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    Young people are cowards...

    I stumbled upon this video (https://www.bitchute.com/video/6iMmakt0cU0/) were it was claimed that young men are cowards and have low testosterone. It is also cited that the average strength of male handshake has dropped, while female handshake has increased slightly its strength.

    Why?

    There is this great TED talk from Amy Cuddy (https://m.youtube.com/watch?v=RVmMeMcGc0Y) that essentially says that your body language (and your own body) reflects your mental state, and vice versa.

    So, I would say young men have no confidence in themselves, and that reflects on their physical and psychological state. And why would they be confident?

    Let me tell you how I grew up: I would stay outside playing unsupervised ever since I was 6 years old. I would run on boulders at the sea-side, risking a fall and a cracked skull (not that you would think about it). I would fight with other kids, throw rocks at them, and any adult would put a stop to it if they witnessed it; yet my parent would not defend me because I was acting bad.
    My worst problems was in school with female teachers that were generally unfair. Some idiots would involve the teacher against us, but usually we could solve issues between ourselves. A black eye, some bruises and even broken teeth might and did happen.

    Now kids are constantly supervised. The overall suspicion from society is that something horribly wrong is going to happen, either by their own hand or by others. That impacts the kid's self-confidence, they do no trust themselves, neither they feel safe.
    The state and schools are constantly interfering with family lives. Unsupervised kids might be taken away. Any "wrong" action involves authorities, and even police and courts.

    You have a little kid, a weak defenseless being without support, and it is threatened by incomprehensible forces (to him) that are enough to scare adults (https://www.mgtow.tv/watch/8-year-ol...3wsny3Gys.html).
    And parents feel the need to constantly protect their kids from anything that migth happen, sometimes generating the opposite effect: raising kids that have no concept of consequences from their actions, expecting to be handed what they want or need, counting on being always protected.

    What do you expect?

    What you get is people that are always scared of doing anything wrong, or constantly protected from the outcomes of their actions.
    What you get is people that never grew up.

    It is not their fault. It is the inevitable result of what this dying society does.

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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Disassociation from the consequences of their actions is exactly what’s happening.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    The overall suspicion from society is that something horribly wrong is going to happen, either by their own hand or by others. That impacts the kid's self-confidence, they do no trust themselves, neither they feel safe.
    Absolutely.

    One of my first posts here was about this very thing. MSM and some politicians want you to be afraid. Now sometimes this is warranted, but for the most part it’s a control mechanism.

    Fear on an individual level is an emotional state, sometimes good (protection) sometimes bad (irrational decisions) but when it is inflicted by rhetoric from others rather than observation it is inevitably bad. You ARE being manipulated!

    Trust what you see. Not on video or Utube or on the news but what you witness personally. These things can be informative but only up to a point. There always seems to be an agenda.
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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    Now kids are constantly supervised. The overall suspicion from society is that something horribly wrong is going to happen, either by their own hand or by others. That impacts the kid's self-confidence, they do no trust themselves, neither they feel safe.
    The state and schools are constantly interfering with family lives. Unsupervised kids might be taken away. Any "wrong" action involves authorities, and even police and courts.

    What do you expect?
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    Not everyone lives in America.
    I suspect nothing you wrote applies to non-white children in America either.
    But if you were only writing about white children in America, I would probably agree with you.

    My kid was out in the road playing unsupervised since he was 3 years old (8 now), the nearest householder would go out and deal with any screams/injuries.
    Since age 6 he's mainly chosen to play inside on the computer and watch Youtube cartoons.
    No restrictions from me, but it's a walled and gated community and the gate guards won't let children pass.
    The state here doesn't impose any restrictions, he goes to school standing in the foot-well of our scooter, no helmet.
    Once he's big enough to reach the controls, normally around age 12-14, he'll probably drive himself.
    The police don't interact with children driving scooters, no license, helmet, tax, insurance is the norm.
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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Most people are cowards nowadays. Just look at how the world is reacting to Covid-19 when it was clear months ago that it's no worse than a flu season that only kills sick 85 year olds. Life has got so safe and comfortable any little disturbance results in mass hysteria.

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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    To enjoy life's greatest joys you have to know the worst of the darkness that lies out there.

    Iron sharpens iron and if you have no guidance that explains why so many young adults are lost and that is true for a lot of young men. Young men are sent mixed signals on purpose. As others have already said in this thread it is by design to keep people dazed and confused so they can't have a laser focus and employ critical thinking skills to question everything.

    If this year hasn't shown that then you might as well be living in a cave. Experts that know as much as us common folk and experts that do not face consequences for their mistakes or lies.

    No accountability = Fibers of civilization slowly withers away.

    This is what happens with a gynocentric society that refuses to hold any accountability.

    We learn from our mistakes, we learn from being held accountable when we are in the wrong. and we learn from hardship.

    There is no appreciation of the good in this world when the world view is a safe space.

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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Uhm lets put sheeps in charge to train lion and be free to punish anytime they try only to roar the few years later lets all complain that lions no longer hunt or fight...or fvck.

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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Let me tell you how I grew up: I would stay outside playing unsupervised ever since I was 6 years old. I would run on boulders at the sea-side, risking a fall and a cracked skull (not that you would think about it). I would fight with other kids, throw rocks at them, and any adult would put a stop to it if they witnessed it; yet my parent would not defend me because I was acting bad.
    My worst problems was in school with female teachers that were generally unfair. Some idiots would involve the teacher against us, but usually we could solve issues between ourselves. A black eye, some bruises and even broken teeth might and did happen.
    Well in my case, my parents were over-protective; but also highly neglectful - which made me into an overly sensitive individual and very prone to depression.

    In the case of mothers, I think they want to raise weak men - reason is they need them to be good slaves for the gynocracy and take care of them when they grow old.

    Now kids are constantly supervised. The overall suspicion from society is that something horribly wrong is going to happen, either by their own hand or by others. That impacts the kid's self-confidence, they do no trust themselves, neither they feel safe.
    The state and schools are constantly interfering with family lives. Unsupervised kids might be taken away. Any "wrong" action involves authorities, and even police and courts.
    Correct, but I would like to add something as a man from the Arab world.

    This is something which I consider a good thing in the west. I do not think it should go as far as say... forcing parents to accept their son/daughter attending classes on homosexuality.

    I think parent should have that right to pull their children out of such classes; if they want.

    BUT, do not forget that the reason the state has accumulated so much power in the western world is partly due to irresponsible parents.

    I mean you actually have parents who never even ask their child about his homework - not even once. This was the case for me - and it has caused me a huge amount of pain.

    My parents also abused me, physical and verbal. In the Middle East - this is completely normal and sometimes encourage - which is a testament to how backward the society is there.

    In the west - social services wouldn't allow that - siding with the child; as they should in my opinion.


    What do you expect?

    What you get is people that are always scared of doing anything wrong, or constantly protected from the outcomes of their actions.
    What you get is people that never grew up.

    It is not their fault. It is the inevitable result of what this dying society does.
    Yes, especially men now are in a state of complete infantilism and boyishness.

    But please sir do remember - living in a city like London - more than 50% of your wages goes on rent - and you have to consider living with parents til an old age - so it isn't just a matter of upbringing.

    Since the government and rich folk don't want. more homes being built - especially cheap, affordable modern homes, then people will continue to live with their parents - which is a sure fire way for them to stay infantile.

    Society is set-up so that a boy does not graduate into manhood - everything from the way building are constructed, to the hormone infested foods, the laws, the customs are all to suppress that instinct of a healthy young man to conquer and dominate his surroundings.

    As long as that exists, you can forget about masculinity - it is already long gone.

    Out of all the above, I think the gynocentric laws which need to be overturned are the reason there are many boys and not men.

    After all; this is an issue which is, at its' core a psychological issue.

    Psychological warfare is wages on the average man from a very young age - and he has been so domesticated - he cannot see through it.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    I agree with the general issue pointed out in this thread and not much to add on it. But as others have pointed out, yeah there are many different situations in different societies which lead to these problems.

    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    I would run on boulders at the sea-side, risking a fall and a cracked skull (not that you would think about it). I would fight with other kids, throw rocks at them...
    I grew up in a densely populated urban city in India: Delhi. The people and homes are packed up like cockroaches. I wont mention any beaches because its an inland city, but lets talk about other places where you can go and play with other kids (or just go out for a jog/walk when grown up).

    It can be parks... uhh... well, once you enter such parks you will realize that its SUPER crowded. You throw a ball to someone and the other person wont even know whose ball it is, cuz 5 other groups around you are also playing with that same kind of ball. Or you can play on streets. With dense traffic, and vehicles parked on the side, animal (and sometimes human) feces lying here and there, bad drainage, and still lots of people walking around.

    I only get space to walk around and not feel suffocated due to overcrowding, is when I go to some paid sports complex or something. And that too at odd times. You cant go there at "standard" times like early morning or late evening, cuz it will again be CROWDED !! Sadly these places are closed due to this stupid virus with the ability to supposedly depopulate the entire planet. So the best place to walk is... either I go out at REALLY ODD time, or just walk inside my home. There is more breathing room indoors than outdoors.
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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    I agree with the general issue pointed out in this thread and not much to add on it. But as others have pointed out, yeah there are many different situations in different societies which lead to these problems.



    I grew up in a densely populated urban city in India: Delhi. The people and homes are packed up like cockroaches. I wont mention any beaches because its an inland city, but lets talk about other places where you can go and play with other kids (or just go out for a jog/walk when grown up).

    It can be parks... uhh... well, once you enter such parks you will realize that its SUPER crowded. You throw a ball to someone and the other person wont even know whose ball it is, cuz 5 other groups around you are also playing with that same kind of ball. Or you can play on streets. With dense traffic, and vehicles parked on the side, animal (and sometimes human) feces lying here and there, bad drainage, and still lots of people walking around.

    I only get space to walk around and not feel suffocated due to overcrowding, is when I go to some paid sports complex or something. And that too at odd times. You cant go there at "standard" times like early morning or late evening, cuz it will again be CROWDED !! Sadly these places are closed due to this stupid virus with the ability to supposedly depopulate the entire planet. So the best place to walk is... either I go out at REALLY ODD time, or just walk inside my home. There is more breathing room indoors than outdoors.
    You need some time in Rockies or Wasatch range out west, or the green and white mountains of New England, preferably on a snowmobile or skis breaking open back country trails after a heavy snowfall, you're the only one around for miles and miles.

    One time I raced to the isolated peak of little Killington mtn at dusk, risking certain death from climbing a snow cornice ridge and going over the edge, or exposure if I failed the climb and got stuck, stupidest stunt I ever pulled in my life, but worth it! 160 hp. and whipped every pony to get there! On the ride back down I realized what I had done and how stupid it was as the brakes were barely holding as I slid down the steep parts I couldn't believe I climbed in the first place! God was on my side going up! After that I took over by cautiously and steadily maintaining control so I could get back to civilization WITH my snowmobile.

    Can't you go to the Himalayas? You guys got south facing Himalayas, at least it's warmer than north slope! Or is China scoffing your only retreat? Good way to get some burn holes in their troops, huh?
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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Can't you go to the Himalayas? You guys got south facing Himalayas, at least it's warmer than north slope!
    Hmmm, sounds good, in theory atleast...



    No thanks... I'll pass.

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    You need some time in Rockies or Wasatch range out west, or the green and white mountains of New England, preferably on a snowmobile or skis breaking open back country trails after a heavy snowfall, you're the only one around for miles and miles.

    One time I raced to the isolated peak of little Killington mtn at dusk, risking certain death from climbing a snow cornice ridge and going over the edge, or exposure if I failed the climb and got stuck, stupidest stunt I ever pulled in my life, but worth it! 160 hp. and whipped every pony to get there! On the ride back down I realized what I had done and how stupid it was as the brakes were barely holding as I slid down the steep parts I couldn't believe I climbed in the first place! God was on my side going up! After that I took over by cautiously and steadily maintaining control so I could get back to civilization WITH my snowmobile.
    All kinds of those places is pretty much a fairy tale for me.

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Good way to get some burn holes in their troops, huh?
    Assuming I understood that correctly, even more fairy'er tale is owning the equipment to send high speed love letters in FMJ...
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    That reminds me of Belize city motor scooter madness, where the gasoline isn't as refined, has more pop, and smells like a rolling tar kettle! Good go-go juice when the refineries aren't hamstrung with environmental regulations! I bet Nigeria has good go-go juice, they have black market stuff made in backyard refineries on the delta! Real live Gas Pirates! My kinda people!

    More bang for the buck! ARRR!

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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Kids today have their asses kissed all the time and are never wrong. Kids can treat people like shit, insult, scream at, and even assault others and they get excuses made for their behaviors. They then become entitled adults just like the protesters. They don't get their way? Scream, destroy, and hurt people until you get your way! I'm so tired of it.

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    Re: Young people are cowards...

    Short answer: Masculinity today is considered toxic.

    Long answer: This generation, boys are primarily raised by women. The primary caretaker is raised by a woman... a single mom. Thanks to feminism, men are no longer needed to raise a boy. Thus, boys are raised without a father figure. With no man in their life, boys tend to think by emotion instead of masculine traits such as being competitive, logical, and aggressive. Hello testosterone! This is the reason why sports today does not have 1st place and now replaced with participation trophies. Because of "feelings", society doesn't want the losers to feel bad. So boys think being mediocre or less is acceptable. With women, they are raised with masculine traits. Girl Power and girls can do everything a man can do in high heels! Case in point: today's sitcoms. It's the woman that is smart and while the weak husband is weak-subservient-idiot!


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