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    Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    Always have to preface my remarks: not looking for the "all women are (negative expression") response.

    I don't use Facebook regularly but once a year I may check up on people I went to school with, etc. I couldn't help but notice that the good girls, the genuinely decent ones, seemed to be most likely to be single. There were several, but two in particular I recall as a bit shy. Maybe didn't know how to let a guy know they're interested. With one, I only found out she was interested in me after graduation by her ex-roommate. With the other, I was dating her friend a while and always thought she was cute and surprised she was never with someone.

    Putting aside our own preferences of not being interested in marriage (or for some LTR, etc.), just from an objective point of view- is it worth asking whether men TOO are part of the problem in this gender disconnect. We know women are obsessed with "players" usually out of their league; they shun good men. But are good men and the rest shunning actually good women?

    Could it be that good women have traditional expectations related to men approaching them, etc. even though that convention has been upended. Could it be the Game is so fucked up that both good men and good women are getting screwed?

    Throwing it out there for discussion and hope I get some thoughtful responses (besides "forget them all! they're bitches!").

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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    I live in Mexico and here you can still find all type of women, you can even buy a wife in some towns. What can I say? You can't predict the beheavior of an individual but you can predict the beheavior of a group and yes, women are AWALT as a group but there is still good women left

    The problem is, innocent woman is not a good example, in the moment a good and innocent woman open his legs she probably will become an AWALT, when i was young i was atractive, one of the alphas of my group and many girls like me and i date some innocent girls, almost or no experience, virgins, cute, the type of girl who can't see you without blushing and avoid your eyes, but then after you open his world and his legs those girls change, first the sex becomes more "wild" (no really but it's more wild for her) and risky, then she want to go out more and do new things and in the end you are not good enough for her, the relationship ends and the next thing you know is how she becomes popular because she fuck an alpha and she is a slut sleeping around with many people and trying new things (in short she drink or do drugs a lot and she sleep with at least 1 more person in the next weeks if she have a boyfriend or several if she stay single, also including probably some girls and some trios or who know how many dicks when drunk in a party). That is the problem of good girls, the moment you take the innocence (physical or intelectual) she will become a wild card.

    But still i know at least 2 real good women, actually my best friend at the moment is a woman, we meet some months ago by luck and she is the best friend i find in years, we go out and try new things all the time, like museums, drink beer, events, expos, parachuting, new food or book hunting, we can talk about everything without fight, we don't always share the same opinion but we respect each other point of view, sometimes i pay, sometimes she pays, not because we must but because we want to, our most expensive meal was on her (rare meats like lion, cocodrile, insects and others) and most of the time we split the bill, she have a master degree, buys his own house, invertions (his own money not family money), travel around the world and she is younger, of course she is not perfect, not an unicorn, and of course there is nothing sexual but as a friend she is far better that my old friends always complaying about everything and acting like old dudes only thinking in the past. The other is a normal frienship but still, she is great, i think it's because she have a very hard life, again, not a unicorn but a real good person.

    Now about if men are part of the problem, of course, probably 50% is men fault with all those blue pillers making woman delutional with attention and putting women in pedestals like goddess, also if women want Chad most men wants AWALT's because him want to recue and protect that poor woman (captain save a hoe), in the end almost all people in this world is delutional, woman delitional and entitled because betas provide lots of attention, blue pill men are delutional because them believe in the hollywood dream of all woman are perfect and him must be a creep begging for attention.

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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    Are there good women? Yes, objectively, there are good women out there by every definition of the word. Mixed in with the crazies and the fraked up specimens of humanity.

    However, as MGTOW, I don't believe we have anything against women, just getting into a committed relationship with women. Who could change as a result of the stresses of childbirth, and raising a family, and consequently divorce raping her husband whom she loves, but instinct and emotion override that love. Not to mention the lack of freedom once a man has put that ring on it. MGTOW value that freedom too much, and coupled with the risk of state sanction divorce rape, men are just saying no to that.

    Is the game fucked up? Maybe. But is that a bad thing? I'm not sure, I love this freedom to not have to be married in order to be a man. I have plans to pursue my combat training and LARP and write a book etc ... And all because I no longer have a duty to be married to anyone. So whether the dating game being fucked is negative is a matter that rests on the fence, but is tilting alarmingly into the positive side in my book.

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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    I think we have kind of chosen to be part of the problem. With so much male bashing everywhere for so long, it seems many of us have just thrown the whole chivalry book out the window, while some good women out there are still expecting it from us.

    Good women will miss out on good men because of a few retarded feminists. That sounds about right.

    It's not just feminists though. It's their laws and whole system geared towards rewarding single mothers and divorce courts. Good women WILL lose with this in place... and i think that is the point of the whole 'marriage strike' in the first place, to starve the beast. Normal women must suffer under the new rules of feminism or they will never reject and remove it.

    Personally, i am just irritated by the whole idea of love, relationships and women. Been there, done that, bought the t-shirt. Although some younger men at work may look up to me for not getting married, they probably should at least get out there and give some woman the benefit of the doubt. They dont because of what they have seen in real life from their own parents and dont ever want to be in that position. It is like stereotyping all women as takers. Maybe wrong, but self preservation defeats everything else these days. Money and freedom rule the newer generations, they are more informed than the men of my generation via the internet and the dysfunction of so many parents. This fills me with despair and hope at the same time.. not sure what you'd call that. I'm glad that young men are doing what is good for them, and at the same time, sad that the nuclear family model is not coming back.

    I think we choose to be part of the problem because the alternative is to keep beating a dead horse to death again and again. Younger men see the dead horse, and find there's no point in beating it at all.

    If anyone missed it, the dead horse in this metaphor is 'marriage'.
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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    At age 40 I became the summer boyfriend of a 24 year old college kid. Said she loved me when she graduated, but I had trouble believing it. Farway didn't lie, or to my knowledge run around behind my back. But after three years, she remained as secretive and elusive as a five pound trout. I really knew very little about her. The awful truth was she'd rather die than fess up, but I stupidly figured she didn't care that much.

    We broke up, but remained friends. She moved away, and five years later killed herself. Two more years, and cancer gets my old man, the WWII POW. That's when life got strange. One morning I'm wondering for the thousandth time what made Farway tick. Then it hit me like a ton a bricks. Started seeing similarity's in Faraway's and the POW's personality's. Things they wasn't born with, but both had. Stuff I never saw when either was alive. Though outwardly very different, inside they were two peas in a pod.

    So, you have a 24 year old woman with the mental outlook of a guy who just walked out of a prison camp. You know a person don't get that way cause the wrong guy asked them to the prom. Since these people communicate different from so called normal people, and knowing the old man backwards, I knew in a second that Farway really did love me. But thinking she was halfway normal, and judging her that way, I couldn't see it. Biggest fuck up of my life, and there have been many.


    So frog had a NAWALT and blew it. You going to find one? Who knows, they are awful rare. But don't tell me they don't exist. Sad part is, I was trained from birth to cater to just such a personality. Could of taken care of her and she'd never known I was doing it. That's why she loved me. But I couldn't see it.
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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    Yes good men and women are being overlooked. Both genders are guilty of doing so. I've noticed that today's instant gratification mindset is a big part of it.

    To me too many people rush/force a relationship. Then in a matter of weeks....that's right weeks, are packing boxes and moving in together. in no time at all it goes to shit. We now have a man who thinks women are shit. Plus a woman who has proven to herself that men are jerks.

    I have witnessed this with 4 coworkers. 2 men and 2 women. The longest of these instant relationships was about 18 months. The shortest less than 6 months. Can you even imagine packing your shit up and moving in. To only be packing it out 6 months later? Fucking insane. Yet it happens pretty often.

    I would push further that good men or women are not quite as rare as unicorns. However finding someone who is a good person, that you click with, and want to have sex with is not very easy. You have to get lotto winner lucky to find one. Or put in the dating work. Dating is work no doubt about it. Nobody wants to do it. You need to pick up a million sea shells off the beach to find a pearl. Who the fuck wants to do that?

    Social media and society also pressures people into these instant relationships. You don't have a man or a woman? (Gasp! and Horror's!!) What's wrong with you? Are you gay? Do you want to die alone? That's the kind of shit that comes your way as part of being single. For either gender.

    Dating or hanging out does not have to be costly. If the woman won't be with you if you're not spending your cash, even better. Move right along. No need to dig further to understand her motives. Spending time with someone who interests you is the only way. A person can only bluff or hide their true self for so long. Being around them in many different circumstances lets you see how they act and react. Glimpses of the real person pop out here and there over time.

    Part of my problem in the past was ignoring those glimpses of the woman's true self. When a stressful situation caused her to drop her guard and act real. The hotter looking the woman. The more I ignored or excused. Notice I said in the past. I am a man who learn's from his mistakes.
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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    But are good men and the rest shunning actually good women?
    How are you supposed to tell? If there was a distinctive way that you could pick a good woman, all the bad ones in no time would be faking it. I was thinking about using a fast food/eating right analogy, but the problem is that getting married is something that you only want to do once. Getting it wrong once is a life-ruining fail.

    Why didn't it use to be this way? Because our societies had ways of getting young people hitched together by their various families.

    Another issue is that society used to force women to be (relatively) good wives. And men to be relatively good husbands, for that matter. There used to be laws about adultery, nonsupport. Divorces used to be difficult to get, that whole "till death do us part" thing got enforced.

    Another factor: I was a nice christian young man, and I can tell you that top of the list motivation for a nice christian young man to get married is sex. In a world where pretty much everyone is doing it without the bother of needing to be married, there's just no reason for getting married. Sad, but true.

    Are the good women being shunned? Unfortunately, yes. All half-dozen of them.

    And I have found a woman more bitter than death, who is the hunter's snare, and her heart is a net, and her hands are bands. He that pleaseth God shall escape from her: but he that is a sinner, shall be caught by her. Lo this have I found, said Ecclesiastes, weighing one thing after another, that I might find out the account, Which yet my soul seeketh, and I have not found it. One man among a thousand I have found, a woman among them all I have not found.

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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    The best woman is still as weaponized to fuck over a man as the worst woman. And marriage, well, that can bring out the worst in any woman (or man for that matter).

    I don't waste time wondering about the emotional state of the expressionless person in front of me with the big gun. I turn and run and leave that for someone else to worry about.

    It's not the person, it's the gun their given. Guns give immediate power, and power gives people a whole new set of choices as to how to deal with you.
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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    Quote Originally Posted by chbedok View Post
    Are there good women? Yes, objectively, there are good women out there by every definition of the word. Mixed in with the crazies and the fraked up specimens of humanity.

    However, as MGTOW, I don't believe we have anything against women, just getting into a committed relationship with women. Who could change as a result of the stresses of childbirth, and raising a family, and consequently divorce raping her husband whom she loves, but instinct and emotion override that love. Not to mention the lack of freedom once a man has put that ring on it. MGTOW value that freedom too much, and coupled with the risk of state sanction divorce rape, men are just saying no to that.

    Is the game fucked up? Maybe. But is that a bad thing? I'm not sure, I love this freedom to not have to be married in order to be a man. I have plans to pursue my combat training and LARP and write a book etc ... And all because I no longer have a duty to be married to anyone. So whether the dating game being fucked is negative is a matter that rests on the fence, but is tilting alarmingly into the positive side in my book.
    Women cant really love the man himself . Its some other subtle things .

    Whats your weight division ? Maybe you wanna fight ?

    And what is LARP, its a throat doctor , right ?

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    The 'good ones' still have the option at any time to use the full power of the state to destroy the man they are with.

    She's a good one? She's a good one you hand a loaded gun to and then ask her not to pull the trigger ever.

    She's a 'good one right now'. Is that a mask or is that really her?

    Marry her and find out if she is truly a good one and the only way to find out is to hope she never grows unhappy or bored and never blames him for any of it, but she can, and other women will let her know she can, and validate that for her nearly every time too. If someone does not, she can easily find a venue that will validate her choice to fuck over the man she is with.

    The truly good ones - whatever, will just have to suffer for what women, in general, have done. Are they victims too? Well sure they are. They are women after all, and every woman can choose to be a victim whenever she wants.


    I said something along these lines in another post...
    There are no right women. Women can choose to 'be like that' any time they wish, even if they do not seem 'like that' right now.

    Men do not 'choose the wrong one'. There is not a right one to choose.

    NAWALT AWALT - Meh.

    Enough women are like that already.

    Women can choose to be like that any time they wish...
    ...and governmental policy, the legal system behind that, and society will support her in her decision to be like that.

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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    Quote Originally Posted by O.G. View Post
    Yes good men and women are being overlooked. Both genders are guilty of doing so. I've noticed that today's instant gratification mindset is a big part of it.

    To me too many people rush/force a relationship. Then in a matter of weeks....that's right weeks, are packing boxes and moving in together. in no time at all it goes to shit. We now have a man who thinks women are shit. Plus a woman who has proven to herself that men are jerks.

    I have witnessed this with 4 coworkers. 2 men and 2 women. The longest of these instant relationships was about 18 months. The shortest less than 6 months. Can you even imagine packing your shit up and moving in. To only be packing it out 6 months later? Fucking insane. Yet it happens pretty often.

    I would push further that good men or women are not quite as rare as unicorns. However finding someone who is a good person, that you click with, and want to have sex with is not very easy. You have to get lotto winner lucky to find one. Or put in the dating work. Dating is work no doubt about it. Nobody wants to do it. You need to pick up a million sea shells off the beach to find a pearl. Who the fuck wants to do that?

    Social media and society also pressures people into these instant relationships. You don't have a man or a woman? (Gasp! and Horror's!!) What's wrong with you? Are you gay? Do you want to die alone? That's the kind of shit that comes your way as part of being single. For either gender.

    Dating or hanging out does not have to be costly. If the woman won't be with you if you're not spending your cash, even better. Move right along. No need to dig further to understand her motives. Spending time with someone who interests you is the only way. A person can only bluff or hide their true self for so long. Being around them in many different circumstances lets you see how they act and react. Glimpses of the real person pop out here and there over time.

    Part of my problem in the past was ignoring those glimpses of the woman's true self. When a stressful situation caused her to drop her guard and act real. The hotter looking the woman. The more I ignored or excused. Notice I said in the past. I am a man who learn's from his mistakes.
    I've paid my dues to earn the wisdom I now have.

    I go my own way. I have a very accomplished and good woman as a girlfriend. I live in my house. She lives in hers. I've seen it described as a LAT relationship in the media. As in Living apart together. Works for me and her.
    Even women, especially that run their own lives know , that its a fucking war to find a human .

    One of my best 3 friends called me yesterday to hang out , out of nowhere . Just to borrow money from my parents to fix his car .


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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    perhaps the "good" women (assuming there is such a thing these days... with me they're "NST"-- No Such Thing) are part of the "silent majority".... and since they're silent, most men would regard them as cohorts of feminism by association..
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    Yes there are women that are overlooked.

    I have done it on several occasions, but I was also not ready for a LTR at an earlier stage of my life with these women. So, I viewed it from a point of view of not being selfish and holding down these women from pursuing greater and bigger things beyond what I could provide in terms of time investment not necessarily about money.

    The old saying that a man seeks his level holds merit, which is why it is often used in the PUA community. However, I have pointed this out before, but women that are too good to be true tend to be more friendlier than women at or below my SMV level. So, sometimes a man has a hard time believing a woman that is high caliber is actually genuinely interested. Much harder for me to recognize in my younger days, but as I grow older my confidence increases. And with that increased confidence I can pin point when women are interested in me and when people in general are also interested in listening to what I have to say.

    Life is a great teacher and with one hundred failures can only one success come eventually.

    This is why I am open to a LTR with a women that shows genuine interest, but I am not going to force it either. Interesting side note is that the genuinely good women out there respect men that treat them as adults and hold them accountable.

    With that all said relationship dynamics are full of pitfalls and subtle nuances that have to be deciphered on the fly which can be challenging and often difficult to consider from a cost benefit analysis. I still try because if I am having fun then why not? I am aware of the risks and I know what I can and can't do in current dating climate. But I look at it from the point of view of enjoyment for myself more so than entertaining other women. If a PUA wants to call that self amusement so be it, but I have been a self starter since a little lad.

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    Interesting thread. I think I may have actually found a decent one, and it IS hard to see. From my perspective, it's really just pump and dump because so many are just not worth it, and so my view on them has been skewed heavily because of that fact. Enter this female from Tinder, now I have no idea why she was on Tinder and I thought it was a joke when her profile said she was "12,000 km's away", because i am in Canuckistan, so why would she do that? As it turns out she hated the tinder experience, and especially the sex, dick pics, ONS requests etc. Fast forward, I super liked her, she liked me back we got to chatting, and a first I was like, "This is a scam, it's gotta be"...turns out she is 28, lost her father who she was very close to, to cancer 18 months ago, moved to Malaysia to finish an Econ degree, but hates it there and is moving back to Canuckistan in a few weeks. We have been chatting for a bit back and forth, her ex and her ex best friend ended up banging and she has been single ever since.

    She attends Sunday mass, and is Roman Catholic. Doesn't care about age, or looks she says, just wants someone with a good heart. She's not close to her mother, because she left her and her father to go be with a boyfriend 15 years ago in the US, which I think impressed upon her having a good relationship from that and her father's influence, as opposed to just being out there and slutting it up. She dresses in long flowing dresses and dresses VERY conservatively. She cooks every meal, does laundry, cleans etc. She states she is willing to move for a good man, and takes notes and details about me like its important to her.

    What does she look like? Well I wont post images, but save it to say she is the spitting image of Lyndsy Fonseca, (The actress from Hot Tub Time Machine, Cusack's character called the "Great White Buffalo") except she has reddish golden blonde hair. She is of Italian/Canadian decent. She states she has been in 3 relationships, and doesn't sound like the type of girl to bang outside of a relationship. I checked her photos against an online database, no hits so they are real, and checked her area code and it matches up with what she says as well. Now, could this be fake/lies etc of course. And either way what is the end game here, to have her move here and me be her world?

    I almost dismissed her outright, but for now, im just corresponding with her back and forth, because all signs point to "Good woman". Maybe because im a cynical bastard I almost dismissed her, but we will see, im not expecting anything, but I also am not going to trash it in case she is as decent as she seems to be.

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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    Quote Originally Posted by sirreaper View Post
    Interesting thread. I think I may have actually found a decent one, and it IS hard to see. From my perspective, it's really just pump and dump because so many are just not worth it, and so my view on them has been skewed heavily because of that fact. Enter this female from Tinder, now I have no idea why she was on Tinder and I thought it was a joke when her profile said she was "12,000 km's away", because i am in Canuckistan, so why would she do that? As it turns out she hated the tinder experience, and especially the sex, dick pics, ONS requests etc. Fast forward, I super liked her, she liked me back we got to chatting, and a first I was like, "This is a scam, it's gotta be"...turns out she is 28, lost her father who she was very close to, to cancer 18 months ago, moved to Malaysia to finish an Econ degree, but hates it there and is moving back to Canuckistan in a few weeks. We have been chatting for a bit back and forth, her ex and her ex best friend ended up banging and she has been single ever since.

    She attends Sunday mass, and is Roman Catholic. Doesn't care about age, or looks she says, just wants someone with a good heart. She's not close to her mother, because she left her and her father to go be with a boyfriend 15 years ago in the US, which I think impressed upon her having a good relationship from that and her father's influence, as opposed to just being out there and slutting it up. She dresses in long flowing dresses and dresses VERY conservatively. She cooks every meal, does laundry, cleans etc. She states she is willing to move for a good man, and takes notes and details about me like its important to her.

    What does she look like? Well I wont post images, but save it to say she is the spitting image of Lyndsy Fonseca, (The actress from Hot Tub Time Machine, Cusack's character called the "Great White Buffalo") except she has reddish golden blonde hair. She is of Italian/Canadian decent. She states she has been in 3 relationships, and doesn't sound like the type of girl to bang outside of a relationship. I checked her photos against and online database, no hits so they are real, and checked her area code and it matches up with what she says as well. Now, could this be fake/lies etc of course. And either way what is the end game here, to have her move here and me be her world?

    I almost dismissed her outright, but for now, im just corresponding with her back and forth, because all signs point to "Good woman". Maybe because im a cynical bastard I almost dismissed her, but we will see, im not expecting anything, but I also am not going to trash it in case she is as decent as she seems to be.

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    Re: Are Men Overlooking Good Women

    It's easy to get drawn into male = good, female = bad.

    Good, decent women do exist and they are probably the majority. This would even include some single mothers, who often get criticised by the manosphere. She may have had one child by mistake, and she couldn't do much but rely on the state; fair enough.

    The bottom line is no matter how good or bad a women is, she has the full power of the state to destroy a man's life with false accusations, divorce rape, oopsie pregnancies and so on... and the consequences are felt for a lifetime. Female manipulation is high quality and you need lots of life experience to figure a women's intentions out. The consequences of being on the receiving end of this manipulation are lifelong and cannot simply be disregarded an some 'unfortunate event' like missing the bus to work.

    So we have no choice but to overlook good women, because the power dynamic is extremely heavily skewed against men in the modern western world because of a) gynocentric laws and b) gynocentric brainwashing coming mainly from the biological mother/sister/female siblings and even the father. Which actually tends to be overlooked in mgtow circles.

    There are plenty of good women like Ester Vilar, Erin Pizzey, Karen Straughan and from my experience women tend care more about men's pain than other men.

    The issue is gynocentrism/white knights and the laws that support morally corrupt female behaviour.
    You might say 'well blame the justice system, not the women' but as I have previously stated...

    You are obliged as a moral human being to refuse to engage in moral corruption; even if it benefits you. Evil exists, you avoid taking part in it. It's that simple.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    Women cant really love the man himself . Its some other subtle things .

    Whats your weight division ? Maybe you wanna fight ?

    And what is LARP, its a throat doctor , right ?

    Of course its some freedom from women .

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    Maybe ... but you know, at this point in time I make it a point NOT to look. I'm just done with the whole shenanigans of these females. Let them do whatever or whoever they want, it's none of my business. Neither is it my business if Ali decides to "culturally enrich" them. When the pendulum has swung backwards - as it usually does ... there will be more "good women" (read: more traditional aka 50ies style male exploitation for sex & offspring / housekeeping ) again. But at that point in time what kind of men wants to get back to the negotiating table aka the plantation? I'm sure temporary MGTOW who were just pussythirsty simps in disguise to begin with will jump at the opportunity. The more sceptical folks .. not so much.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Aintdealingwithyoshit View Post
    Maybe ... but you know, at this point in time I make it a point NOT to look. I'm just done with the whole shenanigans of these females. Let them do whatever or whoever they want, it's none of my business. Neither is it my business if Ali decides to "culturally enrich" them. When the pendulum has swung backwards - as it usually does ... there will be more "good women" (read: more traditional aka 50ies style male exploitation for sex & offspring / housekeeping ) again. But at that point in time what kind of men wants to get back to the negotiating table aka the plantation? I'm sure temporary MGTOW who were just pussythirsty simps in disguise to begin with will jump at the opportunity. The more sceptical folks .. not so much.
    People actually waste their whole life snooping into businesses that are not their own .

    Every business is a scam . Every relationship is a scam but you are a happy person if you cant see it .

    Nothing to see there . Just go home .
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    Quote Originally Posted by chbedok View Post
    My weight is around the 70-80 kilos, but my record is shit though. 0 - 1. Make of that what you will.

    LARP ain't a doctor, but like the medical services, it can be a goddamn money sink.
    Dude you made me smile . Thank you !
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