

It's been a couple of years since I've had sex now. I don't miss it. As I've become more and more Red Pill I have found increasingly difficult to be attracted to them. Do I look? Sure. Do I like what I see? Sure. But as far as being "Attracted" to them? Nope. I am quickly reminded by how shitty their attitudes are and how it will be up to me to feed and entertain them as well as appease their egos in the hopes they will spread their legs.

I have always needed and wanted more than the basic shit anyway but now I would want even more and it just isn't going to happen which is fine.

Very based,

I am pretty much in the same boat. No matter how good she looks, I always reminded of all the shit I have to go through just for the chance for some half ass sex and nothing else good.

I honestly don't understand why most men in this day and age keep bothering with women.

Same for me. It’s been over a year for me. In addition to all your valid reasons, I’d add that the telling them to go away part is a PITA as well. Even though I’d made it crystal clear there would be no marriage, no cohab, and no “relationship”, they still want to latch on to you for whatever devious plot they have in their mind and can’t take no for an answer.

The last one, after being told I’m done 3 times, literally stood outside my door knocking for over an hour before finally giving up and leaving.

Who needs it??

Is it overrated? I’d say no but for me the drive is easily —perhaps too easily, satisfied. I guess it depends if you care about the physicality of it. In my case I’m almost 100% visually stimulated. I have no need or desire to hook up because of this for obvious reasons. The modern internet has seemingly effectively permanently slaked my thirst. Also, I don’t get the kind of masculine invincibility high —what upthread was called “the beast” from women, but I do get it from things like alpine climbing, skiing or even sometimes just a great work out. I know another kind of relationship is possible, but the likelihood is so damn low that it isn’t worth thinking about it. This is just as much about how Im configured internally as anything else. Women like to talk about their high standards but my experience is the opposite. The ones typically available have had dozens of partners and being next in line is not appealing.

Sex is only over rated with women. Pounding your male buddy's butt is where it's at! LMAO!!!

Originally Posted by pool-boy

Is it overrated? I’d say no but for me the drive is easily —perhaps too easily, satisfied. I guess it depends if you care about the physicality of it. In my case I’m almost 100% visually stimulated. I have no need or desire to hook up because of this for obvious reasons. The modern internet has seemingly effectively permanently slaked my thirst. Also, I don’t get the kind of masculine invincibility high —what upthread was called “the beast” from women, but I do get it from things like alpine climbing, skiing or even sometimes just a great work out. I know another kind of relationship is possible, but the likelihood is so damn low that it isn’t worth thinking about it. This is just as much about how Im configured internally as anything else. Women like to talk about their high standards but my experience is the opposite. The ones typically available have had dozens of partners and being next in line is not appealing.

In two days, I was able to hover the AH-64D Apache in DCS World. I was following trains sideways in perfect unison on my 2nd day. I'm able to hover behind trees and peek up and out and then go back to cover. Sooooooooo cool. Next is mastering the avionics, weapons, tactics, navigation, night flying and countermeasures and then it's off to the battlefield I go. Hellfire missiles - here I come.

Way better than women, in my humble opinion. Incredible feeling of accomplishment. It's from here that I derive my masculine highs.

Originally Posted by MannSplainer

In two days, I was able to hover the AH-64D Apache in DCS World. I was following trains sideways in perfect unison on my 2nd day. I'm able to hover behind trees and peek up and out and then go back to cover. Sooooooooo cool. Next is mastering the avionics, weapons, tactics and then off to the battlefield I go. Hellfire missiles - here I come.

Way better than women, in my humble opinion. Incredible feeling of accomplishment. It is from here that I derive my masculine highs.

See if you can mast bump it, or get stuck in ring vortex and slam the ground with full collective! (see if you can break it)

Originally Posted by mgtower

See if you can mast bump it, or get stuck in ring vortex and slam the ground with full collective! (see if you can break it)

I know, right. Since it's a simulator, part of the fun is crashing into things and breaking stuff, just to see.

Originally Posted by Kryptic

It's been a couple of years since I've had sex now. I don't miss it. As I've become more and more Red Pill I have found increasingly difficult to be attracted to them. Do I look? Sure. Do I like what I see? Sure. But as far as being "Attracted" to them? Nope. I am quickly reminded by how shitty their attitudes are and how it will be up to me to feed and entertain them as well as appease their egos in the hopes they will spread their legs.

I have always needed and wanted more than the basic shit anyway but now I would want even more and it just isn't going to happen which is fine.

Man, it's almost as you've stolen the exact same words from my mind!

I'm also going on a little over 2 years without sex; a voluntary celibacy on my behalf.

Granted, I had a lot to deal with the last couple of years: the stress, anger and borderline depression after my divorce, the COVID lockdowns, a loss of employment which made my income plunder to ZERO for a couple of months, and my mental focus shifting to many personal projects that were nearly forgotten during my married years.

Sure, I still get aroused by the young chics with scant clothing, skin tight yoga pants and falling cleavages (hell, even the over-the-wall fit and sexy cougars in their 40s will draw my attention sometimes!), but when I think about all the "theatrics" that I have to pull just for the possibility of sex, I get exhausted even before I start. From having to spend money on better outfits for myself, finding exciting places to go to, pretending to find her stories interesting and her jokes funny, the little texting games, and so forth. All this with NO guarantee of sex!

And for those lurkers or members who are former Chads, PUAs, Alpha Males or whatever other stupid fucking label you apply to yourselves, and are thinking: "you should do Testo replacement therapy (TRT)" or "you should lift more, brah!", I'll let you know that my T hormone levels are above average for my age, and I do lift 4-5 times a week!

It is not a matter of physical health. Rather, a matter of mental health and self preservation. Or to put it more bluntly: I'm just too tired of all that dating games shit!

I just might give the p4p scenario a try, if eventually my urges override my rationality; but for now, I've got bigger fish to fry!

Originally Posted by Granola Junkie

Man, it's almost as you've stolen the exact same words from my mind!

I'm also going on a little over 2 years without sex; a voluntary celibacy on my behalf.

Granted, I had a lot to deal with the last couple of years: the stress, anger and borderline depression after my divorce, the COVID lockdowns, a loss of employment which made my income plunder to ZERO for a couple of months, and my mental focus shifting to many personal projects that were nearly forgotten during my married years.

Sure, I still get aroused by the young chics with scant clothing, skin tight yoga pants and falling cleavages (hell, even the over-the-wall fit and sexy cougars in their 40s will draw my attention sometimes!), but when I think about all the "theatrics" that I have to pull just for the possibility of sex, I get exhausted even before I start. From having to spend money on better outfits for myself, finding exciting places to go to, pretending to find her stories interesting and her jokes funny, the little texting games, and so forth. All this with NO guarantee of sex!

And for those lurkers or members who are former Chads, PUAs, Alpha Males or whatever other stupid fucking label you apply to yourselves, and are thinking: "you should do Testo replacement therapy (TRT)" or "you should lift more, brah!", I'll let you know that my T hormone levels are above average for my age, and I do lift 4-5 times a week!

It is not a matter of physical health. Rather, a matter of mental health and self preservation. Or to put it more bluntly: I'm just too tired of all that dating games shit!

I just might give the p4p scenario a try, if eventually my urges override my rationality; but for now, I've got bigger fish to fry!

Most of my experiences have been paid for. Here in Australia brothels and escorts are legal. Some experiences can be very good and others not so much. I never pay a lot anyway so I don't necessarily care too much if a session is crap. I looked into the Sugar Baby thing years ago but I think that works better in places like America where prostitution is illegal. Down here it seemed kind of silly having to try and chat and get to know these women when I can just walk into a place and choose a woman of my liking.

Being in a brothel is a complete shift. Even Sugar Babies expect the man to impress them. In a brothel these women are trying hard to get your attention and selection!

And yes, like you I am also just tired of the games. I was tired of it at 17 when I hired an escort instead of bothering and at least back then women were still feminine. I honestly don't know what they are anymore.

Also, something is valuable or special when it is rare or difficult to attain. Sex is neither anymore. Back in the day, it was considered a big thing if a woman even sat with you! Seriously, it was a big deal, same with making out, seeing her naked etc The whole First Base, Second Base thing.

Now it's easy. Forget about your lines and whatever else. If you are willing to play their game you will get laid. That also makes sex over rated or less valuable.

Men should now know that most single women have been on the CC for a long time…especially women up into their 30s and 40s. Loyalty and modesty are no longer valued in today’s society. I was friends with some from HS on social media and read their posts out of sheer curiosity…a lot of them would be hugged up on a new man every 3 months.

Hell, my exes fat sister married at 21 and started having kids…her advice to my ex when she divorced at 28… don’t get in another relationship…“hook up” with a lot of men. This is how women think nowadays. Like real life should mirror Sex and the City.

I'm surprised by some of the opinions here. I reckon regular sex with a variety of women is one of the great pleasures of life.

Originally Posted by Jacko

I'm surprised by some of the opinions here. I reckon regular sex with a variety of women is one of the great pleasures of life.

Why? Each person is unique. Their libido, personal philosophies, risk tolerance, etc. For me, sex hasn't been and isn't enough of a motivator/reward to justify to drama, risk (STD, pregnancies, false accusations, etc) or general annoyance of being intimate with women. Casual hookups were completely unsatisfying and dating/relationships only made me yearn to be alone and single again. That's me. If you love sex, good for you. Just don't be shocked that other guys aren't as into it as you are. Some have had terrible experiences, some have been shunned by women completely, some have low libidos, others could be asexual.

Exactly my situation. I can have woman as I please, but I just have zero energy for all the "theatrics". So much BULLSHIT to get some pointless sex. Just the clean the pipes. Fuck. I derive much, MUCH, more satisfaction of my work and success.

Originally Posted by Toolband89

Why? Each person is unique. Their libido, personal philosophies, risk tolerance, etc. For me, sex hasn't been and isn't enough of a motivator/reward to justify to drama, risk (STD, pregnancies, false accusations, etc) or general annoyance of being intimate with women. Casual hookups were completely unsatisfying and dating/relationships only made me yearn to be alone and single again. That's me. If you love sex, good for you. Just don't be shocked that other guys aren't as into it as you are. Some have had terrible experiences, some have been shunned by women completely, some have low libidos, others could be asexual.

I’m in the same boat. Casual hookups became more scary than pleasurable. An orgasm that lasts a few seconds in exchange for having to lie like I’m interested, spend the time bored out of my mind chatting, worry about pregnancy or STDs…or accusations…the stress of how I get away ASAP and disappear after the orgasm.

And perhaps I still want to carry myself with dignity whereas going through all of the above just makes me feel shame.

And let’s face it — at my age now I’ve had sex thousands of times…I’ve masturbated probably 10x that amount. I grew up during the birth of the internet and porn so I’ve seen every type of female body or “kinky” thing people have ever dreamed up.

Sex just isn’t what it used to be to me. Honestly, that is somewhat of a relief. It basically takes away from women the biggest and perhaps only thing they had to offer me.