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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    There are now "entertainment" taxes in parts of America so the bachelor taxes are well on the way...

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Its really amazing how governemnt action manages to screw up male-female relationships as if they did it on purporse.

    Outside the realm of fables, decrease in marriages and natality are all ignited from misbehaviour from women.

    Once women become too high maintenance, the common man cannot afford it anymore and the upper man finds it more convenient to rent rather than buy.

    Take away any welfare for women, make divorces a no gain for no one conclusion and remove any quota for public jobs or better yet stop creating useless jobs made for women then see what happens.

    Regarding africans and indians, no need to do anything, just stop wasting money of the first and let feminism work for the second and in the mean time SEAL those damn borders.

    Europe is fine, MGTOW is basically like an immune system to refresh once sh1t gets sick.

    Im not talking about men not getting married, Im talking about men in the london subway watching a women getting beaten from thug after she provoked him, without doing anything about.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Im not talking about men not getting married, Im talking about men in the london subway watching a women getting beaten from thug after she provoked him, without doing anything about.
    On the fucking point.

    People can blame muslim immigrations this, African migrants that.

    But the matter comes down to the white knights and the gynocentric laws they set up and enforce.
    You could have a very different society overnight; but white knights won't allow it.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    On the fucking point.

    People can blame muslim immigrations this, African migrants that.

    But the matter comes down to the white knights and the gynocentric laws they set up and enforce.
    You could have a very different society overnight; but white knights won't allow it.
    Thankfully women are doing any possible thing to piss off white knights and take advantage of those poor suckers who still believe in that shit.

    Internet and independant media will spread the word and those jackasses will think "damn its me".

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    It's a lot easier to get your population to have less children than to get them having more once they have seen the freedom that comes from not having them (or having less).
    Ultimately they will have to bring in young immigrants to make up the shortfall (from where ????) and we all know the problems that come with that.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    It's not about money you propellor-heads.

    Has any policymaker, academic, or economist ever dated? Or did they find a fellow ivory tower nerd soulmate early on and couple up to the point they have no CLUE what goes on between men and women?

    Giving people money assumes money is the primary obstacle to childbirth.

    You have to look at baby-making as a funnel.

    1. At the top of the funnel is: are people dating?
    2. Are the people who are dating, marrying?
    3. Are married couples having kids?


    This last tier is where money matters. But I think if you were to look at the upper two tiers- you'd find more virgins (just like we see in America. This is due to hypergamy- and hence, women sharing a single man.





    So 1st layer of the funnel has problems.

    2nd layer- are they marrying? You can see marriages are down everywhere:


    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/third-rail/...tting-married/ - US Marriage Rate down
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...les-say-i-dont - China marriages down

    If people aren't dating, they won't marry. If they're not married, they won't have kids. Offering money changes very little of this.

    There is a broader gender disconnect between men and women as a result of various factors including modernity where men seem less superhuman to women, since women have jobs making similar sums to most men, except the top 10% perhaps. Absent traditionalism and slut-shaming, women regress to only being drawn to men that their hindbrain perceives would "control resources" of the tribe (circa 50,000 BC) -

    https://twitter.com/devonzuegel/stat...75749949673472 - Tinder stat showing 78% of women are drawn primarily to the top 20% of men.


    There seem to be few studies and %'s of how many are dating. This upper-funnel data is crucial and should be collected. If authorities are serious about the problem, each level of the funnel should be measured and the current numbers compared to the past. The solution you'd propose is very different if the greatest negative change was in "% Chinese dating" (upper funnel) versus "Married Couples having fewer children per couple" (lower funnel).

    You have to eval. where in the funnel, the problem is - before you can propose a solution. Otherwise you end up with a random solution like "give 'em more money" and that may have nothing to do with the underlying problem.

    The answer - as we in MGTOW all know - lies in dismantling a kind of social engineering that has pitted women against men. It transcends national borders, because culture is global nowadays; American movies seen everywhere and Internet culture is everywhere. Unfortunately, as we know the CIA has funded feminism, we know that the primary actors who could fix the problem, caused the problem. Whether such forces are at work in China, I don't know.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    I didn't think China has that many women. Going to be tuff to get one. Boy, they are REALLY going to rule the roost!
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    China makes everything else, let them make the babies too!

    We're toast.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    It's not about money you propellor-heads.

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    Giving people money assumes money is the primary obstacle to childbirth.
    Agreed. Most 'couples' if they even think about finances pass it off quickly - we'll manage somehow, after all if others can cope then so can we. The desire to procreate takes precedence, we'll work it out somehow.

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post

    If people aren't dating, they won't marry. If they're not married, they won't have kids. Offering money changes very little of this.
    On this I have to disagree. Many couples today do not get married but that does not mean they do not want kids. What was once known as 'living in sin' is now taken as perfectly normal behaviour and many unmarried couples are raising families.

    But maybe you consider long term relationships where the couple raise kids as being indistinct from formal marriage in which case I withdraw my objection.

    Edit: I don't know what the situation is in China about unmarried couples having children today, but if it isn't the same as in the west today it will be tomorrow. You can hold back technology (and information) only so far, even the Chinese will eventually succumb.
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