Thread: Racism - Let's talk about it.....

I have been having conversations with my daughters lately about racism, as one day I said to one of them something about how the guy driving by our house is the black guy that lives down the road. My daughter said, "That's racist". I was dumbfounded, "How is that racist" I asked. The two of them explained how it is in school (a rural Oklahoma town that is about 75% white, 7% black, and 15% American Indian. Apparently it's racist to use color in any description of someone. I bring this up because I know there are men of all colors on here and would like to know, do you feel saying something like "That black dude over there" or "That white guy in the corner" is racist. No matter how I tried to explain to them the difference between racist and descriptive vernacular, it didn't seem to sink in. Am I wrong here?

Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser

I have been having conversations with my daughters lately about racism, as one day I said to one of them something about how the guy driving by our house is the black guy that lives down the road. My daughter said, "That's racist". I was dumbfounded, "How is that racist" I asked. The two of them explained how it is in school (a rural Oklahoma town that is about 75% white, 7% black, and 15% American Indian. Apparently it's racist to use color in any description of someone. I bring this up because I know there are men of all colors on here and would like to know, do you feel saying something like "That black dude over there" or "That white guy in the corner" is racist. No matter how I tried to explain to them the difference between racist and descriptive vernacular, it didn't seem to sink in. Am I wrong here?

I saw this thread title and thought to myself, "Oh no, let's not talk about it." This can be a touchy topic and not all members read the Principles. But then I read your comment and saw how you nicely set the tone of what you are seeking to discuss. Thank you. I am confident members can address your concerns responsibly.

All this Woke crap is designed to stop communication! Everything now is racist. In the UK if you taste another culture's food and say "Yuck" it's racist. A talk show host got into hot water when he did some game where people have to taste some weird foreign food and people from that culture got all upset because they didn't like their food being made fun of and thought of as gross!

I worked with an Australian born Indian guy who said Indian food stinks and other Indians were calling him racist! It really is crazy now.

Racism now is just another thing to get all upset about and yet no one can clearly explain why. I can go further but it will probably get too political.

So in short, no, it's not racist to use descriptions. I do so at work all the time as my job entails reporting incidents to the Police. THEY actually ask for skin colour and race!

I was raised to follow the Golden Rule. Seemed simple enough. Apparently it's not good enough anymore though, because it's not actively "anti-racist." All I know is the new social rules have made me withdraw even more from society. Easier to just keep entirely to myself and rarely if ever speak to people in public. I can still get accused of racism, sexism, general bias, etc. But I like to think I lower my odds by just not interacting with other people.

Society's super paranoid about "racism". What's new?

Since when is being selective racism? Only a fool would look at an inner city gang of youthful thugs and not be prodigious toward them. Black or white, assholes come in every size shape and yes COLOR. Just because they happen to be black makes them no less a dangerous violent asshole.

You want racism like you never seen? Try being a white Yankee in backwater Kentucky and see how long it takes to be hated as much as black man at a KKK gathering!

They really should try some white on white racism for the full spectrum and flavor of hate driven racism, because that's what racism is! It's HATRED and it knows no bounds including COLOR!

Nowadays it's practically impossible to talk about the real racism that's out there because everything gets conflated with racism.

The worst thing that happened to our country was our melting pot cracked wide open. Just like the liberty bell.

We were known as a place where cultures could blend.

Just like making pea soup. You start out with peas, onions, garlic, carrots, ham, and other seasonings. If done right it takes some slow cooking to break down those individual ingredients and flavors. You get a whole new thing. Pea soup. Not a pot full of individual vegetables, dead set on remaining the same as when they went into the pot. It would now just be a pot of hot vegetables. Not pea soup at all.

I grew up in a huge and diverse city in the 60's. I knew all kinds of people from all kinds of cultures and colors. There is nowhere near the level of hateful racism now, from what I witnessed then. It has taken a long time. However it is a huge difference.

I see all the current hyper sensitivity today as slowing the melting process. Not helping. The cultures I saw picked on as a kid are now main stream. They ended up blending. In a slow process. Over a long period of time. Seems people today find that unacceptable. That slow process.

Originally Posted by O.G.

The worst thing that happened to our country was our melting pot cracked wide open. Just like the liberty bell.

We were known as a place where cultures could blend.

Just like making pea soup. You start out with peas, onions, garlic, carrots, ham, and other seasonings. If done right it takes some slow cooking to break down those individual ingredients and flavors. You get a whole new thing. Pea soup. Not a pot full of individual vegetables, dead set on remaining the same as when they went into the pot. It would now just be a pot of hot vegetables. Not pea soup at all.

I grew up in a huge and diverse city in the 60's. I knew all kinds of people from all kinds of cultures and colors. There is nowhere near the level of hateful racism now, from what I witnessed then. It has taken a long time. However it is a huge difference.

I see all the current hyper sensitivity today as slowing the melting process. Not helping. The cultures I saw picked on as a kid are now main stream. They ended up blending. In a slow process. Over a long period of time. Seems people today find that unacceptable. That slow process.

The worst thing that happened is happening right now! America's reminiscent to a 1918 Sopwith Camel soaked with engine oil and a cracked fuel line spraying flaming gas over the oil saturated canvas covering!

MGTOW: A parachute when you need it most!

Racism has been around since there were differences in humans. At one point it was seen as to keep a linage "clean". I think now they use the racism banner to divide or to divide and conquer. To personally attack someone with actuations of Racism soon draws the person's thoughts away from what he really should be worried about.

Some preacher I used to watch on the Internet named R____ M_______ got off on a rabbit trail once and started talking about Mexican food and how someone told him he didn't like it. Morrison accused him of being biased. Excuse me, but don't people have the right not to eat things they don't like the taste of or that turns their buttholes into diarrhea pressure washer nozzles? What a fucking jerk.

If you look at crime, scholastic and economic statistics, it's tough to believe that we are all created equal, at least intellectually.

Originally Posted by OwenWentFullMGTOW

It's not easy (esp for white people) to know if their behavior is racist. So, here's a useful flowchart we white people can use to determine if our behavior is racist or not.

You're welcome.

In brief, the only non-racist thing a white person can do is die*



* Just make sure your coffin isn't nicer than anyone else's. Because you know what THAT would make you, right?

LMAO yep. There was a saying a while back.

"I'm a proud Asian" said the Asian
"I'm a proud black man" said the black man.
"I'm a proud white man" said the racist.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

Nowadays it's practically impossible to talk about the real racism that's out there because everything gets conflated with racism.

The problem is the real racists are the ones that are getting labelled as racists. And if Western countries are so racist why do so many people want to move there?

Originally Posted by O.G.

The worst thing that happened to our country was our melting pot cracked wide open. Just like the liberty bell.

We were known as a place where cultures could blend.

Just like making pea soup. You start out with peas, onions, garlic, carrots, ham, and other seasonings. If done right it takes some slow cooking to break down those individual ingredients and flavors. You get a whole new thing. Pea soup. Not a pot full of individual vegetables, dead set on remaining the same as when they went into the pot. It would now just be a pot of hot vegetables. Not pea soup at all.

I grew up in a huge and diverse city in the 60's. I knew all kinds of people from all kinds of cultures and colors. There is nowhere near the level of hateful racism now, from what I witnessed then. It has taken a long time. However it is a huge difference.

I see all the current hyper sensitivity today as slowing the melting process. Not helping. The cultures I saw picked on as a kid are now main stream. They ended up blending. In a slow process. Over a long period of time. Seems people today find that unacceptable. That slow process.

Growing up in Australia in the 70's and 80's was like that. It didn't matter what colour or religion you were, we were all just Australian. Now you have all these prefixes "African Australian" "Italian Australian" etc etc How many of these people have even been to their homeland? And how many would even fit in if they did?

It's like African American. Charlize Theron is more African American than your average African American!

Originally Posted by Kryptic

LMAO yep. There was a saying a while back.

"I'm a proud Asian" said the Asian
"I'm a proud black man" said the black man.
"I'm a proud white man" said the racist.

So true. Honestly, there's no way to fully articulate my attitudes about that without coming off like something I'm not. But I get the idea that a lot of white people have noticed essentially the same thing. And they don't appreciate the double-standard.

What is funny is it's usually white liberals/progressives who find stuff like this "racist." If you've been around black folks, not the token black living near you in the burbs, you'd see that blacks generally don't care about being called black just as I'd imagine whites don't bother with being called white. As a matter of fact, most blacks prefer to be referred to as just blacks or African Americans, anything else is unnecessary and too confusing. Besides, it's merely a descriptive term for godsakes. Context matters a lot with this stuff.

It's all gina tingles. Thats all it is. Take a look at last election as an example. Trump was called racist when he spoke facts. Biden has a clear history of outright racism but it was let go.

Just to be the smartass asshole I am, I thought race / color / sexuality / gender was a social construct? I thought I could identify as a homosexual black tranny midget rodeo star from Oklahoma if I wanted to?

PS. If you don't agree with me then you're racist.

Fifty years ago, they decided negro was too Uncle Tom, and wanted to be called black. I got no problem with that. But when did it change, and what do they want to be called now if it did?

Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser

I have been having conversations with my daughters lately about racism, as one day I said to one of them something about how the guy driving by our house is the black guy that lives down the road. My daughter said, "That's racist". I was dumbfounded, "How is that racist" I asked. The two of them explained how it is in school (a rural Oklahoma town that is about 75% white, 7% black, and 15% American Indian. Apparently it's racist to use color in any description of someone. I bring this up because I know there are men of all colors on here and would like to know, do you feel saying something like "That black dude over there" or "That white guy in the corner" is racist. No matter how I tried to explain to them the difference between racist and descriptive vernacular, it didn't seem to sink in. Am I wrong here?

Thought Police!

Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser

I have been having conversations with my daughters lately about racism, as one day I said to one of them something about how the guy driving by our house is the black guy that lives down the road. My daughter said, "That's racist". I was dumbfounded, "How is that racist" I asked. The two of them explained how it is in school (a rural Oklahoma town that is about 75% white, 7% black, and 15% American Indian. Apparently it's racist to use color in any description of someone. I bring this up because I know there are men of all colors on here and would like to know, do you feel saying something like "That black dude over there" or "That white guy in the corner" is racist. No matter how I tried to explain to them the difference between racist and descriptive vernacular, it didn't seem to sink in. Am I wrong here?

Hi again. As you see, people are responding to your post. Maybe reacting to your post. But, are they answering your concern? Are they helping you?

What I see are mostly prerecorded messages.

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Hi again. As you see, people are responding to your post. Maybe reacting to your post. But, are they answering your concern? Are they helping you?

What I see are mostly prerecorded messages.

I think most people agree with what I was telling my daughters, that the term racism has been overused and essentially become weaponized language. Not sure exactly what I was looking for, maybe confirmation that I was correct? I think societal conditioning has gotten white people so scared to say anything. Like you said in your original post here, "It's a sensitive issue". We discuss many sensitive issues on here, I don't see why racism is so taboo.