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    Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    In Ontario, Canada.

    “Lack of a shared residence is not determinative of the issue of cohabitation. There are many cases in which courts have found cohabitation where the parties stayed together only intermittently.”

    First, the "humorous" write-up, followed by the source article:


    Sometimes, you just can’t win — like when you’re ordered to pay hundreds of thousands of dollars a year in spousal support.

    And like when you’ve not been married to the recipient, lived with them, or shared any children.

    Just ask Michael Latner — he should know.

    As reported by the National Post, Michael dated List Climans for 14 years.

    When they began, he was a divorced dad of three and she was a separated mom of two. Throughout their near-decade-and-a-half courtship, they resided in separate homes.

    However, they’d stay over at one another’s places.

    And they vacationed together as Michael — a reported multi-millionaire in Toronto — showered her with gifts.

    One such nifty nugget: a 7.5-carat diamond ring.

    Beyond that, List got lobbed “thousands of dollars each month (and) a credit card.”

    He even paid off her mortgage.

    Not bad work if you can get it, and she did — so she quit her job.

    Even so, they never shared bank accounts or property, and they never had kids.

    As noted by The Daily Wire, Michael did in fact propose — multiple times.

    But his lover wasn’t lured, on account of the marriage contract he required her to sign.

    Eventually, the pair went their separate ways.

    However, List wanted something to remember him by — like a bunch of cash.

    She went to court to gain legal recognition as his wife, at which point she could receive spousal support.

    Michael argued the ambitious ex was his “travel companion and girlfriend, nothing more.”

    After eight days of argument, Superior Court Justice Sharon Shore ruled the duo had been wrapped up in wedded bliss — so Michael’d have to fork over $53,077 per month for…ever.

    Or, as the Post put it, “indefinitely.”

    On appeal, Mike was cut some slack: He’d only have to load List with lots of loot for a decade.

    That’s $53,077 x 12 x 10 = $6,369,240.

    Hey — that’s the same amount they spent here:





    Except Steve Austin got to be snatched from death and transformed into a superhuman, whereas Michael just gets to not date a woman and give her lots of money after he dated a woman and gave her lots of money.

    Potato, puh-tah-toe.

    The Appel Court pointed out, “Lack of a shared residence is not determinative of the issue of cohabitation. There are many cases in which courts have found cohabitation where the parties stayed together only intermittently.”

    Here’s more from the Wire:

    The higher court used Shore’s analysis and concluded she was correct that the couple was considered to have cohabitated even though they weren’t married, didn’t own a home together, and only stayed with each other for part of the year. The Appeal Court did determine that Shore erred when she determined that the couple met the threshold for indefinite spousal support, ruling that the couple didn’t start this “cohabitation” as early in the relationship as Shore ruled.

    Poor Mike — he probably feels listless. Which, of course, he is.

    But congratulations to Ms. Climans: For the next decade, she’ll get to be the Buy-onic Woman.

    Sept 12, 2020 - Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support


    And the original article (newly archived):


    Sept 10, 2020 - Unmarried Ontario couple had no children and no house but man must still pay support, appeal court rules
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    Sleepovers can be dangerous in Canada ..............
    Oddly enough Woody Allen was ahead of his time with this and never allowed Mia to sleep over, it was always sex in hotel rooms.

    I hope my 'step-daughter' doesn't read this case, according to this judgement she could claim we're married.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    Why are MGTOW so obsessed over women and can't stop talking about them?

    Because our wealth and freedom, built on sacrifice and effort can easily be swindled from us without recourse or restitution, then redistributed to persons that would whither and die in the natural course of human events based on ethical and natural law.

    Our domain has been sacrificed for the artificially created need of the many that outweigh the need of the ever shrinking few.

    They walked in numbers and we not only heard their roar, we felt their bite and vicious feeding on all that we are, we've walked away mauled and scared only to return someday, but not as a friend, comforter, or provider, we're returned to our rightful place based on the sovereignty of the individual outweighs the mutual efforts that work to extract and destroy him.

    Men were the foundation of society, the corner stone and keystone, now we're the rug, the footstool, and harnessed through a nefarious justice systems doing business as usual, destroy the men, save the whore.

    They changed the law, the law ground us to dust, now they complain about choking on all the dust they created?

    Full circle is when the sword of natural justice turns around and stabs them the back, the way it did us through the daughters, granddaughters, and great great granddaughters of feminism.

    They've placed themselves in harms way via social collapse and meltdown of the gynocentric state.

    We're seeing the fruits of feminism spawn all around us like weeds in a garden.

    Sometimes living free comes after you're murdered and turn to dust, which to me, defines the definition of a MGTOW ghost, a soul milled to dust in the social factories of feminism that have ran unabated for generations.

    The law is a harpoon, the modern woman is a whaler that uses it to her advantage in any and all situations, it's her 1st response, her salvation and cure-all for everything that upsets her.

    We're just whale-oil waiting for a time and place to happen. Why wouldn't we talk about that? I'm just a source of whale oil to burn in some woman's lantern?
    We are lawfully exiled by the alterations and changes made to this social compact called government, its body politic now cancerous and destructive to its own ends.

    A man is on his own, always was, always will be.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    When under siege you don't talk about how sunny the day is.

    At this point we must keep awareness at red alert because if we can save one man a day we have put in a good days work.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    We talk about women all the time because we are biologically addicted to them. These are our AA meetings. We must continually remind ourselves of what damage the "demon rum" can do if we choose to indulge imprudently.
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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    We talk about women all the time because we are biologically addicted to them. These are our AA meetings. We must continually remind ourselves of what damage the "demon rum" can do if we choose to indulge imprudently.
    I can understand that view point. But like stardusk I can be indifferent and asexual towards the "fairer sex". It is not that I don't have that biological drive but I have never felt a slave to it like a lot of men I see.

    No matter the thirst I wouldn't lower myself to be with a ham planet or a woman that doesn't respect me. That is a boner killer 100% of the time. And I felt this way since a teenager. Of course everyone thought something was wrong with me and I started to convince myself. Then I slowly pieced together the puzzle that I could actually see through all the BS and I was just thinking on a level above what is normal.

    As for Canada and spousal support... .gov is running out of other people's money. The pyramid scheme and scam is running its course.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    I can understand that view point. But like stardusk I can be indifferent and asexual towards the "fairer sex". It is not that I don't have that biological drive but I have never felt a slave to it like a lot of men I see.

    No matter the thirst I wouldn't lower myself to be with a ham planet or a woman that doesn't respect me. That is a boner killer 100% of the time. And I felt this way since a teenager. Of course everyone thought something was wrong with me and I started to convince myself. Then I slowly pieced together the puzzle that I could actually see through all the BS and I was just thinking on a level above what is normal.

    As for Canada and spousal support... .gov is running out of other people's money. The pyramid scheme and scam is running its course.
    Great point, I would also add can't even have a conversation with a woman your age or older who you find attractive without feeling like you lose some intelligence by speaking to her. Because she doesn't care about anything else or what's going on around her. always have their tentacles out to trap any men they can with the courts. I went to visit family last week. Being younger, my mother tells me 'I want you to find a good woman and give me a grandchild.'

    I brought up this case and my mother's response was 'you don't live there.' I pointed still its scary what a woman can do to a man. Crickets from mom when I said that. Women are like snakes, they try to poison and suck men dry with their venom. The governments just want to keep throwing away men. Men built the world and women act like men don't do anything. About this case, it really is a fresh reminder, don't even let a woman ever sleep over as has been pointed out. I'm wondering has Ontario set a precedent throughout Canada for cases similar, I sure hope not. This case is another ultimate nightmare example for men everywhere.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Azure Nomad View Post
    As for Canada and spousal support... .gov is running out of other people's money. The pyramid scheme and scam is running its course.
    Indeed it is as it is in the USA as well. For me it is comforting to not value money as much as some others do. It also helps that my hobbies of bodybuilding and strength training require very little.

    As men living in a dying society, see if you can do without expensive hobbies. If you are perceived as someone with means, you will be a target from the parasites. This is just my opinion of course.
    In the future there will be robots.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    As men living in a dying society, see if you can do without expensive hobbies. If you are perceived as someone with means, you will be a target from the parasites. This is just my opinion of course.
    My hobbies are hiking, cycling, drinking and smoking weed.
    Only the alcohol costs me money, about $3/day.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MrWalton View Post
    My hobbies are hiking, cycling, drinking and smoking weed.
    Only the alcohol costs me money, about $3/day.
    I don't see a cost analyses on the weed?

    Which leads me to believe you should be doing home-brew "too".

    I would if I drank...
    We are lawfully exiled by the alterations and changes made to this social compact called government, its body politic now cancerous and destructive to its own ends.

    A man is on his own, always was, always will be.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    The simple pleasures in life is where it's at. Make sure you have a roof over your head, clothes on your back, and premium food. Anything else is excessive and gluttonous.

    If you are content with your life and what you have, you're rich.
    In the future there will be robots.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I don't see a cost analyses on the weed?
    Which leads me to believe you should be doing home-brew "too".
    I would if I drank...
    This is a shed near me, but there is a danger of going blind.
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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    If alcohol had more octane I'd have one of those in my backyard!
    Wood gasification takes allot of apparatus and I don't need my backyard looking like a Shell refinery with condensers/cooling towers, and enough steel pipe to outfit 3 locomotive engines!
    I actually have all the material for that project which never materialized, yet, pending on elections, and politics, as usual, of course.
    We are lawfully exiled by the alterations and changes made to this social compact called government, its body politic now cancerous and destructive to its own ends.

    A man is on his own, always was, always will be.

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    Quote Originally Posted by pbisque View Post
    These are our AA meetings.
    Yep, this. When critics say "why don't MGTOW just shut up and go away," this is the reason.

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    Re: Man Refrains From Marrying Woman, Owes Millions in Spousal Support

    Quote Originally Posted by MrWalton View Post
    My hobbies are hiking, cycling, drinking and smoking weed.
    Only the alcohol costs me money, about $3/day.
    This a simple life my man, couldn't even imagine if you had a woman around trying to relax. It wouldn't be possible, she would have diarrhea of the mouth about all her problems, that her hamster mind just can never realize, they aren't even issues, but no she'll never want them fixed.


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