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    Re: Prostitution is a GOOD thing!

    I’ve only been with four pros since I gave up on relationshits and started doing my own thing. One chick was really nice and made it fun, but the others just didn’t feel right. I live in Nevada so my standard operating procedure was to get a hotel room at one of the casinos and call for a “dancer” to be brought to the room. It’s technically still illegal, but most of the security doesn’t seem to mind. I guess they have more important shit to worry about. I’ve only once seen a pro turned away by a security officer as she approached the elevators leading to the rooms. Funny thing was she wasn’t even mine, so some poor bastard’s night definitely didn’t end as he was hoping.

    Then I had heard about some customer who was assaulted in his hotel room. The girl had her protection waiting in the car. They came to the hotel room, beat the piss out of him, and robbed him. I don’t know if this guy picked her up right off the street or if she was from an agency, but that was enough to get me to reconsider. I don’t go with pros anymore. Like other posters have said, it’s just too many risks and not worth it. It all seems like a good idea in the moment. It’s what I call looking at the situation through pussy-colored glasses.

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    Re: Prostitution is a GOOD thing!

    There are too many stories about "pros" bringing friends for violent fun for the john, or simply disappearing themselves with the john's wallet. This is even truer overseas.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanderLuster View Post
    “My feeling on it is that engaging in a transaction with a prostitute has a danger all its own.”

    Such as…..

    Not trying to pull your legs, genuinely curious!

    “I have no negative judgement toward men who do engage in such actions, but having someone come to my house or meeting in a hotel room is a situation rife with risks that I just don't want to take and frankly, can't afford to take.”

    RESPECT!
    I live in an area where prostitution is illegal so every couple of years, a sting operation sticks it to guys trying to solicit hookers and their names and faces are posted all over the local media.
    If someone is coming to my house, there's nothing to stop her boyfriend from using that address to invade my home the next night and steal all my shit.
    If I'm meeting someone at a hotel, a similar kind of "robbery potential" exists.

    I'm sure there are a myriad of ways to mitigate at least some of these risks but I'm just not that interested in trying to out think criminals to get a piece of ass. I don't climb mountains, drive fast motorcycles or skydive but plenty of people do so risk is a personal choice...not wrong or right just different.

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    Actually, I would argue the opposite. As long as guys can become passport bros and blow off steam legally with escorts, it reduces the ability of the state controlled by feminists to demand absurd conditions for marriage or relationships. Desperate guys who want to get laid will agree to taking risks like losing their house, paying lifetime alimony and losing half their stuff by getting married - like I told one guy who wanted me to marry a relative of his - a woman with three kids who wanted to monkey branch - why would I risk my house with an American woman when I can get action in Tijuana for $20 anytime I want if I feel the need with no risk?

    If you are worried about being robbed or having legal hassles - become a passport bro and go where it is legal. Stay in a hotel in Tijuana with good security. Suggest Adelita's, Chicago Club, Tropical Club or HK Club if you want legal hassle free action in Zona Norte Tijuana. PS - prices have gone up substantially from $20 since the years from when that discussion happened . . . Bidenflation . . .

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Wizard View Post
    Prostitution and all forms of it (stripper, dancer, escort, onlyfans,...) should be illegal. You would take the most powerful tool out of the hands of women and lead a pathway to a more civil society. However, I doubt it will ever happen because most guys don't mind degrading themselfs in having to pay for it, and most women have no problem degrading themselves in selling their body. Maybe these particular groups even deserve each other as they are opposites.
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    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    Actually, I would argue the opposite. As long as guys can become passport bros and blow off steam legally with escorts, it reduces the ability of the state to demand absurd conditions for marriage or relationships. Desperate guys who want to get laid will agree to taking risks like losing their house, paying lifetime alimony and losing half their stuff by getting married - like I told one guy who wanted me to marry a relative of his - a woman with three kids who wanted to monkey branch - why would I risk my house with an American woman when I can get action in Tijuana for $20 anytime I want if I feel the need with no risk?

    If you are worried about being robbed or having legal hassles - become a passport bro and go where it is legal. Stay in a hotel in Tijuana with good security. Suggest Adelita's, Chicago Club, Tropical Club or HK Club if you want legal hassle free action in Zona Norte Tijuana. PS - prices have gone up substantially from $20 since the years from when that discussion happened . . . Bidenflation . . .
    “ If you are worried about being robbed or having legal hassles - become a passport bro and go where it is legal. Stay in a hotel in Tijuana with good security. Suggest Adelita's, Chicago Club, Tropical Club or HK Club if you want legal hassle free action in Zona Norte Tijuana.”

    CHEERS from the EAST CPRA!

    You, I and BROCKSTAR are Eskimo brothers, it seems!

    Brock and I meet up whenever we get a chance, though he lives in the west and I in the East. You’re more than welcome to join us in our next tryst with destiny. What say?

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    Sure, have a Goingyourownway meetup at Restaurante Azul or HK sometime with free Steak and Eggs aka Desayuno Americano. Breakfast is free on Tuesdays and Wednesdays if you have a Cascadas hotel room and ask to be comped with a free breakfast card . . . just send me and the bros here the time and dates available . . .
    Quote Originally Posted by WanderLuster View Post
    “ If you are worried about being robbed or having legal hassles - become a passport bro and go where it is legal. Stay in a hotel in Tijuana with good security. Suggest Adelita's, Chicago Club, Tropical Club or HK Club if you want legal hassle free action in Zona Norte Tijuana.”

    CHEERS from the EAST CPRA!

    You, I and BROCKSTAR are Eskimo brothers, it seems!

    Brock and I meet up whenever we get a chance, though he lives in the west and I in the East. You’re more than welcome to join us in our next tryst with destiny. What say?

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    Re: Prostitution is a GOOD thing!

    All sex is prostitution. You are always giving her something for sex.
    Stay away from women. They will only break your heart.

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanderLuster View Post
    I’m just curious as to why men, who have some money and a good penile health, won’t like to shag a cunt without any strings attached? Is emotion/love that necessary for such men in order to non-sensically blow a load into a minge?
    I just don't find it worthwhile, most of the time. There is the skanky element. There is the illegality and the risk to reputation. There is the risk of STDs. There is the risk of being robbed or ripped off. And ultimately, the sex itself isn't that enjoyable.

    Part of this may be that I'm 61, so my libido isn't what it used to be (which to me is a good thing). I still enjoy an occasional roll in the hay, but it's down to about once a year. I just find "handling my own business" much easier, simpler, cheaper.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    I just don't find it worthwhile, most of the time. There is the skanky element. There is the illegality and the risk to reputation. There is the risk of STDs. There is the risk of being robbed or ripped off. And ultimately, the sex itself isn't that enjoyable.

    Part of this may be that I'm 61, so my libido isn't what it used to be (which to me is a good thing). I still enjoy an occasional roll in the hay, but it's down to about once a year. I just find "handling my own business" much easier, simpler, cheaper.
    RESPECT from the East!

    Cheers Eddie!

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    Actually, I would argue the opposite. As long as guys can become passport bros and blow off steam legally with escorts, it reduces the ability of the state controlled by feminists to demand absurd conditions for marriage or relationships. Desperate guys who want to get laid will agree to taking risks like losing their house, paying lifetime alimony and losing half their stuff by getting married - like I told one guy who wanted me to marry a relative of his - a woman with three kids who wanted to monkey branch - why would I risk my house with an American woman when I can get action in Tijuana for $20 anytime I want if I feel the need with no risk?

    If you are worried about being robbed or having legal hassles - become a passport bro and go where it is legal. Stay in a hotel in Tijuana with good security. Suggest Adelita's, Chicago Club, Tropical Club or HK Club if you want legal hassle free action in Zona Norte Tijuana. PS - prices have gone up substantially from $20 since the years from when that discussion happened . . . Bidenflation . . .
    Their sexuality is their only weapon. If you take it away, they would have to focus on actually being useful.

    Only in a completely illogical market with irrational monkey brain participants are men paying for the security of getting their lives ruined.

    It's not only women who are stupid, never forget that! Just say no and stop paying them because their worth is way below 0. In fact, they should be paying you for taking the risk in interacting with them.
    "Le seul moyen d'affronter un monde sans liberté est de devenir si absolument libre qu'on fasse de sa propre existence un acte de révolte." - Albert Camus

    "Mut auf dem Schlachtfelde ist bei uns Gemeingut, aber Sie werden nicht selten finden, daß es ganz achtbaren Leuten an Zivilcourage fehlt." - Robert von Keudell

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    I think your argument would work on the planet Vulcan with Spock types - but logic also says to minimize your risk, which is what you are doing when you avoid the feminist States of the USA. Look at what happened to Trump, Epstein and Weinstein when they got involved with American women in the USA - divorces, lawsuits jail, and payouts. Macho countries in Latin America and Eastern Europe are safer places for guys who want action and travel and to avoid getting their lives ruined, not the life of a monk or Spock. Different strokes for different guys!

    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Wizard View Post
    Their sexuality is their only weapon. If you take it away, they would have to focus on actually being useful.

    Only in a completely illogical market with irrational monkey brain participants are men paying for the security of getting their lives ruined.

    It's not only women who are stupid, never forget that! Just say no and stop paying them because their worth is way below 0. In fact, they should be paying you for taking the risk in interacting with them.

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    Quote Originally Posted by CPRA View Post
    I think your argument would work on the planet Vulcan with Spock types - but logic also says to minimize your risk, which is what you are doing when you avoid the feminist States of the USA. Look at what happened to Trump, Epstein and Weinstein when they got involved with American women in the USA - divorces, lawsuits jail, and payouts. Macho countries in Latin America and Eastern Europe are safer places for guys who want action and travel and to avoid getting their lives ruined, not the life of a monk or Spock. Different strokes for different guys!
    It's not so much a regional problem as it is a psychological problem. If you don't want a monkey to do something particular, then don't give him bananas when he does it. Simple as that.

    There is also a lack in understanding that outsourcing the problem, for example going overseas in countries which are heavily invested in human trafficking and violating basic human rights of their people will only worsen the situation.

    It will end in a Scandinavian approach which outlaws the men who frequent prostitutes while granting the prostitutes full support of the state.

    It's an honour for me to be named in the same phrase as Spock and Vulcan, however, most humans have more potential in them as they are willing to see.

    It's a question of discipline. Be like the change you are wishing to be implemented in a broader way.

    And please don't throw bananas at monkeys while simultaneosly crying about their behaviour. That's beyond retarded.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Smoking Wizard View Post
    It's not so much a regional problem as it is a psychological problem. If you don't want a monkey to do something particular, then don't give him bananas when he does it. Simple as that.

    There is also a lack in understanding that outsourcing the problem, for example going overseas in countries which are heavily invested in human trafficking and violating basic human rights of their people will only worsen the situation.

    It will end in a Scandinavian approach which outlaws the men who frequent prostitutes while granting the prostitutes full support of the state.

    It's an honour for me to be named in the same phrase as Spock and Vulcan, however, most humans have more potential in them as they are willing to see.

    It's a question of discipline. Be like the change you are wishing to be implemented in a broader way.

    And please don't throw bananas at monkeys while simultaneosly crying about their behaviour. That's beyond retarded.
    “It's not so much a regional problem as it is a psychological problem. If you don't want a monkey to do something particular, then don't give him bananas when he does it.“

    ^^Let us talk psychology:

    You’re horny, you go to a whore. When you put a price tag on every hole on that woman, what does that imply?

    Imagine the “psychology” of a whore who is negotiating a price for all the holes present on her body. Haggling, negotiating….tsk tsk. She haggles “for” the “tools” she has, you haggle “with” the tools you have i.e. money. Now imagine whose tool is stronger?
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    EXACTLY!

    “And please don't throw bananas at monkeys while simultaneosly crying about their behaviour. That's beyond retarded.”

    No. You’re not throwing bananas at monkeys in this case, you’re PAYING for it. It’s just like any biz transaction that occurs on this planet, unlike Vulcan. It’s just smart navigation that is good for the economy too.

    “which are heavily invested in human trafficking and violating basic human rights”

    You had to bring this ^^ up too? Ok. How many mouths did you feed when you were stuck in the lockdown? And I ain’t talking about your family members. I put food on local whores’ table during the times they had no income whatsoever. Yes, they had to physically please me but it was because of me and my bros they were able to sustain their life during those difficult times. I call it “humanitarian.”

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    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    I just don't find it worthwhile, most of the time. There is the skanky element. There is the illegality and the risk to reputation. There is the risk of STDs. There is the risk of being robbed or ripped off. And ultimately, the sex itself isn't that enjoyable.

    Part of this may be that I'm 61, so my libido isn't what it used to be (which to me is a good thing). I still enjoy an occasional roll in the hay, but it's down to about once a year. I just find "handling my own business" much easier, simpler, cheaper.
    I can understand the rationale for some guys to do this given that we mostly live in a "dark matriarchy" in the current time period. However, as a counter argument to the OP also don't forget the risk of blackmail and entrapment. If you're mgtow you also need to win by not playing and protect yourself against hooker blackmail too. I guarantee you in almost every hotel nowadays there are cameras by every entrance, exit, hallway, and often inside of airbnbs. Lets say some mgtows have a dream of being a white hat like Gen Flynn some day. Fat chance of that if you fuck hookers. On the other hand a lot of guys have zero blackmail material on themselves and they still get killed anyway. Some guys don't give a shit and have no plans whatsoever of ever trying to reform the system so I can understand why they would do that

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    Quote Originally Posted by fratermgtow View Post
    I can understand the rationale for some guys to do this given that we mostly live in a "dark matriarchy" in the current time period. However, as a counter argument to the OP also don't forget the risk of blackmail and entrapment. If you're mgtow you also need to win by not playing and protect yourself against hooker blackmail too. I guarantee you in almost every hotel nowadays there are cameras by every entrance, exit, hallway, and often inside of airbnbs. Lets say some mgtows have a dream of being a white hat like Gen Flynn some day. Fat chance of that if you fuck hookers. On the other hand a lot of guys have zero blackmail material on themselves and they still get killed anyway. Some guys don't give a shit and have no plans whatsoever of ever trying to reform the system so I can understand why they would do that
    With respect,
    First of all, what the fuck is “dark matriarchy?”

    “However, as a counter argument to the OP also don't forget the risk of blackmail and entrapment.”

    That’s where the brain comes to play. I NEVER said you should “livin da vida loca.” Use your bigger head to appease your lil head. Reconnoissance, chaps, reconnoissance! Observe FIRST! Saying a guy who has fucked more than 529..oh I forget the number again!

    “Some guys don't give a shit and have no plans whatsoever of ever trying to reform the system.”

    Trust me when I say this, nobody asked me if I wanted to be born before I was born into this fucking system. I couldn’t care less to “reform” the system. I was born into it and I play with the rules of this fucking “system” to THRIVE and make MYSELF happy whenever I get the urge. I did not make the system, I have no desire to reform it.

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    I've been to around 10 pro's and can honestly say - their lust for money is a turn-off and I see through their facade. Me having sex with a woman for money just isn't a turn on, because I know she's hoping it's over fast so she can get paid. At least with a girlfriend she's (generally) a little more enthusiastic and wants it, without a wad of cash at the end (if she does want a wad of cash at the end, you're dating a hooker).

    It's not really my scene. Tried it. Not interested to do it again. I'd rather save the cash.

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    I went to lots of whorehouses in the Philippines and South Korea when I was in the military in the 1970s and 1980s. The practice was legal at the time and regulated by the government. (Prostitution has since been outlawed in both countries.) Basically you went into a bar, picked out a hooker (or they came over and asked if you would buy a drink), and you partied with them at the bar until you were ready to get a room with them or go home with them. The hookers were young and had kind of a "party girl" vibe. Meeting them in a bar meant you could focus on them, dance with them, get to know them a little bit, etc. Or you could arrive with buddies, do some hard drinking together, and later head home with a hooker, etc. So it made for a full night of partying.

    It was fun, and was definitely good for an occasional night out. And it was all very cheap since those countries were third-world countries at the time. Some guys even rented hookers by the month and shacked up with them off-base.

    By way of contrast, I also checked out streetwalkers in Honolulu, Hawaii. The streetwalkers were of decent quality and all, but ducking the cops was an issue and the vibe was much more paranoid and hurried. A lot less fun.

    After Honolulu I've never bothered with streetwalkers. But if I were somewhere where prostitution was legal and could go to bars or brothels, like Amsterdam, I would probably make use of the facilities.
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    Where women have power over men, it's usually because blue-pill simps give them that power. So let the blue-pill simps live with the consequences. Today's world isn't of my making. I just recognize the realities and set myself apart.

    I don't hate women. I just don't want women in my own life. Females bring entitlement, strife, and drama; as a result there's no peace or relaxation when they are in my life. So I avoid them. They go their way, and I go mine.

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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWLife View Post
    I went to lots of whorehouses in the Philippines and South Korea when I was in the military in the 1970s and 1980s. The practice was legal at the time and regulated by the government. (Prostitution has since been outlawed in both countries.) Basically you went into a bar, picked out a hooker (or they came over and asked if you would buy a drink), and you partied with them at the bar until you were ready to get a room with them or go home with them. The hookers were young and had kind of a "party girl" vibe. Meeting them in a bar meant you could focus on them, dance with them, get to know them a little bit, etc. Or you could arrive with buddies, do some hard drinking together, and later head home with a hooker, etc. So it made for a full night of partying.

    It was fun, and was definitely good for an occasional night out. And it was all very cheap since those countries were third-world countries at the time. Some guys even rented hookers by the month and shacked up with them off-base.

    By way of contrast, I also checked out streetwalkers in Honolulu, Hawaii. The streetwalkers were of decent quality and all, but ducking the cops was an issue and the vibe was much more paranoid and hurried. A lot less fun.

    After Honolulu I've never bothered with streetwalkers. But if I were somewhere where prostitution was legal and could go to bars or brothels, like Amsterdam, I would probably make use of the facilities.
    Been to Hawaii but never once spotted any streetwalkers. When was this, if I may ask? I have been there only once tho. LOVED Pearl Harbour! Thanks man, though I seriously doubt I will ever step foot in the United States of Retards again!

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    Quote Originally Posted by WanderLuster View Post
    Been to Hawaii but never once spotted any streetwalkers. When was this, if I may ask? I have been there only once tho. LOVED Pearl Harbour! Thanks man, though I seriously doubt I will ever step foot in the United States of Retards again!
    I was there twice: 1975-77 and 1982-85. I don't know anything about Honolulu today, but Honolulu was pretty wild back back in the 70s and 80s. It was a party town, kind of like New Orleans. You could drink and drive legally in the 70s, they had a main bar district as well as a "strip" of seedy gay bars and tranny bars (bars for transvestites) on the edge of town, etc.

    I forget the name of the street where I picked up the streetwalkers, but it was right downtown, a couple blocks up from Waikiki and all the big-name hotels there. The streetwalkers weren't obvious, especially at the height of tourist season when the streets were crowded with tourists. Like I said above, the streetwalkers were of decent quality and presentable, so they blended in with the tourists. But they were there if you knew what to look for.
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    Where women have power over men, it's usually because blue-pill simps give them that power. So let the blue-pill simps live with the consequences. Today's world isn't of my making. I just recognize the realities and set myself apart.

    I don't hate women. I just don't want women in my own life. Females bring entitlement, strife, and drama; as a result there's no peace or relaxation when they are in my life. So I avoid them. They go their way, and I go mine.

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    Feels like a waste of money after the clarity hits.

    Better to do it yourself then spend the hundreds on yourself. Win win xD


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