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    The problem with Self-esteem,

    I recently made a close male friend, he is an ambitious guy and hard working, entrepreneurial.

    To my surprise, I found out he is married even though he is only 26. I thought this was strange since people get married at a later age in these times.

    I thought nothing much of it - just that it was a shame since he probably doesn't know what he is getting himself into. Fast forward a few weeks and I am invited to a BBQ where he and his wife came.

    I met her, and spoke with her for a few hours, she was polite but low IQ, and was ugly. Fat, and not in the right way, belly fat and ugly fat; no curves etc.

    I was still unaware that she was his wife, until we all sat down and the question came up of how they met each other - and I was just astounded!

    Apparently, they are sweetheart romance since secondary school (high school in the US) and they got married as virgins and had no other relationships.

    A few weeks later I meet the guy and tell him that he is a handsome guy and that there are many girls interested in him - at the BBQ there were at least 3/4 girls who was clearly signalling sexual interest.

    Anyway, as I dug deeped into his part - he tells me that he cannot pick up signals from women, and the reason is lack of self esteem. He told me that the reason he works hard is because he believes he is unattractive. The guy is 6ft+, muscular and drive a cool car - owns several businesses and is quite attractive.

    Just wanted to share this story to show people that a lack of self esteem can do a lot of damage - this guy is quite the catch settled for an overweight, flat short blubber.
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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    Mumford O'Crowley's little brother!
    It's 1939 allover again, and we're the ones being assigned gold stars!

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Just wanted to share this story to show people that a lack of self esteem can do a lot of damage - this guy is quite the catch settled for an overweight, flat short blubber.
    First, while it is pleasing to the eyes (and other parts) to "have" a beautiful wife, it is better to have a "good woman", if such unicorn exists at all.

    Second, in the area of low self-esteem, i think that there is a subversive use of words by society. Saying "low self-esteem" is like saying a car is "low in functioning", instead of simply saying it is BROKEN!

    The problem this man (and many other men) has is that he has been convinced that HE IS WORTHLESS. This is an ongoing psychological attack to anything male, with the objective of exploring them. The self-doubting attitude is conveyed by media and entertainment, and starts as early as childreen...

    "What are little boys made of?
    What are little boys made of?
    Snips and snails
    And puppy-dogsí tails,
    Thatís what little boys are made of.
    What are little girls made of?
    What are little girls made of?
    Sugar and spice
    And everything nice,
    Thatís what little girls are made of"

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    I’m going to have to agree with some of this here. I freaking hate the sugar and spice...blah, blah quote. Society conditions us to believe that BS. I’m teaching my sons that are 14 that is not the case AT ALL! One of them already sees it with his mom (my ex wife) and his older sister. I think he’s getting it.
    That being said, I agree this leads to low self esteem. I believe that is part of why I ended up in my marriage. I’ve had numerous people since divorce say stuff like, “how did you 2 get together?” Or “no offense, but you could have done a lot better”. The thought process 22 years ago was I couldn’t do any better. Big mistake. I should have just kept doing my own thing. But society also tells men in their 20s and 30s that we need to get married. Another thing I’m teaching my sons...never get married. It’s a losing proposition for any male.

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Just wanted to share this story to show people that a lack of self esteem can do a lot of damage - this guy is quite the catch settled for an overweight, flat short blubber.
    Absolutely it can. I’ve seen so many good, decent guys settle for harridans and slags with trailing broods for this very reason.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    This was a very good post Opaque and I can relate to this.

    I have a friend in a similar situation. He was an extremely good looking guy. (He actually kind of looked like Peirce Brosnan) He up and married this disgusting cow who looked about 38 at the time. (She was in her early 20's.)

    My brother and I tried to convince him that he could do way better. He actually got upset with us because he felt we weren't supportive of him.

    They got married and had kids.

    Fast forward a decade later and he looks like he's aged 20 years. They now have an open relationship but are still married. He works his butt off at this software company and gives her most of the money. You know "for the kids". He was on the verge of living out of his car but his 80+ year old parents paid his rent for an entire year.

    What's bad is that he's mildly-autistic and can't see how he's being used. He also has low self-esteem and can't see that he's a catch.

    Lurkers, purple-pillers, and men in general...take head! KNOW YOUR WORTH!
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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    What's bad is that he's mildly-autistic and can't see how he's being used. He also has low self-esteem and can't see that he's a catch.
    Gosh, I feel so sorry for men like, it's truly heart-breaking because I have worked with autistic children and they are so vulnerable to exploitation!

    My heart goes out to your friend.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    Bonobol, instead of suggesting that he could have done better perhaps you and your brother could have taken him to Family Court and let him see and hear what a divorce really looks like. You told him he could do better. I would have told him that there is no better when it comes to marriage. I's a racket and a death sentence for any man these days.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    Low self esteem has plagued my life and led me to bad decisions.
    The problem is that so many of us get screwed when kids. I had a female violent primary school teacher who treated us boys like shits while highly regarding girls. Family didn't help either. My father had eyes only for my sister and mostly scorn for me.
    Anyway that's my background and my outcome hasn't been great on multiple levels but it doesn't have to be like that. If you have sons build their pride with love and appreciation. If you grew up like me try to mend your scars and remember that those idiots out there ain't worth anything more than you even if they pretend to.

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    Quote Originally Posted by Alone View Post
    Low self esteem has plagued my life and led me to bad decisions.
    The problem is that so many of us get screwed when kids. I had a female violent primary school teacher who treated us boys like shits while highly regarding girls. Family didn't help either. My father had eyes only for my sister and mostly scorn for me.
    Anyway that's my background and my outcome hasn't been great on multiple levels but it doesn't have to be like that. If you have sons build their pride with love and appreciation. If you grew up like me try to mend your scars and remember that those idiots out there ain't worth anything more than you even if they pretend to.
    Absolutely. For the most part it’s all pretence. See it for what it is and live your life accordingly.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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    Re: The problem with Self-esteem,

    Quote Originally Posted by Joetech View Post
    Bonobol, instead of suggesting that he could have done better perhaps you and your brother could have taken him to Family Court and let him see and hear what a divorce really looks like. You told him he could do better. I would have told him that there is no better when it comes to marriage. I's a racket and a death sentence for any man these days.
    Yeah at the time, we didn't really know how bad it truly was for men. We just knew, this bitch is fat and ugly as fuck. We knew that he could do better.
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