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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    There are now "entertainment" taxes in parts of America so the bachelor taxes are well on the way...

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Its really amazing how governemnt action manages to screw up male-female relationships as if they did it on purporse.

    Outside the realm of fables, decrease in marriages and natality are all ignited from misbehaviour from women.

    Once women become too high maintenance, the common man cannot afford it anymore and the upper man finds it more convenient to rent rather than buy.

    Take away any welfare for women, make divorces a no gain for no one conclusion and remove any quota for public jobs or better yet stop creating useless jobs made for women then see what happens.

    Regarding africans and indians, no need to do anything, just stop wasting money of the first and let feminism work for the second and in the mean time SEAL those damn borders.

    Europe is fine, MGTOW is basically like an immune system to refresh once sh1t gets sick.

    Im not talking about men not getting married, Im talking about men in the london subway watching a women getting beaten from thug after she provoked him, without doing anything about.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Im not talking about men not getting married, Im talking about men in the london subway watching a women getting beaten from thug after she provoked him, without doing anything about.
    On the fucking point.

    People can blame muslim immigrations this, African migrants that.

    But the matter comes down to the white knights and the gynocentric laws they set up and enforce.
    You could have a very different society overnight; but white knights won't allow it.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    On the fucking point.

    People can blame muslim immigrations this, African migrants that.

    But the matter comes down to the white knights and the gynocentric laws they set up and enforce.
    You could have a very different society overnight; but white knights won't allow it.
    Thankfully women are doing any possible thing to piss off white knights and take advantage of those poor suckers who still believe in that shit.

    Internet and independant media will spread the word and those jackasses will think "damn its me".

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    It's a lot easier to get your population to have less children than to get them having more once they have seen the freedom that comes from not having them (or having less).
    Ultimately they will have to bring in young immigrants to make up the shortfall (from where ????) and we all know the problems that come with that.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    It's not about money you propellor-heads.

    Has any policymaker, academic, or economist ever dated? Or did they find a fellow ivory tower nerd soulmate early on and couple up to the point they have no CLUE what goes on between men and women?

    Giving people money assumes money is the primary obstacle to childbirth.

    You have to look at baby-making as a funnel.

    1. At the top of the funnel is: are people dating?
    2. Are the people who are dating, marrying?
    3. Are married couples having kids?


    This last tier is where money matters. But I think if you were to look at the upper two tiers- you'd find more virgins (just like we see in America. This is due to hypergamy- and hence, women sharing a single man.





    So 1st layer of the funnel has problems.

    2nd layer- are they marrying? You can see marriages are down everywhere:


    https://www.pbs.org/wgbh/third-rail/...tting-married/ - US Marriage Rate down
    https://www.scmp.com/news/china/soci...les-say-i-dont - China marriages down

    If people aren't dating, they won't marry. If they're not married, they won't have kids. Offering money changes very little of this.

    There is a broader gender disconnect between men and women as a result of various factors including modernity where men seem less superhuman to women, since women have jobs making similar sums to most men, except the top 10% perhaps. Absent traditionalism and slut-shaming, women regress to only being drawn to men that their hindbrain perceives would "control resources" of the tribe (circa 50,000 BC) -

    https://twitter.com/devonzuegel/stat...75749949673472 - Tinder stat showing 78% of women are drawn primarily to the top 20% of men.


    There seem to be few studies and %'s of how many are dating. This upper-funnel data is crucial and should be collected. If authorities are serious about the problem, each level of the funnel should be measured and the current numbers compared to the past. The solution you'd propose is very different if the greatest negative change was in "% Chinese dating" (upper funnel) versus "Married Couples having fewer children per couple" (lower funnel).

    You have to eval. where in the funnel, the problem is - before you can propose a solution. Otherwise you end up with a random solution like "give 'em more money" and that may have nothing to do with the underlying problem.

    The answer - as we in MGTOW all know - lies in dismantling a kind of social engineering that has pitted women against men. It transcends national borders, because culture is global nowadays; American movies seen everywhere and Internet culture is everywhere. Unfortunately, as we know the CIA has funded feminism, we know that the primary actors who could fix the problem, caused the problem. Whether such forces are at work in China, I don't know.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    I didn't think China has that many women. Going to be tuff to get one. Boy, they are REALLY going to rule the roost!
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    China makes everything else, let them make the babies too!

    We're toast.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    It's not about money you propellor-heads.

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    Giving people money assumes money is the primary obstacle to childbirth.
    Agreed. Most 'couples' if they even think about finances pass it off quickly - we'll manage somehow, after all if others can cope then so can we. The desire to procreate takes precedence, we'll work it out somehow.

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post

    If people aren't dating, they won't marry. If they're not married, they won't have kids. Offering money changes very little of this.
    On this I have to disagree. Many couples today do not get married but that does not mean they do not want kids. What was once known as 'living in sin' is now taken as perfectly normal behaviour and many unmarried couples are raising families.

    But maybe you consider long term relationships where the couple raise kids as being indistinct from formal marriage in which case I withdraw my objection.

    Edit: I don't know what the situation is in China about unmarried couples having children today, but if it isn't the same as in the west today it will be tomorrow. You can hold back technology (and information) only so far, even the Chinese will eventually succumb.
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    It's a lot easier to get your population to have less children than to get them having more once they have seen the freedom that comes from not having them (or having less).
    Ultimately they will have to bring in young immigrants to make up the shortfall (from where ????) and we all know the problems that come with that.
    Where will the Chinese find wives for a generation of wife-less men?

    For the richer Chinese man, wives from the more developed parts of the world. Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Japan, etc.

    From the Chinese diaspora around the world, for the middle class Chinese man.

    For the lower middle class Chinese man, from the sorta-Chinese of Korea (especially North Korea), Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, etc.

    In ten years, China's very rich men will have a new status symbol, the born-in-China, Chinese wife.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Where will the Chinese find wives for a generation of wife-less men?

    For the richer Chinese man, wives from the more developed parts of the world. Kyrgyzstan, Russia, Japan, etc.

    From the Chinese diaspora around the world, for the middle class Chinese man.

    For the lower middle class Chinese man, from the sorta-Chinese of Korea (especially North Korea), Vietnam, Philippines, Malaysia, etc.

    In ten years, China's very rich men will have a new status symbol, the born-in-China, Chinese wife.
    The only problem is that most Asians I've ever encountered are so racist they could make a nazi blush...BUT they are not overt about it. Having mixed race children "offends" the ancestors or something. Look all I know is that the family of the Korean girl I dated years back was appalled at the idea of us marrying and having kids. EVEN though as a German I was part of the #2 of round eyed barbarians---the English were #1. YES they had every nationality and race ranked top to bottom --- guess who was top? Koreans guess who was at the bottom? Yup our darker brothers!

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete View Post
    The only problem is that most Asians I've ever encountered are so racist they could make a nazi blush...BUT they are not overt about it. Having mixed race children "offends" the ancestors or something. Look all I know is that the family of the Korean girl I dated years back was appalled at the idea of us marrying and having kids. EVEN though as a German I was part of the #2 of round eyed barbarians---the English were #1. YES they had every nationality and race ranked top to bottom --- guess who was top? Koreans guess who was at the bottom? Yup our darker brothers!
    Years ago I watched a ski flick about Koreans and their inability to take advice on their skiing, mentioning any criticism even if it's productive criticism is taken as an insult, they have among the highest percentages of injuries for beginners, I think it's from cultural indifference and the laws of nature that dictate "pride goes before the fall!". Then a trip to the first-aid station wrapped up in an orange delivery basket, then off to the trauma center from the helipad!

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    WOW Tower its great to see you are still among the living...haven't heard from you in ages! Actually the Koreans really believe they are a master race designated by God to rule over the rest of humanity. And yes they get REALLY REALLY upset when you point to objective factual evidence that such is not the case. Once you understand this it really becomes a little easier to understand the mentality of the North Koreans and their worship of their leader.

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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    Quote Originally Posted by PistolPete View Post
    WOW Tower its great to see you are still among the living...haven't heard from you in ages! Actually the Koreans really believe they are a master race designated by God to rule over the rest of humanity. And yes they get REALLY REALLY upset when you point to objective factual evidence that such is not the case. Once you understand this it really becomes a little easier to understand the mentality of the North Koreans and their worship of their leader.
    You just can't convince them that a Banzai charge isn't the way to navigate the steeps and out of bounds areas! As a skier, I guess the cliffs and trees make good Korean filters, just empty the meat locker time to time or let the wildlife clean the pit!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Jim01 View Post
    There are now "entertainment" taxes in parts of America so the bachelor taxes are well on the way...
    Entertainment taxes?

    Do you mean on prostitutes?
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    Re: Plan to start baby boom in China by taxing adults under 40

    The real answer for the west as well as China is absolute legal equality. In China, make women responsible for their aging parents just like the men are. In the west, end divorce rape, and rape trial by twitter.

    When I say legal equality, I don't mean trying to engineer equal outcomes. I'm talking old school equality of opportunity. At that point, the strong will float to the top like they are supposed to rather than be buried by the mass of artificially subsidized "empowered" people.


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