Thread: Sean Penn: Men in American culture have become wildly feminized

Sean Penn just came under fire for the following quotes...

“I am in the club that believes that men in American culture have become wildly feminized,” the 61-year-old told the UK-based publication in an interview ahead of the UK release of his new film “Flag Day.”

“I don’t think that being a brute or having insensitivity or disrespect for women is anything to do with masculinity, or ever did. But I don’t think that [in order] to be fair to women, we should become them.”

“There are a lot of, I think, cowardly genes that lead to people surrendering their jeans and putting on a skirt,” he told the publication. Furthermore, he noted that the women in his life don’t seem bothered by the patriarchy.

https://nypost.com/2022/01/28/sean-p...o-wear-skirts/

I mean...he's spot on. I remember telling someone that American men are the most pussified group of men in the world today for the mere fact that women rule over men in this society and the west all over. You have to be a completely unaware person not to notice the feminization of men that's been going on for quite some time in this part of the world. In a society ruled by women soon enough you'd see its men constantly defer to its women, and before you know it its males will slowly dawn the identity of its females.



The female energy exists to weaken everything it comes in contact with, not out of strength (in a conventional sense) but out of weakness, inadvertently making weakness is its core strength. It's enough to make one puke to see how women are deferred to and pedestalized in this stinky society. More sickening is how men have allowed the disease that is femininity to infest their male vitality, basically turning them into weaklings that grovel for pussy. Thousand of years of human evolution and accomplishments reduced to facebook and onlyfans.

To quote Dave Sim, "It seems to me that this is part and parcel of women being the silver medallists in the human race. If woman cannot achieve the masculine gold medal, then everyone and everything else as far as the eye can see must be recast as a silver medallist as well." I agree with him even more when he said men must shoulder more than their fair share of the blame for the sorry state of affairs in so many areas of our misguided feminist society.

The 90s are when the feminist education system and indoctrination to create “nu-males” really go started.

And it was literally called nu-males, a feminized more empathic version of males, because man haters simply hate men. They didn’t earn that label for absolutely no reason.

Education became massively rule centric and girl centric, men were drugged into submission to not have masculinity, everything had to be tightly controlled. Anything exercise or energy expending was done away with as much as possible, more focus on arts and humanities and talking all day long about bullshit, and, naturally, your country <insert name here> was "bad" because of "past issues".

You can see it in millennials and kids today, a kind of #limp view of life, a passive aggressive nature, anxiety, fear of confrontation.

This is what your equality wanting feminists want. And like all authoritarian leftists, the propaganda is that they want to raise <group x> to be equal to <group y>, but the reality is, they want all groups smashed down as low as possible. That's why you'll never hear authoritarian leftists talk about confidence (they can only control self-esteem tokens, not real confidence), success, hard work, or really anything at all but "muh equality". Which can only be done by chopping off others at the knees.

Strangely, I notice a massive increase with school shootings and violence since the nu-males were created.

Sure rape massively decreased. Supposedly. But then rape lies took their place because no matter what the fuck women say, being “raped”, like cat-calling, is a Status symbol.

It makes them have sexual “value”.

In their little walnut heads, not being raped, harassed, stalked, whatever makes you valueless.

Like not being able to have kids.

Originally Posted by Hedon

The female energy exists to weaken everything it comes in contact with, not out of strength (in a conventional sense) but out of weakness, inadvertently making weakness is its core strength. It's enough to make one puke to see how women are deferred to and pedestalized in this stinky society. More sickening is how men have allowed the disease that is femininity to infest their male vitality, basically turning them into weaklings that grovel for pussy. Thousand of years of human evolution and accomplishments reduced to facebook and onlyfans.

The feminine consciousness is a weird thing.

When men see a potential threat, we tend to want to avoid it. Put it down to something that goes as far back as the hunter/gatherer days. But we have a strong evasion instinct to potential threats.

It doesn't necessarily work that way for women. Women have a bizarre urge to be attracted to threats and then to somehow subdue or neutralize the threat so as to make it non-threatening.

An interesting Rorschach for this comes in fiction written by feminists. Often (not always) the only "good" and "decent" male characters in those stories are either gay or broadly non-threatening. A passive, soft-spoken, conflict-averse, obedient, submissive mega-beta male, essentially. Now, there's a clear and obvious disconnect there as those same female writers chase the bad boys just as much as you'd expect. They crave the total opposite of the good male characters that they write.

Now, the entire purpose of the pre-feminist Western social order (call it "the patriarchy", if that works better for you) was to minimize and mitigate women's influence on society in general and men in particular. Why? Because women experience an attraction to a strong man... and simultaneously experience an instinct to utterly undermine that man and bring him to his knees.

A fictional example of this is one of the SuperMan movies, where Margo Kidder (MARGO FUCKING KIDDER!!!) cockteases SuperMan into giving up his power for a roll in the hay. I can believe a lot of things. But SuperMan giving up his strength just to fuck Margo gd Kidder is just too much to buy into. Ymmv tho. But me personally, I wouldn't fuck 20-something year old Margo Kidder with a stolen dick, the crazy bitch. But I guess SuperMan would, ugh.

A real world example of this is Meghan Markle cockteasing Harry into giving up his title. All of you should understand that one reason why royal marriages were arranged (back in happier times) was precisely to prevent someone like Meghan Markle marrying someone like Harry. Hell, the king of England abdicating the throne just to chase some American skirt arguably led to World War II.

A hypothetical example of this is my opposition to a female President. Because I can't shake the suspicion that she would smear, say, Vladimir Putin on the campaign trail on the one hand... but on the other hand, fuck his brains out during his first state visit. Or she'd try to anyway. God only knows how that could end.

Fictional or real or hypothetical, the behavior is the same. A woman is attracted to a strong/accomplished man and then she henpecks him into mediocrity and submission. Thus, he's no longer "threatening" to her. That's a woman's natural instinct but it can only happen in a society friendly to feminism.

Originally Posted by OwenWentFullMGTOW

A woman is attracted to a strong/accomplished man and then she henpecks him into mediocrity and submission. Thus, he's no longer "threatening" to her.

And then she dumps him because he's turned into someone she'd never be attracted to. Thus ending one cycle (at the man's financial and emotional expense) and beginning another one.

MGTOW Master Class in progress. I really like you guys. Thanks for all the juicy Red Pills. Yummy yummy.

Couldn't say it better myself. This generation is the softest, saddest, sack of shit, bunch of pussies the world has ever seen.

It's no wonder cuckoldry and tranny-ism is on the rise.

Originally Posted by OwenWentFullMGTOW

The feminine consciousness is a weird thing.

When men see a potential threat, we tend to want to avoid it. Put it down to something that goes as far back as the hunter/gatherer days. But we have a strong evasion instinct to potential threats.

It doesn't necessarily work that way for women. Women have a bizarre urge to be attracted to threats and then to somehow subdue or neutralize the threat so as to make it non-threatening.

An interesting Rorschach for this comes in fiction written by feminists. Often (not always) the only "good" and "decent" male characters in those stories are either gay or broadly non-threatening. A passive, soft-spoken, conflict-averse, obedient, submissive mega-beta male, essentially. Now, there's a clear and obvious disconnect there as those same female writers chase the bad boys just as much as you'd expect. They crave the total opposite of the good male characters that they write.

Now, the entire purpose of the pre-feminist Western social order (call it "the patriarchy", if that works better for you) was to minimize and mitigate women's influence on society in general and men in particular. Why? Because women experience an attraction to a strong man... and simultaneously experience an instinct to utterly undermine that man and bring him to his knees.

A fictional example of this is one of the SuperMan movies, where Margo Kidder (MARGO FUCKING KIDDER!!!) cockteases SuperMan into giving up his power for a roll in the hay. I can believe a lot of things. But SuperMan giving up his strength just to fuck Margo gd Kidder is just too much to buy into. Ymmv tho. But me personally, I wouldn't fuck 20-something year old Margo Kidder with a stolen dick, the crazy bitch. But I guess SuperMan would, ugh.

A real world example of this is Meghan Markle cockteasing Harry into giving up his title. All of you should understand that one reason why royal marriages were arranged (back in happier times) was precisely to prevent someone like Meghan Markle marrying someone like Harry. Hell, the king of England abdicating the throne just to chase some American skirt arguably led to World War II.

A hypothetical example of this is my opposition to a female President. Because I can't shake the suspicion that she would smear, say, Vladimir Putin on the campaign trail on the one hand... but on the other hand, fuck his brains out during his first state visit. Or she'd try to anyway. God only knows how that could end.

Fictional or real or hypothetical, the behavior is the same. A woman is attracted to a strong/accomplished man and then she henpecks him into mediocrity and submission. Thus, he's no longer "threatening" to her. That's a woman's natural instinct but it can only happen in a society friendly to feminism.

You brought up some really good examples. History is littered with feminine energy diluting male vitality and thereby conquering it. From Adam and Eve to Samson and Delilah. Even down to the modern practice of men getting down on one knee to beg for their own enslavement. Women are possessed with this ability to successfully persuade men to give up their power. It's no wonder why women were kept out of monasteries and how every religious sector throughout history pay homage to this feminine energy by simply keeping it out of temples and out of male spaces. A group of boys may be playing peacefully and amicably only for the energy to change once a female is introduced.

And yet he'll support politicians and policies that advance the feminist agenda. Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.

Originally Posted by Toolband89

And yet he'll support politicians and policies that advance the feminist agenda. Some people just can't see the forest for the trees.

What politician doesn't?

Originally Posted by Hedon

What politician doesn't?

Exactly. It's an oligarchy. Of the elites, for the elites.

Originally Posted by Hedon

You brought up some really good examples. History is littered with feminine energy diluting male vitality and thereby conquering it. From Adam and Eve to Samson and Delilah. Even down to the modern practice of men getting down on one knee to beg for their own enslavement. Women are possessed with this ability to successfully persuade men to give up their power. It's no wonder why women were kept out of monasteries and how every religious sector throughout history pay homage to this feminine energy by simply keeping it out of temples and out of male spaces. A group of boys may be playing peacefully and amicably only for the energy to change once a female is introduced.

Dolefully, our pain is their pleasure.

Originally Posted by Character

Dolefully, our pain is their pleasure.

He also said this:

“Sometimes people take their privilege and freedom as a right to be anti-citizen, to be failed citizens,” he said. “Those who will search out the kind of bogus science that would give them legitimacy [when it comes to] not being vaccinated.”

He's half right. I don't think it has anything to do with cowardly genes. It's social engineering. Society has waged a war on masculinity since before I was born. Taking away masculine things and exposure, eliminating masculine role models and encouraging feminine ones. Boys don't know how to be masculine because they're not taught and that's by design. It wasn't a choice that boys made.

Originally Posted by Hedon

You brought up some really good examples. History is littered with feminine energy diluting male vitality and thereby conquering it. From Adam and Eve to Samson and Delilah. Even down to the modern practice of men getting down on one knee to beg for their own enslavement. Women are possessed with this ability to successfully persuade men to give up their power. It's no wonder why women were kept out of monasteries and how every religious sector throughout history pay homage to this feminine energy by simply keeping it out of temples and out of male spaces. A group of boys may be playing peacefully and amicably only for the energy to change once a female is introduced.

I noticed the same dumb shit with guys. As soon as a goofy, stupid Harpie is introduced, he turns into Captain Simp. Fucking pathetic. The lot of them.

Originally Posted by Hedon

Sean Penn just came under fire for the following quotes...

Why I cannot reply without quote anymore? Well, nevermind

Do you guys remember what I wrote at "decline of shounen?
https://www.goingyourownway.com/mgto...31/#post165331



It´s the same issue here. There are almost none millionary, billionary that have high masculine traits and I can bet that their testo is low as well unless they are on roids.

In the 19th century Nietzsche already said "The world is dominated by weak and cowards". Well now in the 21st century this is more than obvious to most of us

Woman don´t need the superior strenght of man anymore, just man´s money. Man don´t need their own strenght anymore, just his money. Do you get now??? Man can live like woman for the first time in human story.

Big cities (where majority of humans live) are a great place to be woman, but a toxic place to be man. No wonder many man want to be woman.

Originally Posted by Hyaku Shiki

He's half right. I don't think it has anything to do with cowardly genes. It's social engineering. Society has waged a war on masculinity since before I was born. Taking away masculine things and exposure, eliminating masculine role models and encouraging feminine ones. Boys don't know how to be masculine because they're not taught and that's by design. It wasn't a choice that boys made.

It´s both, social and female´s nature too.

Strongh, masculine man is demanded just during war period and society want to dispose of them as soon as war is over. By society understand both woman and rich man (that rarely have high masculine traits both mentally and physically).

Sean Penn? Isn't he the guy that played effeminate homosexual Harvey Milk? Yeah thought so.

Going to play Devil's Advocate here. Does Penn himself live up to the idea of Masculine?
What is masculinity?
Why is he upset about modern men being less masculine?
What is he really saying here?

I think he alluded to it. He wants men who will defend his daughter. Who will run into a hail of bullets to save her.

I don't think Penn is actually masculine himself. A "real man" wouldn't hold up a sign protesting about men buying girls. A real man would get off his arse and do something about it. I bet he made Boko Harem shake in their boots.

Originally Posted by Kryptic

The hookers we all know he's hired couldn't be reached for comment.

I like to joke that most men here in Seattle are transgender but don't know it.