Page 5 of 5 FirstFirst 12345
Results 81 to 85 of 85
  1. #81
    Senior Member mgtower's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Location
    Dead body politic, deceased corporate corpse.
    Posts
    1,984
    Reputation
    8861
    Type
    Ghosted by law and order.

    Re: A Sense of Fair Play

    Quote Originally Posted by Joetech View Post
    We won lots of battles in Viet Nam, then we lost the war.
    Correction! "They" lost the war! Hanoi should have been flattened! Politics fed that war a steady stream of bodies when there should have been a steady stream of B-52s carpeting the north with rubble!

    Soviet arms shipments were delivered at port in plain sight! Should have flattened them too!
    As men, we all got the shitty end of the stick, the only difference? MGTOW will not lick it, we stick it back where it came from.

  2. #82
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    199
    Reputation
    1046

    Re: A Sense of Fair Play

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post

    The herd mentality while being perfectly natural, birds of a feather etc., can very quickly become oppressive. What is happening today on many social media platforms (facefuck, twatter etc.) is the perfect example.
    Bingo.

    It is also far worse because back in the day you had to really give a shit about something in a major way as protesting and activism involved dragging your ass out into the cold after a long days hard work not just sitting in a comfy chair typing away. Persecuting heretics has never been so easy...

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    To continue RKSPSM's analogy a single Hindu in a christian society would probably forego most of their traditions in order to be accepted and would be very tolerant of the wishes of the majority even if seeing them as oppressive. Put that same person in a large community of Hindus, albeit still a minority and they will instantly change their stance and over time will become more demanding that the majority adjust to the minority rather than the other way around.
    Maybe although Hinduism is perhaps a poor choice due to it being a creation from a vast multitude of identities, faiths, overlapping allegiances to family, caste, linguistic group, region and devotional sects where both snakes and the ultimate reality of the universe were worshiped in the same region, sometimes by the same person. Religion in India (that we now call Hinduism) rarely demanded, as it did with many Muslims or Christians, adherence to a set of theological ideas prescribed by a single prophet, book or authority.

    Even the word Hindu has a Non-Hindu origin and was first used by the ancient Persians to refer to the people living near the River Indus (Sindhu in Sanskrit). It then became a convenient shorthand for the rulers of India; it defined those who were not Muslims or Christians.
    So its not entirely inaccurate to say that Hinduism was at least in part a 19th-century British invention created because to a people from the highly organized and uniform society it was impossible to resist the urge to fix a single identity to the diverse communities and faiths in which most Indians lived at the time (and still do).

    Hardly surprising then that they tend to do well over here.

    Islam however is doing exactly what you describe and due to having a minority status we have seen multiple government led cover ups of horrific crimes in some cases over periods decades long, a entire local government had to be replaced in one case involving the decades long rape and sexual abuse of thousands of children some of the girls as young as 11 all covered up because the police and officials were afraid of being called racist. It has since been discovered that a huge number of towns and cities in the UK have had the same thing going on again for decades but its rarely brought up and after saying they would do a full investigation into the issue the UK government outright REFUSED to release the the results of the investigation saying releasing the results would "not be in the public interest...."
    "Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything ó you canít conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him."

    -Robert A. Heinlein.

  3. #83
    Senior Member rkspsm's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Delhi, India
    Posts
    471
    Reputation
    1275
    Type
    Poltergeist

    Re: A Sense of Fair Play

    Quote Originally Posted by ian2211 View Post
    Maybe although Hinduism is perhaps a poor choice...
    Yeah, hindus are mostly, atleast the ones I know, are very tolerant towards other cultures and religions. But this is often a result of a different fault they have. And that is, they tend to be lazy, careless, negligent. I am definitely not saying that all of them are this type, I am merely pointing out that hindus do have a problem with their culture to be vary about, and it may not be as obvious as some other more violent and aggressive religions. They will tend to do subpar work, wont put much effort into anything serious or too complex, and will still demand that they be paid for the "hard work" they did... which is putting up with their employer.

    Yes, there might be some personal bias in here and may sound like a little rant, because I do have to put up with them. Not as an employer or boss, as I hate being in that position, but I've been a colleague to many of them. Its extremely frustating to listen to a stream of never ending excuses to delay work or avoid the most trivial things which can be solved with few minutes of proper attention to detail. Its for that reason, that I mostly work alone. If you dont believe what I am saying, try dealing with a regular indian IT firm and you will know...

    And this is very bad if you mix them with a culture, that otherwise values hard work. You will seriously degrade the morale of any hard and honest worker, and it will have a chain reaction effect on the whole group.
    "Truth is enough." - Curt Doolittle
    "Truth, and violence to enforce it." - Eli Harman

  4. #84
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jan 2015
    Location
    UK
    Posts
    199
    Reputation
    1046

    Re: A Sense of Fair Play

    LOL it sounds like you have a rough time of it with the home grown chaps.

    We must have nicked the cream of the crop then as in the UK Hindu men are more likely than the general population to be entrepreneurs, and both Hindu men and women are more likely than the general population to have higher education. According to United Kingdom's Office of National Statistics, of all ethnic minorities in Britain, the British Hindus had the highest rate of economic activity in 2011 British Hindus also had the third lowest poverty level (after British Christian and British Jews), and the second lowest rates of arrest, trial or imprisonment at 0.5% (after British Jews' 0.3%) among all ethnic groups tracked by UK's Ministry of Justice.

    My experiences with them are indistinguishable from my experiences with any other Brit in all but one area, they fucking LOVE to haggle although that maybe a Indian trait rather than a Hindu one but holy crap it borders being a art form the way they do it.
    "Mighty little force is needed to control a man whose mind has been hoodwinked; contrariwise, no amount of force can control a free man, a man whose mind is free. No, not the rack, not fission bombs, not anything ó you canít conquer a free man; the most you can do is kill him."

    -Robert A. Heinlein.

  5. #85
    Senior Member rkspsm's Avatar
    Join Date
    May 2019
    Location
    Delhi, India
    Posts
    471
    Reputation
    1275
    Type
    Poltergeist

    Re: A Sense of Fair Play

    Quote Originally Posted by ian2211 View Post
    LOL it sounds like you have a rough time of it with the home grown chaps.

    We must have nicked the cream of the crop then as in the UK Hindu men are more likely than the general population to be entrepreneurs, and both Hindu men and women are more likely than the general population to have higher education.
    Yeah its very much possible that I may have bad experience with the "trash" left behind lol. Though, when it comes to entrepreneurship and getting education, they do fine here too. I was mainly talking, which I think its fair to mention here, that the perspective was from a very intense technical job. The kind of job where its better you leave your human interaction skills (and definitely haggling skills), behind at home.

    And speaking of haggling yeah, its a culture here. Another one of the things I dont share. I loathe haggling, and thus, very abysmal at it. I was told often by others to try to learn it, but ofc I never bothered. Apparently, I did fine without it, its annoyingly overrated here.
    "Truth is enough." - Curt Doolittle
    "Truth, and violence to enforce it." - Eli Harman


Similar Threads

  1. A fair and balanced system!
    By Jackoff in forum Lounge
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: March 9, 2020, 4:08 PM
  2. Replies: 23
    Last Post: May 20, 2018, 10:09 PM
  3. Turn around is fair play
    By The_Joker in forum Lounge
    Replies: 28
    Last Post: July 3, 2016, 6:43 PM
  4. Replies: 10
    Last Post: November 5, 2015, 12:07 PM
  5. Replies: 2
    Last Post: August 28, 2015, 10:57 AM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •