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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    In richest countries vast majority of men suddenly do the math and come up with the figure that they cant afford to even have a girlfriend . So kids are completely out of the question .

    But then people of course go but , but , but , but ... But only the poorest of people in these richest countries have children cause they do not do their math . They start families without even knowing how much the pack of diapers cost .
    Here, the government schools don't teach that kind of math, and the government views the wombs of welfare poor as little "voter factories."
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Well yes the Chinese are trying to re-educate muslims, but at least the curriculum is easy:

    Lesson #1 This is not the 7th century its the 21st century,
    Lesson #2 Cutting the heads off of people is bad--please refrain from this activity,
    Lesson #3 Mohamed married an 8 year old girl---but you can't we call that pedophilia and its wrong,

    And so on...

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    If a lot of Chinese men go NEET or MGTOW doesn't that mean that their tax burden will be less than the career oriented ladies?

    And this is just another example of how government can't socially engineer the results they desire no matter how hard they try.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Ha! The Chinese way of dealing with men going their own way. Predictable.
    The only problem is that it will backfire royally as the overtaxed men, still uninterested in the current state of the other gender, will just start working less, or work outside the legal/taxed system. It'll force a large portion of men to just abandon society. Then the government will have less income in taxes to throw around, which in a communist country is a recipe for disaster. I bet MGTOW sources will soon be covered under the Great Big Firewall, if they are not already.

    No, they'd be wiser to offer:
    - Incentives to retain female babies. On the rural side the one-child-policy has caused a large bias towards men. A male son is also a retirement insurance policy there. Not so much in the cities.
    - Incentives to promote/glorify the feminine role of childbearer. That old propaganda machine of theirs should be able to handle that.
    - A "provider" tax deduction. Men supporting a family (or women supporting a family, if they are source of the sole income - but SINGLE INCOME families only) should get a MASSIVE tax cut. Could be fraud sensitive, but it would offer young adults starting out on the job market with a massive student debt, the prospect of a mortgage and all that, an extra incentive to not put off forming families in their prime fertile years. This would work in western societies too - but Big Business will not be happy since that'll halve the workforce again.
    - And if all that fails: Just ban women from the workforce. That'll cause a feminist uproar, but when women are dependent on men or their family for income, family units will naturally form again. It can't be done in western societies, but in China, I'd not put it past them.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Ultimately the Chinese are going to have the same problem the Japanese and the south Koreans have. As their work force ages they will need new workers to replace old retiring ones. This will be filled increasingly with women who will be working instead of having kids. Which in turn will make the problem worse over time. Stir into this mix the exaggerated hypergomous nature of Asian women (They will ONLY marry someone of greater status) and the 80/20 rule will become a 90/10 rule which means even fewer children. Ironic that one of the most populous and productive nations in the world will one day face a declining population and a resulting inability to maintain their productivity.

    Never EVER underestimate the power of women to bring a culture/civilization to its knees and destroy it.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    The idea is one o the more fanciful - but it was carried by nearly every western MSM outlet and certainly intended to make headlines as well as insult. However none of the really good proposals made it to print in the western MSM - I wonder why?

    The Chinese government is not stupid. The people at the top know how to handle this and they think long term.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    None of this is needed. The governments just need to be more patient to allow love to flourish naturally. It's like a beautiful flower, it's aroma irresistible to the man, ready to sniff it's delicate fragrance of femininity, it won't be long before nature takes place, and the woman's love, is joined with the mans desire for beautiful children. The patter of tiny feet and the loving couple embrace in harmony.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Ya think?
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Didn't they try the same in Rome and it failed spectacularly?

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by Neo View Post
    None of this is needed. The governments just need to be more patient to allow love to flourish naturally. It's like a beautiful flower, it's aroma irresistible to the man, ready to sniff it's delicate fragrance of femininity, it won't be long before nature takes place, and the woman's love, is joined with the mans desire for beautiful children. The patter of tiny feet and the loving couple embrace in harmony.
    I agree.

    But where do you find the "delicate fragrance of femininity"? Its gone...

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    I agree.

    But where do you find the "delicate fragrance of femininity"? Its gone...
    It's gone alright. The reason like always, is they don't have to. If society in general and the government in particular ever quits supporting their entitled ass's it'll be a different story. They might find being a slut don't pay very good.

    Until the partnership of a man becomes more valuable than what big daddy government gives out for free, nothing will ever change.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    GD Neo reading that almost made me upchuck.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    I agree.

    But where do you find the "delicate fragrance of femininity"? Its gone...
    Unfortunately, you can only find that in a perfume bottle....
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete View Post
    GD Neo reading that almost made me upchuck.
    Glad I wasn't the only one...
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    I remember saying they would start going after the mgtow fund maybe 2-3 years ago - doesn't surprise me.

    Once the UK government find out the babys are decreasing, they will do the same here.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    The one child policy did take into account the preference for boy children. Why waste resources raising a girl child when all they do is marry and go off to live (and work for) the son-in-law's family and have no obligation to support her parents in their old age?

    So, if you think hypergamy is bad when the sex ratio is fairly equal, imagine how it is when the government creates a 55-45% ratio?

    A shortage of women means that women can demand the Chinese equivalent of "the 6 sixes:" 6 figure income, 600 horsepower car, six pack abs, six feet tall, at least 6 inches below the belt, and have been out of their last relationship for six months.

    Government does not produce a surplus of anything except regulations and regulators. It has been said that government could create a shortage of sand in the desert.

    In a country of a billion people, only government could create a shortage of Chinese women. In doing so, it has created a generation of women who are impossible to please.
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    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    there is one thing about this "childless tax".....
    I'm on the understanding that when marriage is forced onto people.... both domestic violence and child abuse go up considerably...
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Excellent point Eiji. I've seen the statistics to back that up on one of Stafan Molyneux's videos.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by ShogunRonin View Post
    I remember saying they would start going after the mgtow fund maybe 2-3 years ago - doesn't surprise me.

    Once the UK government find out the babys are decreasing, they will do the same here.
    You are right and your prediction seems to be on track so far. They will probably give women tax credits to offset the single tax some way and somehow.

    Also remember how some dismissed some men going their own way as paranoid? And then poundmetoo hits and everyone is losing their minds and I am over here like a ghost chilling with my root beer in hand thinking meh this was seen coming years, years, years ago.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    It has been said that only government could create a shortage of sand in a desert.

    Well, it has been proven that government policy has created a shortage of women in a country of a billion people. Chinese men will have to import wives.

    That would be like Brazil having to import coffee and big asses.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.


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