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    Question Russia to start criminalizing MGTOWs (?)

    Link: Breaking news from the misandrist hell in Putin's... - Masculist Archive (tumblr.com)

    Not sure if this is true as I cannot read Russian, however the article purportedly claims this:

    >> In short, it became clearer about the systemic tortures of men in prisons, men were forbidden to talk about violations of their rights in the army, attacks on immigrants and gay men continue, supporters of the Putin government want to officially start an anti-male campaign aimed at persuading men to create families and work for wear-and-tear, also they are going to criminalize anti-natalism and ideologies like MGTOW.

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    Re: Russia to start criminalizing MGTOWs (?)

    Russia's population replacement level is 1.6 so I am not surprised they are in a panic if this is true. The thing is if they are going to force men into having kids and raising families that also means they will be forcing women to do the same.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    Russia's population level is 1:6 so I am not surprised they are in a panic if this is true. The thing is if they are going to force men into having kids and raising families that also means they will be forcing women to do the same.
    You mean fertility rate of 1.6? If Russia is panicking, then I'd imagine China which has a lower fertility rate of 1.1-1.3 would be in absolute terror.
    One way in which the they can prop up the population is via opening the doors to migration, but even that has its limits.

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    Re: Russia to start criminalizing MGTOWs (?)

    I can't see any "solution" to reverse declining birth rates to be honest, once you go down that road there is no going back. As soon as having few children becomes the norm for a society people don't want to go back to the massive hardship of raising a large family.

    Financial incentives will do little, likewise trying to ban MGTOW won't work as the herbivore men in Japan went down that road without any prompting from forums like this. Even when a hard line country does this by force such as communist Romania it still doesn't work in the long run. Decree 770 - Wikipedia
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: Russia to start criminalizing MGTOWs (?)

    The more power and authority a nations subverts from men, the more its tyrannies destroy everything from within.

    They'll only bolster their demise as they weaken and destroy masculinity by turning men into children of the state and non stewards of their own fate.

    A man being controlled by the state is like caging an animal and keeping it from its natural and instinctual functions.

    We can gage the degree of masculine destruction when the leader of a nation and the top brass are the ones that belong in a cage.

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    If you have kids in this day and age chances are quite lop-sided that they'll have an even worse life than you, cost of living + inflation constantly going up and up for decades while salaries have remains stagnate, the clown world would make it difficult to properly raise a non-npc fucking drone let alone keeping them safe from the rampant stupidity.

    We already have almost 8 Bill people on this rock, 1 more won't make a difference - imo there's too many as is.
    What kind of life would a person even have, living in a relatively free place, grow up, go to school, get indebt in university and... what? Work 20-40 years at some a boring ass job just so they can retire old and crippled after paying taxes and brining another child to repeat the cycle. How utterly fucking pointless and pathetic, wouldn't be bad if we were like rats but the tedious monotony brings on quite the depressing life when as a species you can start questioning existence and deeper thoughts beyond reproducing like a dumb ape, yet here we are doing nothing special with the highest technological point in history, War is peace, and peace is war comes to mind lol.

    Nothing exciting or important on the horizon as far as I can see, no value in bringing a child into this mundane life - I'm living it and it's not worth repeating the cycle in what is now an even worse world state.

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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsmith79 View Post
    You mean fertility rate of 1.6? If Russia is panicking, then I'd imagine China which has a lower fertility rate of 1.1-1.3 would be in absolute terror.
    One way in which the they can prop up the population is via opening the doors to migration, but even that has its limits.
    Yes that is what I meant. Japan is a good example as well 1.36 and has been low for quite some time. Japan are very much against immigration which is fair enough but it leaves little options in terms of furthering their country. China is also low as you state but with over a 1 billion people it will take some time before the effects of it really kick in.

    The fact there is there is little reason to have kids. They cost money and most people in the West enjoy hobbies and generally having a good time. My impression of Russia is that it would be rough with little support from Govt and poor health care (just my perception, could be very wrong) and people tend not to have kids when times are hard.

    TFR though is dropping everywhere in the world.

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    Re: Russia to start criminalizing MGTOWs (?)

    A Russian defector turned author said even way back when, officers were pressured by the Army to marry. But these officers never had any time off, so "anyone who marries soon lives to regret it," was how he put it. I suppose it's different now, but that's one small reason Russia's birth rate ended up in the toilet.
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    Quote Originally Posted by johnsmith79 View Post
    You mean fertility rate of 1.6? If Russia is panicking, then I'd imagine China which has a lower fertility rate of 1.1-1.3 would be in absolute terror.
    One way in which the they can prop up the population is via opening the doors to migration, but even that has its limits.
    You'd think that China would not run out of Chinese, but with a great shortage of marriageable women, two generations of Chinese men are either going to have to marry abroad or do without.

    And Chinese women do not want to live in the countryside. They know that if they move to the city, a golden vagina becomes a platinum vagina, as they can have their pick of the most prosperous men.

    This hubris has even led to the most "unpatriotic" response by women, and that is the "left-over women," those career women whose parents and government have not been able to convince them to marry.
    These women have taken the "Sex and the City" lifestyle and given it Chinese characteristics. They are too smitten with having careers, living in the cities, and having apartments of their very own, no man is good enough for them.


    Russia is looking at a demographic slide. Russian men are so depressed, they are committing suicide on the installment plan: drinking, smoking, heart disease, car accidents, street fights, etc.

    Also, for two generations, the best and brightest went to Israel. Either to stay - and boost the population of Israel from 2.5 million in 1980, to almost 20 million 40 years later - or to immigrate more easily to the West.
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    Re: Russia to start criminalizing MGTOWs (?)

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    Russia's population replacement level is 1.6 so I am not surprised they are in a panic if this is true. The thing is if they are going to force men into having kids and raising families that also means they will be forcing women to do the same.
    Give us back our sons.

    Restore the legal principle that the children belong to the father - not the mother - and this would right itself within a generation.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Give us back our sons.

    Restore the legal principle that the children belong to the father - not the mother - and this would right itself within a generation.
    Surrogacy (and later on, artificial wombs) should be open to everyone, especially single men. I don't have high hopes for that as women's groups have made it ever harder for single men to obtain children through surrogacy.

    Also, we will have to reverse the 'Tender Years' doctrine, which biases the law to grant custody of children towards women - not likely as it is supported by Feminists.

    If men are allowed to raise their children free from women, they (men) generally equip their children to be strong, responsible and independent adults.
    This is different from the type of 'strong, independent, women' sloganeers who, behind the curtain, relies overwhelmingly on the state, alimony and child-support to be so-called 'independent'.

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    Nothing new under the sun.
    Conservatives and communists are husband and woman, they even fight like husband and woman. Both are enemies, both hate us.

    I find amazing that some brazilianīs mgtow thing that Russia is a great country to live.

    Itīs very easy for guys like Putin deal with woman and make a family. What woman will do? Call the police? Call other man to stop Putin?

    By another hand, your family is just a slaveīs family to the glory of nation (sarcasm).

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    The more power and authority a nations subverts from men, the more its tyrannies destroy everything from within.

    They'll only bolster their demise as they weaken and destroy masculinity by turning men into children of the state and non stewards of their own fate.

    A man being controlled by the state is like caging an animal and keeping it from its natural and instinctual functions.

    We can gage the degree of masculine destruction when the leader of a nation and the top brass are the ones that belong in a cage.

    Rules for thee, not for me. Do as I say, not as I do. These are the telltales of any peoples being governed by tyrants.
    Very thought provoking. The loss of manhood in the modern world and the simps, manginas wanting to be treated like incapable women and children by the state is a much more serious matter than women. Women shouldn't be the main topic of mgtow.

    Quote Originally Posted by JustWannaRetireFk View Post
    If you have kids in this day and age chances are quite lop-sided that they'll have an even worse life than you, cost of living + inflation constantly going up and up for decades while salaries have remains stagnate, the clown world would make it difficult to properly raise a non-npc fucking drone let alone keeping them safe from the rampant stupidity.

    We already have almost 8 Bill people on this rock, 1 more won't make a difference - imo there's too many as is.
    What kind of life would a person even have, living in a relatively free place, grow up, go to school, get indebt in university and... what? Work 20-40 years at some a boring ass job just so they can retire old and crippled after paying taxes and brining another child to repeat the cycle. How utterly fucking pointless and pathetic, wouldn't be bad if we were like rats but the tedious monotony brings on quite the depressing life when as a species you can start questioning existence and deeper thoughts beyond reproducing like a dumb ape, yet here we are doing nothing special with the highest technological point in history, War is peace, and peace is war comes to mind lol.

    Nothing exciting or important on the horizon as far as I can see, no value in bringing a child into this mundane life - I'm living it and it's not worth repeating the cycle in what is now an even worse world state.
    Have kids nowdays verges on psychopathy and narcissism.

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Give us back our sons.

    Restore the legal principle that the children belong to the father - not the mother - and this would right itself within a generation.
    Agree 100%. We should not even talk about abortion since we donīt have legal rights for the child.

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    Re: Russia to start criminalizing MGTOWs (?)



    Found this, Russia has massive population problems not just with current economics but with echo's of the massive population loss during WW2.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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