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    Prostate health.....

    At age 56 I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. I'll admit I was scared shitless when I got the news; the first time I actually faced my own mortality. Fortunately, it was caught in time. After examining my options, I chose hormone therapy and radiation treatment. That was about 12 years ago and I'm still clean. Thanks to medical science and some good doctors, and my family doctor, a woman, who was first suspicious.

    A man I worked with for years was not so lucky. The cancer had spread into the surrounding tissue and he's not doing well. I saw him recently, and though he's about the same age as me, he looks older, and real, real sick. So, just a word to the wise: as you get older don't skip the finger exam, unpleasant though it may be, and psa test. It could be YOUR life you're saving.

    As a side note: The hormone therapy was 4 injections, (Lupron, if I remember correctly), over the course of year. It reduced testosterone levels to near zero, I would guess. What was interesting, as I look back on it, was that as my libido dropped, I found I had almost no interest in sex any more. I even stopped noticing women, or at least stopped actively looking at them. It was actually liberating in a strange sort of way. I wasn't thinking about sex nearly as much as I used to. I couldn't really "perform" any more, though out of curiosity, I tried a few times. Not very satisfying, and IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL!!.

    One of Greek philosophers, on commenting reaching old age and losing all sexual desire said it was like being freed from a cruel and inhuman master. I know what he meant

    Fare you well, Gentlemen.........

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    Re: Prostate health.....

    Thanks Genghis for sharing your experience. I am 46. My strategy is Saw Palmetto and not eating sugar. I read somewhere that cancer cells feed off glucose.

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    Blood donations to lower iron levels help prevent cancer and heart problems too. https://www.lewrockwell.com/2002/02/...lood-and-iron/

    Quote Originally Posted by Abdenour View Post
    Thanks Genghis for sharing your experience. I am 46. My strategy is Saw Palmetto and not eating sugar. I read somewhere that cancer cells feed off glucose.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Abdenour View Post
    Thanks Genghis for sharing your experience. I am 46. My strategy is Saw Palmetto and not eating sugar. I read somewhere that cancer cells feed off glucose.
    I understand saw palmetto will slightly help in enlarged prostates, though I doubt it has any effect in preventing cancer. Prostate cancer is one of the more curable forms. I wouldn't forgo routine medical exams and blood tests.

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    Re: Prostate health.....

    It's often said that old men die WITH prostate cancer, not OF it - the cancer is often not aggressive and can just be monitored without needing treatment. It's the slightly younger guys in their 50's and 60's who should be more concerned. If you don't fancy a finger up the date ask your doctor if a PSA blood test or ultrasound is suitable instead.

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    Quote Originally Posted by 2late View Post
    It's often said that old men die WITH prostate cancer, not OF it - the cancer is often not aggressive and can just be monitored without needing treatment. It's the slightly younger guys in their 50's and 60's who should be more concerned. If you don't fancy a finger up the date ask your doctor if a PSA blood test or ultrasound is suitable instead.
    PSA is a fine indicator but it has far too many false negatives to be reliable. Yes, we all should get a PSA periodically based on age, and other risk factors. Yes we should all get the digital exam as well. My father got diagnosed too late to avoid surgery and was non-functional, if you catch my drift, for the last 20 years of his life. I had an uncle in law that was diagnosed when he was 55. He tried all kinds of alternative medical methods to avoid surgery. By the time he gave up on alternative medicine it was too late and he died of the prostate cancer, which had metastasized.

    As far as I know, and I have several high risk indicators for prostate problems, the poster above that noted that Saw Palmetto is a corrective (maybe) and not a preventative for an enlarged prostate is absolutely correct. In general, it is a bad idea to take a bunch of junk for which you don't have the issue that the particular junk is supposed to resolve.

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    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisCon View Post
    At age 56 I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. I'll admit I was scared shitless when I got the news; the first time I actually faced my own mortality.
    I 'found' the reishi (lingzhi) mushroon in another context. But once read an article (US-medical/science database?)[1] about this mushroom and his positive effects for people with prostate cancer (growth <=> testosterone level).

    It has also a positive effect to the human immune system and some other cancer. One chapter from wikipedia:

    "...Cancer: The use of G. lucidum has also been explored as a complementary adjunct treatment in patients undergoing chemotherapy treatment. A recent meta-analysis of five randomized control trials showed that patients responded more positively when given G. lucidum alongside their chemotherapy regimen, and the studies also showed that patients had improved immune functions that was measured by their elevated levels of immune response cells.[54] Several compounds in G. lucidum have been studied for apoptotic activity in colon cancer cells,[55] antiproliferative effects in ovarian cancer cells, [56] and induction of apoptosis in human gastric carcinoma cells..."

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    [1] I found it: US National Library of Medicine




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    Re: Prostate health.....

    my 23andme medical report (pre-FDA ban) has me at elevated risk for prostate cancer (30% vs 17.8%, nearly 2x the natural occurrence rate) although I am lower than average / average risk at nearly everything else.
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    Re: Prostate health.....

    I started taking iodine supplements about two years ago. Before taking it I was waking up three to four times a night to hit the head. Nowadays I am able to make it through the night with no interruptions unless I down a six pack before bedtime. I started slowly with the supplements and worked up to 1.2 mg/day. I'm now taking that dose two or three times a month. It takes awhile to flush your glands of built up flourine, chlorine and bromine which are now part of our everyday lives. Your body doesn't know the difference between these elements. For those interested it's worth an hour of research.

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    Quote Originally Posted by woodsmith View Post
    I started taking iodine supplements about two years ago. Before taking it I was waking up three to four times a night to hit the head. Nowadays I am able to make it through the night with no interruptions unless I down a six pack before bedtime. I started slowly with the supplements and worked up to 1.2 mg/day. I'm now taking that dose two or three times a month. It takes awhile to flush your glands of built up flourine, chlorine and bromine which are now part of our everyday lives. Your body doesn't know the difference between these elements. For those interested it's worth an hour of research.
    Prostate and many other cancers and diseases have been linked to Iodine deficiency. 1.2mg of Iodine a day is unlikely to flush out the other chemicals that have been taken up by the receptors, even several times a day. You will want to work up to at least 12 - 50mg a day. It's also important that you do it correctly which means you need to supplement with high dose vitamin C, 200mcg selenium, 400-500mg magnesium and optional ATP co factors every day. Without doing so can lead to thyroiditis and other problems.

    There is a negative effect on the thyroid when Iodine is converted and selenium protects against that amongst other things.
    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti

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    Hello Neo.
    You did a very good write up on the supplementation regiment. I get the selenium from Brazil nuts and take 350 mgs a day of magnesium bicarbonate. When I first started I was also doing sodium bicarbonate flushes to help clear the bromine out of the kidneys. I am going to research about the atp, never heard of it before. I also take some borax every now and then. It's supposed to help clear fluoride frome the system and be an arthritis preventer/cure. Fyi I take atomidine on the regular and a couple of drops of lugols onto my soft pallet at the first sign of a scratchy throat. Haven't had a cold or sinus infection since. Spread the word my friend.

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    Re: Prostate health.....

    Quote Originally Posted by GenghisCon View Post
    At age 56 I was diagnosed with prostate cancer. I'll admit I was scared shitless when I got the news; the first time I actually faced my own mortality. Fortunately, it was caught in time. After examining my options, I chose hormone therapy and radiation treatment. That was about 12 years ago and I'm still clean. Thanks to medical science and some good doctors, and my family doctor, a woman, who was first suspicious.

    A man I worked with for years was not so lucky. The cancer had spread into the surrounding tissue and he's not doing well. I saw him recently, and though he's about the same age as me, he looks older, and real, real sick. So, just a word to the wise: as you get older don't skip the finger exam, unpleasant though it may be, and psa test. It could be YOUR life you're saving.

    As a side note: The hormone therapy was 4 injections, (Lupron, if I remember correctly), over the course of year. It reduced testosterone levels to near zero, I would guess. What was interesting, as I look back on it, was that as my libido dropped, I found I had almost no interest in sex any more. I even stopped noticing women, or at least stopped actively looking at them. It was actually liberating in a strange sort of way. I wasn't thinking about sex nearly as much as I used to. I couldn't really "perform" any more, though out of curiosity, I tried a few times. Not very satisfying, and IT WASN'T A BIG DEAL!!.

    One of Greek philosophers, on commenting reaching old age and losing all sexual desire said it was like being freed from a cruel and inhuman master. I know what he meant

    Fare you well, Gentlemen.........
    This is a great post. I think that one of the things we should do as a community is to promote good health in each other.
    Luck is what happens when preparation meets opportunity. --Seneca

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    I don't agree with everything he says but he makes a lot of very good points.

    It is no measure of health to be well adjusted to a profoundly sick society." - Jiddu Krishnamurti


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