I kinda feel the same about emotional context. And it's why porn or just seeing women look like whores on Tiktok made me draw away from it. I certainly wouldn't want to have sex with attention whore women who basically give any sex appeal they may have away to the world. They are community property. As a younger man sex is all about the physical...as wiser man purely physical stuff starts to get boring. And being a whore myself never really fills any kind of void. I can see why guys go monk.
you're paying them to leave.
Here where I am, prostitution is legal. As in: if two consenting adults decide to have sex because there's an exchange of money, so what? Adults can have sex if they want for whatever reason. The average hooker is a student or a single mother (or both), often operating out of home and declaring the income and claiming tax deductions for having a home office. Yes, there are drug addicts an criminals, but that guaranteed link with organised crime isn't so much a thing over here.
Do they hate their customers? Meh: women hate us anyway. You can get secretly despised for an hour and walk away after you are done; or you can get secretly despised for years on end by a person who prepares your food and owns your children and house.
Did it for years. Spent a considerable chunk of my income on it. I'd own three houses by now if not for booze and hookers. But: that's what I chose.
At this point in my advanced life, discussions about prostitution have become a bit tedious. No disrespect to the OP, but this is how I usually end the discussions about prostitution whenever someone brings it up and asks me about it.
Me: "By prostitution, you mean when a guy pays a girl to have sex with him?"
Questioner: "Yes, that's the standard definition."
Me: "Hmmm, well, I've never done anything illegal. But I'm quite certain that I have paid something every single time I have ever had sex. That price has varied widely, but it has never been zero. The most expensive sex I ever had was with my ex wife. After the divorce, I calculated about what each sexual experience with her had cost me over the 2 years we were married, and it was by far the most expensive sex I ever had. So unless you want to call my ex wife a prostitute, we are going to have to talk about how you define prostitution."
Questioner: "Well, that doesn't count as prostitution."
Me: "But you were just very clear that sex is prostitution when it is exchanged for money. So what disqualifies my ex wife, and every other man's current wife from that definition? We know that women don't generally marry unemployed guys, or guys who make less than they do. And we know that since she is legally entitled to half, but does not earn half, then she is profiting financially from the marriage. So how is this distinguished from prostitution? Is it that she is only being paid by one client/spouse instead of many? I know women who have been married multiple times and profited every time. So that's not going to work. Is it that prostitutes don't pay taxes on their earnings? Since ex wives get money in alimony and divorce settlements that they also do not pay taxes on, that definition is not going to work either.
I just want to know EXACTLY how prostitution is defined, so I can know how many of the women I've had sex with were prostitutes. Looking back on my life now, every woman I've ever slept with expected, and got, dinner and drinks at the very least. Some got gifts. Some got flowers. Some got trips. Ex wife got a car, insurance, trips, free room and board for a couple years. Some got the status, and bragging rights to their friends (because I made more money than their friends boyfriends/husbands).
The bottom line is that all women know that sex has a value to men that is not zero. Though most of them vastly over estimate what the value is, none of them ever give it away for free (at least not to me).
So, if you want my opinion on prostitution, I'm going to need you to define it again, and to do so very clearly, and very specifically. Because right now, by your definition, all the heterosexual sex involving women I've ever seen... is all prostitution".
Questioner: "You sound pretty cynical about women".
Me: "You sound pretty vague about the definition of prostitution".
Very good analogy BP,
If you have followed the thread, you’ve seen that I specifically mentioned that no sex is free anyways i.e. all sex is paid sex! My point is, when my libido is still going, my todger wants to ejaculate a hot load inside of a minge every now and then and I oblige, by paying!
Now, I did not think I would have to mention the health benefits of penis-to-vaginal sex here. It’s there to be found if anyone interested wants to find it. I encourage everyone to get informed about it. It is VERY different from beating off. No pun intended. Everyone can go see it for themselves.
I’ve also clearly mentioned here in this very thread that sex is like taking a good dump for me. I fucking love it but I’m not addicted to it! I really do NOT care if am taking that dump in a paid, public toilet or in the comforts of my own home’s restroom. I just go, “Ahh, what a good dump!”
Furthermore, whenever I take a dump in a paid, public toilet, I do not create/need an emotional context involving the toilet to just take a good shit. I just go, do it, feel good about it, be on my way! Nothing intellectual/romantic going on there!
“Me: "You sound pretty vague about the definition of prostitution"
Let me rephrase the question for you: When, not if, you’re in a good penile health, and can financially afford it, why do you not have sex - assuming you know the difference between penis-vaginal sex and jerking off (health benefits)?
Legal - illegal, moral - immoral, healthy -unhealthy…..SMH!
“Did it for years. Spent a considerable chunk of my income on it. I'd own three houses by now if not for booze and hookers. But: that's what I chose.”
You’re my hero! You wouldn’t have taken those houses with you when you kicked the bucket anyways. BUT, you’d have MEMORIES of those senseless shags going with you - I know I would!
I think this ^^ post should be a sticky! It rings so true on so many levels! I’ve read it 3 times so far, and each time it brings a smile on my face and makes me feel good about the fact that my dollar-to-nut ratio is just $50. And that involves a hot cunt between thighs, not just my right hand!
Last edited by WanderLuster; January 23, 2023 at 11:25 AM.
One can take the opinion that all sex with a woman is prostitution and, like you have pointed out it is a very valid stance to take.
However, most think of prostitution as a once off trade: a set fee for a set scenario.
Herein lies the difference, with romantic relationshits you never know the full price going in and neither do know what it is you are paying for until you get it, or even if you will get any.
This point has been mooted before, by none other than jagr himself, and I remain unconvinced.
Any study I’ve looked at are small studies with a population of 100 or less including the women, the potential benefits to whom are of no interest to me.
There are few physical, measurable benefits that cannot be achieved through exercise.
That leaves emotional benefits evidence of which is provided through attestation of the individuals concerned, all (or at least most) of whom are either married or in relationships or are referring to when they were in relationships.
Yes, for such people there are many emotional benefits to sex – it’s usually an indicator that your relationship is going well at that moment in time and when compared to when it isn’t there is a huge disparity in quality of life for all sorts of reasons.
In short, doing anything that makes you feel good will bring emotional benefits that translate to health benefits, sex IMO is no different in this context than any other activity.