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    Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    The US has territories that are part of the country, but are not states. Alaska and Hawaii used to be like that before they became states in 1959. Some territories are unlivable such as Johnston Atoll or Wake Island (unless you're in the Navy). Other islands have populations and infrastructure, and as a US citizen, you have every right to move there. This is the case with Guam, Puerto Rico, and the US Virgin Islands. For Puerto Rico, I would have to get massively better at Spanish, but I'm pretty sure Guam and the Virgin Islands are English speaking. It makes me wonder what it would be like to live on a remote island with no winter. I've considered making my financial independence plans include going to live in some place like Guam. It's actually close to Japan than to mainland USA, which would make visits to that country easy. It could be interesting.

    I firmly believe that GYOW includes choosing wherever you want to live. There are options that a lot of people don't ever consider.

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    Re: Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    These are all on my list to investigate more when/if the current pandemic dies down. Especially Puerto Rice and the Virgin Islands since they are close to the USA. The Virgin Islands would be my first choice depending on cost of living but I haven't looked more than perusing google photos of the place.

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    Re: Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    I've been to Puerto Rico a few times. In fact I've traveled all over the island. The place is impoverished for the most part. Many areas are dangerous. Most natives resent mainlanders. Summers and early fall are downright oppressive. Proximity to salt water means everything metal corrodes pretty fast, including auto/truck frames. In most places, utility availability and reliability are sketchy at best. Staples we take for granted here are often in short supply. Lizards and aggressive wild parakeets are everywhere. Crawling insects, too -- huge ones -- and some of them will kill you. Many/most private homes don't even bother with window screens because it's a losing battle. Feral and domesticated cats are about the only natural defense against the larger insects.

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    Re: Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    Quote Originally Posted by kru-kut View Post
    I've been to Puerto Rico a few times. In fact I've traveled all over the island. The place is impoverished for the most part. Many areas are dangerous. Most natives resent mainlanders. Summers and early fall are downright oppressive. Proximity to salt water means everything metal corrodes pretty fast, including auto/truck frames. In most places, utility availability and reliability are sketchy at best. Staples we take for granted here are often in short supply. Lizards and aggressive wild parakeets are everywhere. Crawling insects, too -- huge ones -- and some of them will kill you. Many/most private homes don't even bother with window screens because it's a losing battle. Feral and domesticated cats are about the only natural defense against the larger insects.
    I've been to countries like that! You're better off renting a motor scooter so you can dodge and navigate the potholes for an overall smoother ride! Or a Jeep if you're going far! You won't find one Ford Crown Victoria on those kind of roads, they use them to fill in the potholes!
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    Re: Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    The Army sent me to Panama, was there a year and a half. Though not a territory, it has some of what your looking for.

    I never saw a local with a coat. The only time I was ever cold was in the jungle, and then just before dawn. But the humidity's a bitch in the daytime. You'd sweat walking a hundred yards. Nights are drop dead gorgeous. They got two seasons, rainy and dry. It rains a lot during the wet season, but never all day. Just hard showers, and plenty of them.

    I reckon there's Americans living there, but don't know anything about what the prices or conditions are. It might be worth a look.

    There's a big motorcycle site called adventure riders. People have rode bikes everywhere on the planet you can get except for the south pole. Some riders who have got that far really like South America. Columbia rated high with most of them. While close to the equator, parts are high elevation which would make the weather way less oppressive. In fact, some people think that high elevation, rather in Mexico or further south has by far the best weather, and I would agree with them, though I haven't seen it for myself.

    Some dirt poor island don't sound very good to me.
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    Re: Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    Panama is the place I have considered retirement in. Large US expat community. Another place is Buenos Aires, Argentina. Cost of living is fantastic and lots to do.

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    Re: Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris007 View Post
    Panama is the place I have considered retirement in. Large US expat community. Another place is Buenos Aires, Argentina. Cost of living is fantastic and lots to do.
    A few years back I heard that the Atlantic side was not safe at night anymore. It was kind of a backwater when I was there, everything was old. Panama City on the Pacific side is where most everything is. Or was anyway, I expect it's still that way.

    You could probably get by without speaking Spanish, though not everybody speaks English. I did fine, of course I didn't have to depend on Panama for much. Fifty years back, the locals drove like it was the wild west, it was anything goes. I've heard their not like that anymore, but I have my doubts.
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    Re: Question for other Americans: Would you consider living in a US territory?

    Quote Originally Posted by frog View Post
    A few years back I heard that the Atlantic side was not safe at night anymore. It was kind of a backwater when I was there, everything was old. Panama City on the Pacific side is where most everything is. Or was anyway, I expect it's still that way.

    You could probably get by without speaking Spanish, though not everybody speaks English. I did fine, of course I didn't have to depend on Panama for much. Fifty years back, the locals drove like it was the wild west, it was anything goes. I've heard their not like that anymore, but I have my doubts.
    Everything south of El Paso is fucked.

    Ever wonder why there's no transcontinental highway or railroad connecting North America to South America? Not even a dirt road?

    Could the cause be from US bandanna republicanism? Could it be motivated by the fact it would cut into sea going freight including everything North to South and crisscrossing the coastlines of two continents?

    It's the same reason we lost our electric streetcar and cable car infrastructure, except places like San Francisco where the hills made it impossible for all the busses that ran on Standard oil, rolled on Firestone tires, and built by Henry Ford all collaborating at Ford's hunting retreat. The rest is history, all the cities started choking on the diesel smoke being blown in their face for the profit and enrichment of the elites that conspire for change instead of compete.

    They say guerillas, topography, and other excuses for no north/south corridor, but I tend to be cynical and think it's another billion dollar cock block from the past corralling and careening the free market for short term self gain for the pockets of the elites.

    No different than today's slaughter of mom and pop businesses with people living in the street, thanks to the actions and intentions of dishonest self serving elites.
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