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    Re: Paradoxes

    No Trespassing is my answer and pathology to all this unleashed social madness. Wildlife is now held in higher regard than human life and that's is the final straw to any self preserving individual!
    Nice post but this particular bit caught my attention. I notice, again speaking from a Middle Eastern perspective that animals are so valued in western culture. Especially this is true in England. It seems like animal lives are worth so much, even more than human life.

    Especially more than male human life!

    Can someone elaborate why is this such a prevalent thing in western culture? There seems to be such care taken towards animals, nature environment and no care towards human beings.

    You would never see someone in the Middle East advocate "kill yourself, save the planet" like some environmentalists do in the west. I have seen such placards with my own eyes on the streets of London.

    Sounds like some death wish cult if you ask me.
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    Re: Paradoxes

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Nice post but this particular bit caught my attention. I notice, again speaking from a Middle Eastern perspective that animals are so valued in western culture. Especially this is true in England. It seems like animal lives are worth so much, even more than human life.

    Especially more than male human life!

    Can someone elaborate why is this such a prevalent thing in western culture? There seems to be such care taken towards animals, nature environment and no care towards human beings.

    You would never see someone in the Middle East advocate "kill yourself, save the planet" like some environmentalists do in the west. I have seen such placards with my own eyes on the streets of London.

    Sounds like some death wish cult if you ask me.
    I sure dunno, I don't brake for animals, I like to run them over and rate my success! Skull crush! 50 points!

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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    I sure dunno, I don't brake for animals, I like to run them over and rate my success! Skull crush! 50 points!
    Oooh. How could you be so cruel? /sarc

    I dunno either. Best guess: we tend to anthropomorphize animals to a large extent. We take pets into our homes where they shit & piss & shed hair everywhere and yet we treat them like members of the family. Hell we even talk to them.
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    Oooh. How could you be so cruel? /sarc

    I dunno either. Best guess: we tend to anthropomorphize animals to a large extent. We take pets into our homes where they shit & piss & shed hair everywhere and yet we treat them like members of the family. Hell we even talk to them.
    Poodles don't shed, and when we talk to them (unlike cats) they know their names and they listen, and that's more than I ever got from a woman, therefore the only advantage women have over a dog is they don't shed, but if you want my advice, don't get a woman, get a poodle.

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    Poodles are gay. They are just like women. They are high maintenance and require their asses to be pampered.

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Poodles don't shed, and when we talk to them (unlike cats) they know their names and they listen, and that's more than I ever got from a woman, therefore the only advantage women have over a dog is they don't shed, but if you want my advice, don't get a woman, get a poodle.


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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    Poodles are gay. They are just like women. They are high maintenance and require their asses to be pampered.
    So many poodles we see are like that but as a boy my family had one and I saw that they are very smart and also they become how you treat them. I later got a poodle for myself and raised him to be a hippie dog. Not nervous, not yappy, not high maintenance. Very laid back and cool. Completely defied the stereotype. I liked that. And no shedding. Even better. I told the groomer to clip him without shaving to the skin, don't ball his tail. None of that FiFi dog show stuff. I never thought of him as a sissy dog. Once, when I picked him up from the groomer, they had put ribbons in his ears and I told them they gotta come off because I can't relate to my dog like that. They were stereotyping my dog. He was the coolest dog, I gotta say. I am convinced it's all how you raise them. Maybe the nervous yappy ones pick up vibes from their female owners, as they are sensitive to their owners. Maybe I got lucky. I dunno. I just treated mine evenly.

    One time, I had my back to him and I heard him bark out my name. I jerked my head around and stared at him, mouth agape. WTF? Call me crazy, but that happened. I have read of others who have claimed as much from their dogs.

    I had him for 15 1/2 years. Ha, the longest relationship I've ever had.
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    Re: Paradoxes

    I've always had poodles, my brother and I bred them, I have one of two that can stand or sit in my hand, he's under 4 lbs and thinks he's a pit-bull! They truly have the most character of any dog I've known, they each have their own personalities with a preset assortment of talents, it's up the the owner to seek and bring out the dog's hidden talents, and no two are the same. The pit-bull wannabe will eat anything in front of him, whereas the other turns his nose up to pepperoni wishing it were steak! He also chews his food and eats slow, the other chokes allot from woofing it down!
    Dogs have something most people lack, and that's loyalty!

    You want something that's until death do you part?

    Get a dog!
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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    One time, I had my back to him and I heard him bark out my name. I jerked my head around and stared at him, mouth agape. WTF? Call me crazy, but that happened. I have read of others who have claimed as much from their dogs.
    Dog stories that make you sound crazy? I’ve got one too from many years ago, back in the day when pet dogs were allowed to roam the streets alone. My brother’s pet mongrel used to jump about the room in excitement when you asked him if he wanted to go out – he understood the question, but that’s not the story.

    One day he got into a fight with another dog down the street and for weeks after he wouldn’t leave the house except to do his business and would come straight back in. The poor thing was terrified to go out.

    Anyway, I was visiting one evening and when I was told of this I tested it for myself.

    Me to dog:

    “Do you want to go out?” – no response.
    “Do you want to go out?” – no response.
    “Do you want to go out with me?” – He immediately began jumping around the room again.

    Seems he understood the “with me” bit without it ever being said to him before so it wasn’t a learned response.

    They’re much smarter than we usually give them credit for.
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    Re: Paradoxes

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Dogs have something most people lack, and that's loyalty!

    You want something that's until death do you part?

    Get a dog!
    I prefer cats.

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    I had him for 15 1/2 years. Ha, the longest relationship I've ever had.
    I had a cat that was 16 years old. Died 2 weeks after his 16th birthday. He was so loyal and loving. When he was a year and a half, he escaped and came back 9 months later. He knew he was loved!!

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    Re: Paradoxes

    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    I prefer cats.



    I had a cat that was 16 years old. Died 2 weeks after his 16th birthday. He was so loyal and loving. When he was a year and a half, he escaped and came back 9 months later. He knew he was loved!!
    9 months later? Are you sure it was the same cat?
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    Quote Originally Posted by MGTOWFOREVER View Post
    When he was a year and a half, he escaped and came back 9 months later. He knew he was loved!!
    Within a week of moving to Phoenix, my dog got out while I was at at work. Phoenix is spread out across the valley and I learned the entire valley area real quick as I visited repeatedly the several dog pounds in all corners of the valley. I had the phone company nicely forward interstate my old number to my new number as my old number was on the dog tag. I posted signs, the works. Two weeks later, got my dog back. Was doggie happy to see me? Can't say. Like I said, laid back, no reaction. Dammit, I was hoping for a Lassie reunion.

    Moved to Seattle, he soon got out again. More signs on telephone poles. Got calls, a few sightings, nobody captured him. Found him in the bad-ass neighborhood just truckin' along in the wide open. I was more scared of that neighborhood than my fucking poodle! Shit, put the ribbons in my hair! LOL

    But, back to the topic:

    Can someone elaborate why is this such a prevalent thing in western culture? There seems to be such care taken towards animals, nature environment and no care towards human beings.
    I can't say, except the health care system for human beings is its own course and then you have the ASPCA always doing its thing unobtrusively in the background over the years and never intending to overlap or compete with human health care as that would be weird. Then along comes those animal lovers who try to ramp things up (remember throwing paint on ladies in public wearing fur coats?) and the attention it gets and then you have the monkey-see-monkey-do crowd who also won't take the unobtrusive approach and then let's throw in the mix the lack of censure from society which only encourages the nutjob(s) in any collection of people to step forward with their next crazy idea because once you start this stuff it would be a boring resignation to return to the slow boat of civility.

    The health care system for humans is still plodding along at its pace while the animal advocates have found a new normal for themselves of getting heard and boy isn't it exciting and they just have to think of new things to say as the years go by. And then a concern for animals eclipses concern for humans. So we had it happen years ago that an animal advocacy group put out a statement that if driving a car and losing control and are in the unfortunate choice of careening into a human or careening into a dog, they recommended hitting the human because the human will heal but the dog would get killed. Imagine getting yourself to where that makes obvious sense to you. But there was some pushback on that one. I can't google to find it.

    Ok, I just let all of that roll out of my head, not a well-thought out response to you.

    Have I yet introduced the internet into my above screed, where everybody is a star?

    There's a new breed (ha, a pun) of animal rights extremists. I was reading recently of a group called DxE and their methods of breaking laws. Here's a video:

    Animal Rights Extremists: Trespassing to “Save” Chickens

    They break laws because they can, and because they get their way incrementally. Like mass civil disobedience.
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    Re: Paradoxes

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    9 months later? Are you sure it was the same cat?
    Yes. He had special markings on him that made him very easily identifiable.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    They break laws because they can, and because they get their way incrementally. Like mass civil disobedience.
    The head kiddie, right at the end of the vid comes out with a classic line:

    "We don't see ourselves as rule breakers, we see ourselves as rule makers."

    Nice twist to make it seem like they are the good guys when they are disrupting the livelihoods of many others; not only the farmers, but those that they supply and the the final consumers.

    For the most part those chickens looked well and healthy, but as the farmer says animals are animals and sometimes shit happens.
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    Re: Paradoxes

    Looks like Texas is the place to have a poultry farm, only because it's lawful to shoot people for criminal trespass and theft of property.

    In Tower world, chickens would be clearing the bowels of freshly shot protesters! WIN WIN!
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