Results 1 to 3 of 3
  1. #1
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2022

    Series Review: Mr. Inbetween (2018 - 2021)

    I recently watched this series called Mr. Inbetween. I watched it twice, actually. I hadn’t heard of it before it was recommended to me because I watched something similar. Maybe you have heard of it or seen it. I searched the forum but no one wrote about it before, although I may have missed it.

    I was delighted to discover it because it contains themes that are relevant to MGTOW (not exactly MGTOW, though), which is increasingly difficult to find. Most shows are riding the woke wave with badass women paired with bumbling men. For example, the #1 show on Netflix a few weeks back was Keep Breathing which was about an attractive, joyless female lawyer who hitches a plane ride with two men who end up crashing the plane and who are made to look like absolute pussies compared to her while trying to survive it. Gender issues notwithstanding, the show is garbage, and it has gotten the poor reviews that it deserves. How it made it to number 1 is a mystery to me (lol it is not a mystery). Anyway. Mr. Inbetween at times feels like an ideal reaction to the man-bashing zeitgeist. It's sometimes a way for us to respond as men in this environment, if not a reflection for what things are like for men.

    Just to set up the show in case you haven’t seen it, the series follows Ray Shoesmith, who is a hitman with a heart of gold. The episodes are short and many scenes expose the humdrum, which makes it all the more relatable. Ray plays video games, washes dishes, dresses plainly, has pseudo philosophical/religious discussions with his simpleton friends, and is a little bit whatever, making him a "bloke's bloke." This is in sharp contrast to the chaos all around him.

    The "hitman with a heart of gold" is a bit of a trope; it does have that Dexter et al vibe - but more importantly he is a hitman who values respect above all else. This is what I mean when I say it is an ideal reaction to woke topics.

    Below are a few topics that the show addresses that are relevant to MGTOW or at least men’s issues.

    Ray is in anger management. Someone else in the group is telling a story about how he beat someone’s ass because they were hitting on his girlfriend right in front of him. The girlfriend is attractive and wears very little when she goes out. Ray asks him how many people the girlfriend had slept with. The guy says she slept with 30 or 40 people. Ray says if it’s that many people, what’s another person?

    The moderator of the anger management session interrupts and tells Ray to keep his misogyny to himself. Ray asks what that means, and the moderator says that a misogynist someone who despises women. Below is how that conversation unfolds:

    “I don’t despise women.”

    “Well, from what I’m hearing here, it sounds like like you don’t think very highly of them.”

    “I got a girlfriend. I got a daughter. What are you saying, like, I hate them or something?”

    “Plenty of history’s great misogynists have had daughters and girlfriends, Ray.”

    “Like who?”

    “Like, plenty.”

    “Name one.”

    “I think we should, um, move on.”

    Ray smiles.

    I think in this scene, the moderator can be viewed as an allegory for someone who’s “woke.” A virtue signaler: Ray didn’t say anything that was misogynist. What Ray said seemed pretty reasonable. Based on the evidence, the guy shouldn’t trust his girlfriend.

    But that doesn’t fit the moderator’s readymade values.

    This exchange shows what may be happening with woke culture: if you say anything remotely negative about a woman (not ‘all women’), you’re a misogynist, end of story. Then you have to deal with that scarlet letter to varying degrees depending on the circumstances. In Ray’s case, he smiled because he doesn’t give a fuck and made the almighty woke look pretty stupid.

    This is also what conversations look like with many of the woke. They cannot argue thoughtfully because they’re borrowing a script. But the script ends, and they say, “I think we should, um, move on.”

    A sprinkle or two on top is how the moderator appears. In a previous scene, he has a man bun and sweater. He’s young-ish, handsome, and half-bearded. His posture is effeminate - shoulders a bit slumped, leaning a bit forward in his chair, hands clasped in lap. I bet women love him.

    The Future is Female
    One of Ray’s friends caught his wife fucking a woman. They break up and the two women begin living together. Ray has to go get something from their house for his friend, and the new girlfriend is there. She is wearing a shirt that says “The future is female”. She’s incredibly rude to and suspicious of Ray even though she didn’t know him. When Ray is in the house looking for something, she is watching everything he’s doing closely. Ray calls her out on it and she fires right back. He looks down at her shirt, reads it, begins to walk away, and says lightheartedly, “The future is female, is it?” She proudly but angrily replies “that’s right!” (or something like that) and quickly follows his calm pace.

    This scene is on the one hand not so obviously making fun of the sentiment on the shirt, but on the other hand, it is very obviously making fun of it. I think it’s making fun of it enough to make the point (which is that the statement is pretty silly), but not enough to flag it as ‘misogynist’ on a mainstream platform.

    Intentionally or otherwise, I think this shows how to deal with the caricatures of feminism, SJWs, the woke, etc: be cool. The girl is extremely agitated and paranoid on her high and mighty high, and Ray’s as cool as his big ol’ cucumber. His attitude in that moment was one of mostly indifference with a tinge of derision. Her agitation seems like some kind of overcompensation - emotion-driven premises that lead to ludicrous conclusions.

    On a personal note, it reminds me of this time I was at work and was coming back from lunch. This was like 4 years ago. I tried to open the door for these two women who were probably around 25 or so. One of them chose to open another door for herself and her friend, and I shrugged and said “hmm ok” and she said, “Well I guess we’re just independent.” She laughed awkwardly. I didn’t say anything, and that was probably for the best, but I would have liked to have had Ray’s attitude and said, “yeah I bet” or something like that. The point is that the series gives men a much-needed guidance on dealing with comments like this. In my headspace back then, and maybe even now, I don’t know what women want. Some appreciate the gesture (if you don’t do it, you’re rude) and clearly others don’t. I don’t care either way because I try to be a gray man to avoid a conflict that, if circumstances were to escalate, will not be judged fairly, but it’s like you can’t even go unnoticed. Luckily working from home has become the norm and I don’t have to deal with it as much.


    Simps and Sigmas
    Ray is not MGTOW. He dates a woman through most of the series. [Spoiler alert] she breaks up with him because she was previously in an abusive relationship and was worried that Ray would be this way with her, since Ray has been openly violent in front of her. Later in the series, they see each other and she is pregnant. The viewer doesn’t get a great view of the new husband, but what we do see is that he seems sort of scrawny and elvish.

    Another possible allusion to manosphere terminology and theory is Ray’s ex-wife’s husband. Ray is divorced and the husband of his ex-wife doesn’t get much screen-time either, but I think this lack of screen-time is significant for this character because the wife has a few conflicts with Ray over their daughter, and the husband seems likewise concerned (he is on the porch when Ray picks up his daughter), but does nothing (he remains on the porch with defensive body language).

    Again, I think the series is commenting on MGTOW themes: The girlfriend says something like the following to Ray: “You have a darkness in you. At first that is what attracted me to you, but now it scares me.” Next time we see her, she’s pregnant, and the dude she’s with appears to be a hobbit (admittedly it’s really hard to see him, but they put thought in to what they showed, and it does not look like a normal guy, or an alpha - he appears to be physically weak. It may also be significant that he did not get out of the car when his girlfriend/wife is obviously nervously chatting with someone who has a somewhat threatening presence like Ray’s).

    This is reminiscent of the trend spelled out in the manosphere that women go after the bad boy until they’re ready to settle down with the beta simp. But what’s also interesting about this is that Ray’s not alpha. I think without the emergence of the term ‘sigma’, he’d be difficult to characterize, but sigma is what he clearly is. He may have even been written to be sigma, but I’m not sure when that term actually emerged. He wouldn’t have beaten his girlfriend (in anger management, he makes fun of at least two of the men in the room who admitted to doing this), but he still paid the price. He doesn’t chase women - in the the two romantic encounters he has in the entire series, they are drawn to his calm darkness (he says, “I don’t really get nervous” to one of them).

    Final Thoughts
    Although Ray’s not MGTOW, there are clear MGTOW-adjacent themes that I think are important and refreshing to see on a mainstream platform. (FX on Hulu.) In some ways, it’s impossible to avoid programming, even without TV or radio. If you live in any society at all, there will be heroes that embody values to which others aspire. These days, I’m not seeing many characters that I aspire to be or who represent my values. Aside from all the murder and attempts to be in relationships, Ray is and does. He's an everyday guy using the north star of respect to navigate a chaotic world seemingly caused by alphas who want you to bow down for the sake of bowing down, beta simps who regurgitate nonsense as Truth, and women who ultimately prefer such beta simps.

    If you have seen the series, I'd enjoy hearing your thoughts on it generally or your thoughts on my analysis of it. If you haven't seen it, hopefully my short description of the events and subsequent analysis is enough to prompt some thoughts. At the very least though, if you haven't seen it, you might want to check it out.

  2. #2
    Senior Member UnKnownSurviving's Avatar
    Join Date
    Dec 2021

    Re: Series Review: Mr. Inbetween (2018 - 2021)

    I actually heard of it, and saved it on my Amazon wishlist. I saw a trailer of that show, and it looks goods. It does appear bit mgtow-themes, to me, though. Which is why I saved it on my Amazon wishlist.

    I agree. Most of the Hollywood's and the world's want to create feminist/beta themes, and none of the macho-violent masculinity that men mostly crave. I mean, that's what I want, because I'm a fucking man, and I crave some sort of violence to at least solve problems. Not that I support violence outright, but we need to use it correctly in the world. People tend to stay away from a violent man and they respect him from a distance.

    That's something that men wants to see, and it is a market for men worldwide. Nowsadays, Hollywood is fucking putting out feminists-beta shows out there, and they intends to target women. Have you notice they avoid targeting men as an audience??? Holy fuck. They are intently putting down men, because, what and why? It's because men are positive re-enforcement for society, and as a society as whole. So Hollywood is supporting women and feminist empowerment, but avoids men altogether.

    That's why I'm working on filmmaking myself, and I'm looking for MGTOW Christian/MGTOWs to do film making with me. There's an idea of macho-masculinity that could be in the market for men worldwide. There's a need for it, anyway.

  3. #3

    Re: Series Review: Mr. Inbetween (2018 - 2021)

    @meursault: Thanks for informing us about this show - I did not know it (but I'll definitely watch it, now).

    Any other suggestions from forum members most welcome - as we all know, it's impossible to watch most series these days without eventually feeling the urge to... vomit.

    My own meta-recommendation is that of a Youtube channel: "The Critical Drinker". He reviews movies, and absolutely destroys the ones that carry "THE MESSAGE" (see his videos and you'll understand what "the message" is about pretty quickly). He is basically sharing most of our views on the subject.

Similar Threads

  1. Christmas 2021
    By ResidentEvil7 in forum Random (Non-MGTOW subjects)
    Replies: 7
    Last Post: December 25, 2021, 2:14 PM
  2. Escape From New York 2021 - Movie Becoming Reality?
    By CPRA in forum Random (Non-MGTOW subjects)
    Replies: 2
    Last Post: August 25, 2021, 4:37 PM
  3. Drawn in 1992 and 2009, very relevant in 2021
    By sam luis obispo in forum Lounge
    Replies: 3
    Last Post: February 13, 2021, 10:13 PM
  4. Replies: 11
    Last Post: August 13, 2018, 10:38 PM
  5. To Do List for 2018
    By Insidious_Sid in forum Lounge
    Replies: 6
    Last Post: January 4, 2018, 3:55 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts