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    Unhappy EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    http://www.armytimes.com/story/milit...ycle/26984151/

    The Army blue-pill leadership has a crisis on its hands - - they have to comply with the mandate to get women into combat arms or risk being disciplined (demotion, career-ending evaluations, or worse) by their Feminist Imperative civilian overlords. How long can they withstand the pressure to bend the rules and ensure that at least one Army woman passes the Ranger course?

    Watch "G.I. Jane" to see how it anticipated this sort of political intervention in military training. It's nothing new: http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Kara_Hultgreen. Sure, it gets people killed, but that's a cost that the U.S. is willing to accept as a "civilized society."

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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    I saw that first hand. I had a female subordinate get fast-tracked for promotion by a bunch of Colonels. They wanted her to succeed, and career success in the CF depended on a tour to Afghanistan. So the higher-ups deployed her to a high-profile job overseas despite my (and others') critical reviews for her performance. Only 4 days into her deployment she shot her brains out with a 9mm Browning.
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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    I saw that first hand. I had a female subordinate get fast-tracked for promotion by a bunch of Colonels. They wanted her to succeed, and career success in the CF depended on a tour to Afghanistan. So the higher-ups deployed her to a high-profile job overseas despite my (and others') critical reviews for her performance. Only 4 days into her deployment she shot her brains out with a 9mm Browning.
    Wow.
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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Chairborne View Post
    I saw that first hand. I had a female subordinate get fast-tracked for promotion by a bunch of Colonels. They wanted her to succeed, and career success in the CF depended on a tour to Afghanistan. So the higher-ups deployed her to a high-profile job overseas despite my (and others') critical reviews for her performance. Only 4 days into her deployment she shot her brains out with a 9mm Browning.
    Guaranteed she understood perfectly well that she was being fast-tracked, that she was unready, that she was carrying an inverted pyramid of expectations on her shoulders. Shit - I couldn't handle that kind of pressure.

    IOW: the problem is not this woman. It's the femplex that made her their victim.

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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    the problem is not this woman. It's the femplex that made her their victim.
    Absolutely that was the case, yes.
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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    I've held off on making a comment on this topic, and I wont contest being banned, and stand by my comment 110% and then some!

    I don't give two fucks weather you agree or approve!

    THIS IS FUCKING DISGUSTING!

    Whatever stupid jackass made these decisions needs to be taken out to a ditch a shot! As a former member of the special operation community I have direct experience with this school and many more. It is a colossal failure of fucking leadership to even consider "allowing" these worthless split tails anywhere near that school. Anyone who was involved in the decision is a fucking retard, and they need to be drawn an quartered and left to die in the god dam desert.

    While I know some of you are military, I don't think many here were actually involved at the level of intensity that SOCOM requires. It IS NOT not for weak kneed losers and fatties who cant get their shit straight. It IS NOT there to coddle your precious feelz or make you special so you can brag about being tough after you get some high speed fucking badge.

    Being part of SOCOM is a FUCKING PRIVILEGE that is EARNED, and IS NOT a god dam social fest or sit in for love struck pussies who wanna whip out some tingle fingers. Most of you are just pouges who do your fucking thing, and some are still chasing pussy, so be it. I don't care what you do with your free time or you think you're some slick dude with a brain. The real deal is those of us who have been to these schools and have done the job are better than you and always will be.

    THAT is what makes being a member of this EXCLUSIVE club something to be proud of, we do shit the rest of world population is to scared and weak to handle. You losers shuffle your fucking feet while staring at the dam floor because you may upset some whiney piss ant who has a fancy sheet of paper on the wall and thinks bottled water is important. That is not the mentality the SOCOM community look for or will pit up with for even a nanosecond. You either have what it takes or it's back of the bus time for you with no chance of recovery. We can smell it on the people we meet, it's an unbearable stench to us!

    All I see when I walk through life is poverty in the soul, I see meek cowardice, and the next meal I intend to devour. We are VICIOUS predators, the real kind that chase you down and tear you limb from limb with glee. We relish the blood splattering all over and rejoice when skulls shatter under our boots!

    That IS NOT the mentality any fucking woman on earth can develop or draw from deep inside. The WARRIOR ETHOS is not fucking negotiable just so these soft little punks can get that biscuit boy strut on. The gravitas, you need to walk in a room and strike absolute terror into everyone DOES NOT come from affirmative action, poorly written placards, and Brasso....

    IT COMES FROM THE KILLING!!

    That's right kiddies, you need to be more than willing, chomping at the bit, all in and running at full tilt ready to crush some ragheads skull with your bare hands, or bury a fucking pencil in their chest just for thrills. You DO NOT acquire that innate desire from pandering to shrews with a chip on their shoulder. You DO NOT learn to unleash the dragon during a slut walk or by dyeing your fucking hair blue before you chase the trendy boy bands.

    IT COMES FROM THE KILLING!!

    The physical, spiritual, emotional and mental strength it takes to navigate broken bones, pleas for help, and the pain in your mates eye as he goes fucking dark in your arms IS NOT something you can buy at K-Mart during a blue light special!!!

    Most of humanity sickens me, the smell of fear and putrid bile they spit out when they open their cock holster is repulsive which is why I work alone and avoid most people. I've done it, I've fucking been there, and we are the ones who made the fucking shirt for all the namby pamby losers to buy.

    Don't like it... To bad ....

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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    Some of us aren't scared of the dark BECAUSE we know YOU are there. Thank you for your service.

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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    T9 is correct about this. Being a member of the one of the Special Forces branch does require a very different mindset than even the average ground pounder. I grew up around a few of these men, these are the men that taught me how to defend myself when I was a kid. This is why I have the attitude of "never surrender, never give up", the idea of giving up just does not exist with these men. It is being able to know your own strengths and use them and being aware of your own weaknesses and overcome them. These are the men that get thrown into situations that most of us, including them never want to be in.

    With that being said T9, thanks for your service. I know that you may leave the war, however the war never really leaves you. I grew up around these men that had only been out of Nam for a few years. I remember watching one guy dig up his front lawn with a K-bar looking for mines. I sat for hours listening to them tell me about what they had seen and done over there. I always did what I could to help them and I did this in many ways, right up to their deaths. Years ago when I had my small IT business I'd give these vets a pretty good discount, I'd charge them cost for the parts and 20% off my rate. However this one Jar head that I grew up around I would often just fix his computers for free. He only had two in his house, however he was on a pretty tight fixed income. So he'd call me up and say "Prisoner, I'm having XYZ problem with this damn computer, can you help", I'd say "sure", then jar head would say "Hey I'm a little broke right now so I can't pay you", I'd tell him that I'd be over in a half hour or so and fix it anyway. Funny thing is I remember a few times I did this, then he'd call me back to do some minor work, normally shit I would have charged him about $35 bucks for or even less. Then he would hand me a hundred after the simple job was done. I'd try and give it back stating that it was too much, that is when jar head would remind me of the freebee's I gave him. To me I really didn't care about the money, as a kid that guy gave me far more than I could ever repay.

    Now I should get back to the main topic which is Women becoming Rangers. Now I'll go against the grain and say that I am not against them trying out for it. However it is no big surprise that these women cannot pass the requirements it takes to be a Ranger. Truthfully I don't care if it is just basic or and advanced course like the Special Forces, if a woman wants to sign up for it she should have to pass the exact same requirements as the men do. If they want you to run 5 miles in 30 minutes then she should have to pass the same test. If you have to do 500 pull ups, then she should also. Now if she can't, then she should be sent walking, just like they would do with any man that can't pass basic or any other school. This bullshit about lowering the standards so women can do it needs to stop. What most people don't understand is that it is not just risking her life, it is risking other soldiers lives as well. This is why when one guy in the squad fucks up they punish everyone. Because in combat that one mistake that one guy makes will expose and risk the lives of everyone. The problem is that if the military were to enforce such a rule there would hardly be any women in the military. This would piss off the feminist that think they are as good or better than men. Any kind of fact that fucks with a feminist reality is greeted with hostel attacks and shaming language.

    This is why I say if the woman wants to be a part of the service, fine. Treat her as an equal and she should have to perform like an equal. The problem is that the average man is just better at certain things than what a woman is, combat is one of these things. Actually just about anything that demands high physical fitness men are usually better at. The fastest runners are men, the highest jumpers, lifting weights, etc. are usually dominated by men. This is why when you hear about a speed record or high jump record they have a men's and a woman's category. However I have completely glossed over something very important that T9 made a major point on. Far beyond being able to pass a basic training or even advanced training. It is that killer instinct that women just do not have. Yes you may be able to find those very few women that can actually pass the training to become a member of the Special Forces, however can she actually go hand to hand with a man trying to kill her? If you look at the movies, one would be lead to believe that a woman can be valuable on the battlefield. However the truth is that I've never seen a woman that has the killer instinct that men have. In my life I have only known one woman that comes close to this, I grew up with her and she was not afraid to fight with the boys. Even with this, she still lacked that drive, she would back off and not finish. Later on as she got older, it was easy to see that she also lacked discipline at a very basic level. Maybe it might be okay for these women to serve in non combatant roles as a paper pusher, nurse or something else. However women do not belong on the front lines. I don't say this because I am worried they might break a nail, I say this because I am worried about the other men out their fighting.
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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    I do so enjoy T0's rants. While I have never been involved with the military, I appreciate what they do and treat the soldiers I encounter with respect.

    That being said: I'm certain I have the capacity to kill. Maybe even enjoy it. It's not because of video games or violence on tv or whatever else. It's just the nature of the beast, I suppose. But believe me when I tell you, I feel that same revulsion when dealing with the general population. Stupid, shallow, weak, preoccupied with trivial matters like celebrity gossip. Our species has such vast, untapped potential...and it's squandered on ass implants, reality television and our good friends the feminists doing studies on why fat women can't get dates. Some days it takes a lot of restraint just to look some of these people in the eyes and keep some semblance of composure.

    Here's hoping these bullshit policies don't cost more good people their lives on the battlefield.

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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by T0000009 View Post
    Whatever stupid jackass made these decisions needs to be taken out to a ditch a shot!
    Or, put more mildly, should face appropriate penalties under military justice for compromising the mission.

    Quote Originally Posted by T0000009 View Post
    Being part of SOCOM is a FUCKING PRIVILEGE that is EARNED
    Even that is not right.

    Here in Oz, at the Australian War memorial, then names of the dead on the wall do not have their rank recorded. Just names. Why? Because they each served their country in whatever capacity they were suited for and paid the ultimate price. There's no shame in not making the cut, if you nevertheless serve your country to your best ability to do so.

    Being an army ranger is not a prize handed out to people for being awesome.

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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Here in Oz, at the Australian War memorial, then names of the dead on the wall do not have their rank recorded. Just names. Why? Because they each served their country in whatever capacity they were suited for and paid the ultimate price. There's no shame in not making the cut, if you nevertheless serve your country to your best ability to do so.

    Being an army ranger is not a prize handed out to people for being awesome.
    No, it's not a prize. It's a job, a tough job for tough grunts. (On a similar note, how does your SASR think of themselves?)

    You are absolutely correct in saying there is no shame in not making the cut. But I will "respectfully submit" that those who DO make the cut have reason to be proud.

    At the end of the fight, though, when they sound the Last Post, we'll honor them all....
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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    The latest plan to get them in...

    http://news.yahoo.com/8-women-fail-r...214600870.html

    Enjoy the decline.

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    Re: EVERY "qualified" female Army Ranger school candidate has failed...how long until they change the standards?

    SECNAV: "First, we're going to make sure there are standards. Second, that they are gender-neutral, and third, that they have something to do with the job," he said.
    Translation: "We're going to cave in to the Femininst Imperative and change the standards, to save our careers."

    Their likely escape path will be the argument that technology has substituted for the need for physical strength and endurance (which, although not true, will be pushed hard).
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