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    Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Hello,

    A recent post by Scotland First Minister Nicola Sturgeon directed me to the following video: youtu.be/sVcu8Hwv8u8

    Sturgeon's Tweet can be found here: twitter.com/NicolaSturgeon/status/1448302759334322182

    Women are hysterical around the topic of sexual violence in the UK at the moment after the heinous murder of Sarah Everard. Politicians are pandering for votes and Police Scotland have started a campaign called "That Guy" (that-guy.co.uk/about/) that teaches men "better ways to be a man". The theme is that sexual entitlement is intrinsic to men and that men require re-education and refresher courses, starting from a young age, on how not to commit sexual violence.

    This reminds of the Gillette advert, only this is a government initiative with support from a First Minister. I must admit, I was hoping that this sort of blatant misandry wouldn't wash up on UK shores, but it seems that as usual, our isles are following closely behind our cultural leaders in the USA.

    These campaigns cause immeasurable damage and those in power understand that.

    A line from the "About" page that I thought was incredible: "We want women to be free to live their lives without having to worry about what men say or do."

    By all means.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    It is known that at least 1 in 100 people are psychopaths.

    Magical thinking about this fact is pretty funny. A criminal is about to do something awful, but wait, someone right in the nick of time tells the perp to be a better man! "Well, now that you've told me, I've changed my mind, no crime for me ever again."

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Top down bureaucracy can never compete with a father teaching his daughter the art of self defense, but we all know what happened to fathers and families.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    This will fuel another wave of men being charged with dubious sexual assault crimes. Last time shit hit the fan hundreds of cases were thrown out as authorities found cases were being prosecuted with little to no evidence and in some cases police were withholding exculpatory evidence.

    The persecution of men knows no bounds.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    I once had a discussion (verbal sparring session) with a feminist about the whole 'me too' movement. Specifically, we were talking about some of the false rape claims that come from hangover/morning after sex regret complaints... etc. In the middle of her blasting a bunch of memorized statistics at me about all the sexual violence that women endure from men, and about all the government/police action that needed to be taken against men to stop all this horrible behavior, I had a sort of epiphany and ended the discussion this way:

    Me: "We are at a point now where men are being thrown out of university on only the verbal accusation of a single person..."

    Her: (paraphrasing) "... whatever has to be done for this (sexual assault) behavior to stop is acceptable ..."

    Me: "So, how many of my rights should be violated as a result of some horrible thing that some other person has done?"

    Her: (pausing because she sensed a trap) "... Well, none..."

    Me: "Does that include my right to be considered innocent until proven guilty to a jury in a public court room?"

    Her: Quietly enraged that she didn't see that trap before stepping in it, but quiet all the same.

    In the design of our country, the framers of our government were well aware that making a person into a criminal and then using that to imprison them had been a favored trick of tyrants for as long as there had been tyrants. In their enormous wisdom, they removed that power almost completely from the government they were forming. For most of our history, it has been true that here in the US, the government cannot put you in jail. Ultimately, only a jury made up of random other citizens can do that, and then only after a trial between two lawyers who each have equal chance to prove their case for or against guilt/imprisonment. That trial is presided over by a judge who is elected for only a limited time, by more of those citizens to that position. The framers of the original USA government had seen a variety of abuse of all the different forms of political power (taxation, imprisonment, etc) and wisely sought to transfer as much of that power as possible from the government to the people.

    "Innocent until proven guilty" was one of the mechanisms for doing that with regards to criminalization and imprisonment. There's now been a change to "guilty until accused by a woman". But as tyrannical as this, even that seems not to have been enough. Now we have police essentially declaring "guilty at birth if, you are born male". They (police) have declared men to be the problem. They don't even wait for the accusation anymore.

    Male = guilty

    I'm not the most religious person in the world, and Islam would probably not be my first choice for a religion if I was. But I am starting to see the appeal of it in places where feminism has become the new tyrant...

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    And yet if I said I was a MGTOW who didn't want anything to do with women I would still be called a misogynist. You can't win. The problem according to society is I exist.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrainPilot View Post
    I'm not the most religious person in the world, and Islam would probably not be my first choice for a religion if I was. But I am starting to see the appeal of it in places where feminism has become the new tyrant...
    There is a fantastic piece of journalism on youtube about how men are treated in Isreal. One guy is arrested each month juston the accusations of his clearly crazy ex gf. The cops know it's bullshit, but as one officer explains, they get hell for arresting a woman, as he did when he was a new police officer, it's just easier to arrest the man no matter what because no one cares.

    It's so bad in Isreal that many men look to Islam and think it would be better. Let that shit sink in!

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Of course. If you're talking about minorities or women, you should never stereotype. Stereotyping is wrong because it blames an entire group of people for the alleged wrong doings of some of them. Makes sense to me. Some black dude robbed a liquor store? That one man is responsible for that, not black people in general. One woman gets overly emotional and can't see reason? That's her problem; don't assume every woman does that. Okay, we've got it down, right?

    Now ... when it comes to men .... be sure to always stereotype us! Make sure to blame men in general for rape, even though almost all men go through their whole lives while never raping anyone. Make up insulting slogans like "teach men not to rape" and "any man is a potential rapist." Imagine if you put up a sign, "Teach black men not to rape." There would be an outcry, and a justifiable one about stereotyping black people like that. But stereotype men like that and it's A-okay.

    It's because it's permitted to hate on men, and especially on white men. Some white men committed terrible crimes in the 18th and 19th centuries? Totally our fault! We failed to invent a time machine to beam back and stop them. In the 20th century, before we were born, Nazis set up mass extermination camps to dehumanize and kill as many Jews as possible? Totally our fault! We weren't born yet, but how dare we not go back in time and stop them? And we're white men, so we must somehow love what they did.

    The lynch mob mentality used to be mainly directed at black dudes. Black dudes would get abducted and murdered because they were suspected of raping a white woman. In many cases, he had had consensual sex with the white woman. In other cases, no sex at all had ever occurred. She made the whole thing up for whatever reason. But a black man would end up choking to death at the end of a rope because of it. I can't condemn that mentality enough. It was some sick shit.

    Now that same mob mentality has been redirected towards white dudes. The lynchings aren't happening, but many innocent white guys have ended up in prison for rapes they did not commit. That may not be quite as bad as lynchings, but it's definitely bad enough. Now feminists want to exclude emails from evidence in rape trials. Imagine if you had a totally consensual sexual encounter with a woman, and the next day she emailed you: "Thanks for last night. You were a gentleman, and you were wild. I had a great time." Then later, she changes her tune when her boyfriend is pissed off that she banged someone else. Suddenly her story changes -- all of a sudden it was rape. However, you've got that email, proving it was consensual and wasn't even close to rape. Now imagine not being able to use that evidence in court! Imagine then being convicted when you know, and you can even prove, it was consensual sex.

    The number one reason in Innocence Project cases that men need to be freed from prison is false rape convictions! That's a fact that feminists want to obscure. They'll come back with their "stats" (i.e. manipulated and super biased data) that supposedly proves that women almost never falsely accuse anyone. That twisted with junk science they're using is another topic. The truth is, if there weren't a false rape accusation problem, the Innocence Project would not have found so many wrong rape convictions. But, of course, it's okay to hate on men, and especially white men, because the whole "be fair to everyone" and "don't stereotype anyone" standards don't apply to us. Feminists are 100 percent okay with innocent men going to prison for rape. It's part of their agenda. That makes them terrorists. They use our government to commit acts of terrorism against men, namely, convicting innocent men of rape. According to them, you have no right to defend yourself, not even if you have email evidence.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Islam is our temptation, but MGTOW is our solution.

    I have no complaints about the current horrid state of gender dynamics, not one complaint, everything's fixed and running smoother than a 12 cylinder on high octane.

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Islam is our temptation, but MGTOW is our solution.

    I have no complaints about the current horrid state of gender dynamics, not one complaint, everything's fixed and running smoother than a 12 cylinder on high octane.
    I don't quite follow you. Do you mean it's running smoothly for MGTOW because we've opted out? I sure wouldn't describe today's gender interactions as running smoothly. I think it's a broken-down mess. My life does run the best it's ever run because I avoid the whole mess, but I do think the mess is a mess.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by BrainPilot View Post
    I once had a discussion (verbal sparring session) with a feminist about the whole 'me too' movement. Specifically, we were talking about some of the false rape claims that come from hangover/morning after sex regret complaints... etc. In the middle of her blasting a bunch of memorized statistics at me about all the sexual violence that women endure from men, and about all the government/police action that needed to be taken against men to stop all this horrible behavior, I had a sort of epiphany and ended the discussion this way:

    Me: "We are at a point now where men are being thrown out of university on only the verbal accusation of a single person..."

    Her: (paraphrasing) "... whatever has to be done for this (sexual assault) behavior to stop is acceptable ..."

    Me: "So, how many of my rights should be violated as a result of some horrible thing that some other person has done?"

    Her: (pausing because she sensed a trap) "... Well, none..."

    Me: "Does that include my right to be considered innocent until proven guilty to a jury in a public court room?"

    Her: Quietly enraged that she didn't see that trap before stepping in it, but quiet all the same.

    In the design of our country, the framers of our government were well aware that making a person into a criminal and then using that to imprison them had been a favored trick of tyrants for as long as there had been tyrants. In their enormous wisdom, they removed that power almost completely from the government they were forming. For most of our history, it has been true that here in the US, the government cannot put you in jail. Ultimately, only a jury made up of random other citizens can do that, and then only after a trial between two lawyers who each have equal chance to prove their case for or against guilt/imprisonment. That trial is presided over by a judge who is elected for only a limited time, by more of those citizens to that position. The framers of the original USA government had seen a variety of abuse of all the different forms of political power (taxation, imprisonment, etc) and wisely sought to transfer as much of that power as possible from the government to the people.

    "Innocent until proven guilty" was one of the mechanisms for doing that with regards to criminalization and imprisonment. There's now been a change to "guilty until accused by a woman". But as tyrannical as this, even that seems not to have been enough. Now we have police essentially declaring "guilty at birth if, you are born male". They (police) have declared men to be the problem. They don't even wait for the accusation anymore.

    Male = guilty

    I'm not the most religious person in the world, and Islam would probably not be my first choice for a religion if I was. But I am starting to see the appeal of it in places where feminism has become the new tyrant...
    The jury system is pointless when women are allowed to be in. They have in group bias. You cannot win.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    I don't quite follow you. Do you mean it's running smoothly for MGTOW because we've opted out? I sure wouldn't describe today's gender interactions as running smoothly. I think it's a broken-down mess. My life does run the best it's ever run because I avoid the whole mess, but I do think the mess is a mess.
    I'm referring to that flaming wreck, 4 wheeled rodent's nest I left back in the pits, AKA life with a woman!

    My detachment from the clusterfuck known as society, the law, and modern women, is working out very well for me!

    This reply was brought to you live from the sovereign nation of Tower! When a man can say that, he's pretty much got things figured out!

    A man without a MGTOW fire blanket? That's another story...

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    Women are hysterical around the topic of sexual violence in the UK at the moment after the heinous murder of Sarah Everard
    By a policeman and a female accomplice. No mention of the woman in the media, despite her being released on bail which means, she was charged with a crime.. It's currently all about "men bad" but let's face the public trust and let their guard down around the Police (in the UK at least). You just have to watch some Auditing Britain videos to notice that british Police don't even know their own laws and are so used to the public just doing what they are ordered to do.

    Only reddit notices the accomplice, and even then she's white knighted by strangers. Not only that, the Police has not released her name, which is interesting because such legal protection normally only applies to minors. https://www.reddit.com/r/LeftWingMal...d_murder_case/

    It's almost like this is a false flag.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    For our friends on the West of the Atlantic I can say that the insanity that is feminism and its off-shoots has been at home in the UK for quite some time now. However Scotland has been the most insane advocate of this ever since Sturgeon's rise to power. I work all over the UK and its honestly at a level now where I am considering not travelling to Scotland any more. Its like the worst cities of England (e.g. Bristol) but ramped up extra hard with full government backing.

    To parrot others though it is true, a MGTOW avoids 99% of this sh*tshow. That 1% is still a lot more sh*t than I like swallowing but its better than what the blue-pilled men grind through every day.

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    Re: Police Scotland says most men are the problem.

    I saw that as well, so ridiculous. Complete state of the UK these days.

    It's so patronising. Why don't we have group discussions for men on why not to murder people? We know it's wrong. Pretty much everyone knows its wrong. Same with sexual assault.

    And you really think the kind of scumbag who would actually go and sexually assault someone would sign up for your little group therapy/self-hatred session to talk about it? Lol.


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