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    Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    'You can’t make this stuff up. The marriage rate in the United States began steadily falling in the 1980s and has been hovering near record lows in recent years, and much has been written about why this is happening. But now researchers from Cornell University are promoting a shocking new theory that could fundamentally change the nature of the entire debate. According to their new study which was just published in the Journal of Marriage and Family, the primary reason why the U.S. marriage rate has been declining is because there is a “lack of economically-attractive men”.
    In other words, these researchers are saying that a large number of single men out there are simply not “marriage material” because they are not making enough money. It seems very strange that researchers at an Ivy League university would make such a claim in this day and age, butapparently they are quite serious.
    According to the lead author of the study, marriage “is fundamentally an economic transaction”
    “Most American women hope to marry but current shortages of marriageable men—men with a stable job and a good income—make this increasingly difficult, especially in the current gig economy of unstable low-paying service jobs,” said lead author Daniel T. Lichter, PhD, of Cornell University. “Marriage is still based on love, but it also is fundamentally an economic transaction. Many young men today have little to bring to the marriage bargain, especially as young women’s educational levels on average now exceed their male suitors.”
    Is what he is saying actually true? . . .

    Unfortunately, it is becoming more difficult than ever to find a “soulmate”, and families are breaking apart far too easily these days".

    https://www.zerohedge.com/news/2019-...attractive-men
    Comment by Teeter: "The pool of women out there is carrying so much more baggage than ever before. It's a less attractive and more complicated proposition than it was 30 years ago. You can't put it all on the men. The militant feminist crap is a fast trip to a miserable life. "

    Comment: "Fat, nasty, and gold digging is exciting.
    Said no man ever in the history of mankind........."

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    The reality? Many wives are just whores with a license to steal. (From the Divorce Court)"





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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    This is one area of hypergamy theory that is on point. Women often seek a man for their first marriage that is at least at her socio-economic level or higher. Where hypergamy falls apart is that women are willing to blow up a marriage to trade down the socio-economic ladder jumping to another man.

    Basically women go from a cycle of alpha fux-->beta bux-->alpha fux--->beta bux. Alpha fux for their 20's followed by Beta bux in their 30s. Hit the eject button to look for alpha fux in 40's and then snag a beta bux again in 50's and beyond.

    Despite the wall women still employ an alpha fux/beta bux strategy well beyond their 30s and well into their 60s.

    Of course, if most western men would understand this most women hitting the wall in their 30s would not go through such cycles well past their prime.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    I remember feminism being explained to me as a kid (by my older feminist sister) as focused on getting educations and jobs for women so they could 'earn their own money and not have to get it from a man...'.

    40 years later, women with educations and jobs are bitching that they can't find a man with enough money...

    My older sister is in her 60's, post wall, divorced and alone for decades.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Women are biologically hard wired to marry up. Having a successfull career and earning money won't overwrite this so the more she earns the smaller the pool of men who are "above her" becomes.

    The post wall career woman looking to marry up and settle down during the last few years of her fertile window has a bit of a shock when these target men her own age are dating younger hotter women.

    Unfortunately "I’m smart, successful, and independent” does not equal "young, beautiful, and fertile"

    I did read somewhere that if a woman marries a man who earns less than her she is 50% more likely to divorce him, (as if the odds weren't high enough anyway).

    So much for being able to have it all...…….

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Marriage is purely a financial transaction.

    Women are smart and shrewd enough to employ the alpha fux/beta but strategy. And what's wrong with it? Men could do the same, if they rid themselves of the illusion that one day, when I am stronger and richer and have more influence I too will get a chaste bride who is loyal and compassionate, and good looking.

    Thank fuck for the internet, because my fucking mother didn't teach me this shit.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Marriage is purely a financial transaction.

    Women are smart and shrewd enough to employ the alpha fux/beta but strategy. And what's wrong with it? Men could do the same, if they rid themselves of the illusion that one day, when I am stronger and richer and have more influence I too will get a chaste bride who is loyal and compassionate, and good looking.

    Thank fuck for the internet, because my fucking mother didn't teach me this shit.
    Of course she didn't, because it would mark her as a gender traitor in the mind of the wimminz hive.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Rush talked yesterday about the study referenced by CPRA.

    Several months ago on Youtube I saw a video of Japanese women who were describing who they'd marry. In most cases, income was the primary factor. He had to make a minimum, and each woman was unashamedly forthright in saying exactly what that number was.

    As time goes on, I see more and more men avoiding marriage because they're starting to realize that, for women, it really is all about money, both during the marriage and after the probable divorce. Men are beginning to understand that they can actually live better lives single on $40K per year (not to mention save more money for retirement) than they can married and then divorced on $200K per year. Not just that, but the emotional burdens are comparatively nonexistent.

    In short, men are beginning to place higher and higher value on the concept of "no surprises."

    Anyway, from my local interactions with other men, it seems like those factors are important to them.

    Also, the big kahuna is that women have been giving it away for free for over half a century. Men don't need to be rocket scientists to understand that the added value marriages bring to their tables is marginal at best, and in most cases highly negative. That's if they wish to associate with women at all, which is becoming more and more dangerous.

    So, there could be some smoke in the survey. I would need to examine its methodology. The findings are presented as "I can't find a man who makes enough money," but the truth may be closer to "I can't find a guy and I can't possibly be the problem so we'll go with 'He's not worthy of me.'" Because the truth would mean having to look in the mirror to find the real cause. Too uncomfortable, and after all, it's all about feelings, innit?

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    I has been, and always will be, "MEN'S FAULT". Women are perfectly suited for marriage/government and need no guidance or self improvement.

    I'll sit this one out! FOREVER!

    It can't be from their despicable actions and intentions could it?

    It can't be the money, no matter how wealthy a guy is, they're always subject to the same divorce rape as his impoverished peers.

    All female think leads back to females ambiguous fickle nature.

    I'm so glad I smoked the whole idea of any happiness can be found in women. I'd rather chew and swallow a pack of Guirlette razor blades!

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    First the women wanted traditionally male jobs. Then, they wanted equal pay. Then they ALL told us that what we earn isn't why they love us. It should be alright for her to make more than you. Now, this. Are you paying attention you young guys? This IS hamster logic.
    "Don't follow in my footsteps. I stepped in something."

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    “Marriage is still based on love, but it also is fundamentally an economic transaction.”
    Translation: Marriage is based on a man’s love, and the woman is fundamentally a prostitute.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Good, the less women are married the more fvck buddies I can get with zero investment and running away right after.

    #enjoythedecline

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    Good, the less women are married the more fvck buddies I can get with zero investment and running away right after.

    #enjoythedecline
    Nice!

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    I'm shocked, what a game changing study. What are the solutions? Erm... let me see... geez... hmm...


    IF YOU DON'T KNOW BY NOW, GOD HELP YOU SON.

    (NB: JUST DON'T GET FUCKING MARRIED, OKAY!)

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Note how it is written that marriage is about 'love' but marriage rates are down because OF MEN'S FAULT. They simply aren't economically attractive enough! How dare these men! It is all your fault!

    It is never women's fault.

    Oh, and it is all enveloped in that marriage is about 'love'. A woman's love is the same as a politician's love, they love people they have power over and where they get cashflow from..
    They intentionally say what we 'ought' to do instead of what we could do. For if the lion discovers his own strength, he will become uncontrollable.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Of course marriage is based on love. Love of what, is the question.
    A man loves his woman. His woman loves HIS money. Quite simple, really.....
    As soon as she says "I do", she don't
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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    It seems very strange that researchers at an Ivy League university would make such a claim in this day and age,
    Shame on them! Whether or not what they are saying is true is quite irrelevant.
    Is what he is saying actually true?
    I may be a bit old-fashioned, but to me getting married should be all about love.
    For women, marriage has never been about love. Read some Jane Austen.

    Actually, its subtler than that. Marriage is about "love", but for women, "love" has always been about money, provision, safety. "Love" is that warm safe feeling of being provided for, cared for, and protected. That's what love *is*. So yes, marriage is about love; and yes, it's about the money.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    I have no idea whether I'd be considered "economically attractive" enough for most women, but I do make a six-figure income and am in the 95th percentile of income in the US. So maybe I can offer some perspective.

    There is one very simple reason I will never marry; I have a basic grasp of divorce statistics, and I understand how divorce and family court systems operate. I think there are lots of other guys like me out there who have wealth and assets to protect, and do not want to risk getting divorce-raped and losing it all. I worked hard to get where I am today, and I still have a lot of goals I want to accomplish in my life. Marriage is simply financial suicide, the most surefire way to kill my dreams forever that I spent my whole life working towards.

    Of course even if they changed the laws to be more fair to men, it still wouldn't fix the problem of finding a marriage-worthy woman. It's damn near impossible to even find them anymore, let alone date them, let alone marry them. There's no shortage of 30+ post-wall cunts who wanna get with me, but I have absolutely no interest in dating them. Most of them are fat, ugly, have bastard children, STD's, ugly tattoos all over them, drug and alcohol addiction, loads of debt, the list goes on. I don't even want to bang them, let alone marry them. I get off more on snubbing them and rejecting their advances than I could ever get from their disgusting bodies.

    Frankly, I prefer sex dolls exclusively over real women now. I never in a million years imagined I'd say something like that, and mean it...but frankly, that's how shitty the overall quality of western women has become. They lose out to inanimate objects. All I want now is to be left alone and stay far away from them, and enjoy the rest of my life in peace. Which as it turns out, is still pretty awesome even without women in it.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    No real gold digger would consider me worth the effort. But there's apartments and trailer parks full of granny's who think I'm a real catch. So don't think being poor will keep them off your back. It's all relative. Unless your homeless, somebody thinks your economically attractive.

    Not working out too good, is it honey?
    Every day I make the world a little bit worse.

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    Re: Researchers Blame Marriage Rate Decline On A "Lack Of Economically-Attractive Men"

    Meh.. I like what Frog has said. I am in a similar situation. I am overweight, work an average job and make above average salary.
    I have a pretty active social life, go out and and meet plenty of women.

    And no I don't have 'confidence issues' and yes I do consider myself charming and well dressed.

    In the western world, women have more options and that means they won't 'settle' for less. It's like asking me to take a lower wage, work more hours and worse conditions.

    This is how the modern western woman views the modern western man.

    You need to be some mythical alpha, otherwise they scurry off as if you're the plague.

    And economics won't do jack shit. Plenty of females in this part of England make £2000/month because they have this or that mental health issue or on drugs of some sort. That is already above average wage in London (if you consider taxation etc).

    Unless you own a Yacht, have a private island, 6ft+ and 10inch+ penis; she won't be into you.

    Life is 'straightforward' nowadays. There were times when people used to like romance, seduction, and mystery - well fuck me it's over. Maybe this isn't such a bad thing for men?


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