Page 1 of 4 1234 LastLast
Results 1 to 20 of 73
  1. #1
    Senior Member Toolband89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    The Woods
    Posts
    602
    Reputation
    1555
    Type
    Stoic

    Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    I'm sure several of you have seen the piece from Psychology Today. It's now being picked up on by various news agencies, other sites (especially feminist ones like Jezebel, Madam Noire, etc). Basically, the crux of it is that women are superior, they're out achieving men, they're raising their standards and they're happier being single than men are. They go on to suggest that men must up their game, become more considerate, caring partners and even seek therapy to confront their shortcomings, biases and inherent misogyny to be more supportive of the women in their life.

    It couldn't possibly be that more men are waking up to the fact that modern women, and especially Western women are toxic cows who have nothing to offer beyond their bloated bodies, entitled personalities and endless nagging. If you love drama, by all means, sacrifice your precious time, money and energy to becoming everything the feminist hags want in a man- a strong, masculine yet caring supportive boy servant who strokes their ego and encourages to achieve higher and higher status while also still somehow out earning them in their own stressful, lucrative job while also managing to keep a woman so attracted, turned on and emotionally stimulated that her eyes wouldn't possibly wander. I'd love to meet the sensitive Casanova/ Hercules who manages to have that kind of balance.

    I figured you'd all enjoy a good laugh, as I have. Feel free to pick this apart gentlemen

    https://www.psychologytoday.com/us/b...ely-single-men

  2. #2
    Senior Member mgtower's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2019
    Posts
    6,150
    Reputation
    16846
    Type
    Ghost

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    A weak man is clay, a strong man is stone, they'll never learn they can't mold and model men to suit their purpose, all they can attract are the weak, the strong won't even consider it.

  3. #3
    Junior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2022
    Posts
    20
    Reputation
    223
    Type
    Bachelor

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    The first time I saw a reference to this article was on Tinder. The girl's profile had a screenshot of the article's headline and main points. I guess this means she is proud of the progress that women have made.

    However, her bio said, "Probably won't respond if you message me. Not in the mood to date just on here when I'm bored."

    Super. I guess this is progress.

  4. #4
    Administrator Unboxxed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    5,448
    Reputation
    14947
    Type
    enigmatic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    From the article:

    And while you don’t actually need to be in a relationship to be happy, men typically are happier and healthier when partnered.
    Well, yeah, for those that are. It makes sense that if a man thinks he will be happier if partnered, such that he pursues it, then he is bound to believe that he is happier once he has it. Duh. Do you see the big hole here? There's no big contrast explored.

    Could we not also say that people typically are happier and healthier after doing anything that they expected would make them happier? Duh.

    So what are we learning here exclusively about partnerships when they exclude all the men whose partnerships ended?

    (Hint: it's just the author's preface to support what he next wants to say.)

    When partnered, the author wrote. Sure. But now interview all men, including the (happily) divorced ones. Ask these formerly-partnered men did they go into their partnership thinking they would be happier? (Expect them to say Yes.) Did the happiness last but they ended the partnership anyway? (Expect them to think this question is stupid and say No. This question confirms they were unhappy.) Once unpartnered again, did they become happier than just before for having achieved this new status? (Expect them to say Yes. Again, no one pursues a change of state if they believe they will be unhappier for it.)

    And so our next MGTOW article might say:

    Men typically are happier and healthier for having dissolved a partnership.

    See how this bullshit works?

    Of course you did. I just like to point out these matriculated types need to up their game.
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

    Suitable for bookmarking: www.fakehatecrimes.org and www.breitbart.com/tag/hate-crime-hoax

  5. #5
    Senior Member Toolband89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    The Woods
    Posts
    602
    Reputation
    1555
    Type
    Stoic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    From the article:



    Well, yeah, for those that are. It makes sense that if a man thinks he will be happier if partnered, such that he pursues it, then he is bound to believe that he is happier once he has it. Duh. Do you see the big hole here? There's no big contrast explored.
    Every single married man I know is not happy. Well...I'll give the exception of my best friend. He's in STEM, she's in STEM. They have opposite schedules, so they don't see each other much at home. They have no kids, and they have a crap load of leave time, so they travel together frequently. They in fact do seem happy, but it's easy to be happy when you're essentially married to a a travel buddy that you get to have sex with in exotic locales. That alone keeps the attraction and excitement high. Couple that with not spending a lot time at home together, and it's a recipe for a successful marriage... so far. But beyond that, every couple I know is worn out, apathetic and bitter.

    I figure it's better to be single and maybe a little lonely at times than strapped to the Titanic.

  6. #6
    Administrator Unboxxed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    5,448
    Reputation
    14947
    Type
    enigmatic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    Every single married man I know is not happy. Well...I'll give the exception of my best friend. He's in STEM, she's in STEM. They have opposite schedules, so they don't see each other much at home. They have no kids, and they have a crap load of leave time, so they travel together frequently. They in fact do seem happy, but it's easy to be happy when you're essentially married to a a travel buddy that you get to have sex with in exotic locales. That alone keeps the attraction and excitement high. Couple that with not spending a lot time at home together, and it's a recipe for a successful marriage... so far. But beyond that, every couple I know is worn out, apathetic and bitter.

    I figure it's better to be single and maybe a little lonely at times than strapped to the Titanic.
    I hear you. What I find interesting is how by most reports anywhere there is a huge quantity of happily married men out there yet we MGTOW, as you indicate above, seem to run into only the unhappy ones. Why don't we see happily married men in our personal vicinity? Is the rest of the world fibbing or do we MGTOW avoid acknowledging that crowd even when we disagree with them or think they have not yet learned?

    Do we define happiness differently that they do? Does the article's author define happiness differently than any given reader imputes? Perhaps it does not matter when each individual can define their happiness, and delusions count as happiness.
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

    Suitable for bookmarking: www.fakehatecrimes.org and www.breitbart.com/tag/hate-crime-hoax

  7. #7
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Location
    Wherever you go, there you are.
    Posts
    2,807
    Reputation
    4663
    Type
    Just Me.

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Aaaah. It’s written by a bloke!

    Hey Greg, this is gonna be fun.

    Key points

    • Dating opportunities for heterosexual men are diminishing as relationship standards rise.
    • Men represent approximately 62% of dating app users, lowering their chances for matches.
    • Men need to address skills deficits to meet healthier relationship expectations.
    Yup. Relationship standards are indeed rising, to the point of being unattainable. Women want, and they seek heterosexual men to continuously provide for that want. Since women’s wants are inexhaustible it’s no wonder that the opportunities for men to satisfy those wants are diminishing.

    Dating apps are primarily “fuck” apps. There is no “lowering of chances”. If you only get to shag, say 1 in 20 of thousands your dick is going to be red raw.

    “healthier relationship expectations”??? Hey Greg, you owe me for a new keyboard as I just spat a mouthful over mine. Just who is defining these expectations? Could it possibly be, no it couldn’t be, but then again it just could be – WOMEN!!!

    And I haven’t even got into the main text yet:

    Younger and middle-aged men are the loneliest they’ve ever been in generations, and it’s probably going to get worse.
    Oh you must be so lonely not having some woman around to criticise your every thought and action.

    What a croc. Classic manipulation. An attempt to impose a negative on a positive. Freedom to do what you choose must be evil because it doesn’t include me.

    Over the last 30 years, men have become a larger portion of that growing group of long-term single people.
    I wonder why! (/sarc)

    And while you don’t actually need to be in a relationship to be happy, men typically are happier and healthier when partnered.
    Shite if ever I heard it. Men are typically happier and healthier when they shed the burden of societal gynocentric conformity. Relationshits bring worries and stress that the single guy just doesn’t have to contend with. Less stress = better health.

    Dating Apps. Whether you’re just starting to date or you’re recently divorced and dating again, dating apps are a huge driver of new romantic connections in the United States. The only problem is that upwards of 62% of users are men and many women are overwhelmed with how many options they have. Competition in online dating is fierce, and lucky in-person chance encounters with dreamy partners are rarer than ever.
    Dating apps are “come fuck me” apps. There is nothing romantic about them.

    Sorry, my apologies. Some also use them as “I’m gonna fuck you over” apps. “I’ll suss out your resources and take what I can get” apps.

    And then there are the saps that believe Greg’s definition, the prey to the rest.

    As for the “chance encounter with a dreamy partner”, how many of those dreams turn to nightmares.

    Dream on.

    Relationship Standards. … They prefer men who are emotionally available, good communicators, and share similar values.
    Of course they do. They are easier to manipulate.

    The problem for men is that emotional connection is the lifeblood of healthy, long-term love. Emotional connection requires all the skills that families are still not consistently teaching their young boys.
    FUCK!

    What is this pseudo-psychological bullshit. Take your “lifeblood”, together with your “long-term love” and shove it up your ass.

    “Love” is born from respect not emotion. “In-love” is a short-term emotional response and is the “lifeblood” of exactly jack-shit.

    Aw I’m tired of picking this shit to pieces. This guy needs to be sectioned.

  8. #8
    Senior Member Toolband89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    The Woods
    Posts
    602
    Reputation
    1555
    Type
    Stoic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post

    What is this pseudo-psychological bullshit. Take your “lifeblood”, together with your “long-term love” and shove it up your ass.
    I see it as a poorly veiled attempt to get more men to spend money on therapy. Women seek therapy in far greater numbers than men do. Just like corporate America saw women spending their husband's money and thought "how do we double profits? Get women to join the workforce!" The government also saw the benefit in increased tax revenue. It's all just a scam to get more money- convince men they're single and miserable, women are these marvelous, high achieving creatures that you need to impress with obscene amounts of self improvement and therapy, and maybe you'll see more patients trickling in. Might as well start dosing them with antidepressants too, get some more kickbacks from big pharma!

  9. #9
    Senior Member Toolband89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    The Woods
    Posts
    602
    Reputation
    1555
    Type
    Stoic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I hear you. What I find interesting is how by most reports anywhere there is a huge quantity of happily married men out there yet we MGTOW, as you indicate above, seem to run into only the unhappy ones. Why don't we see happily married men in our personal vicinity? Is the rest of the world fibbing or do we MGTOW avoid acknowledging that crowd even when we disagree with them or think they have not yet learned?

    Do we define happiness differently that they do? Does the article's author define happiness differently than any given reader imputes? Perhaps it does not matter when each individual can define their happiness, and delusions count as happiness.
    I love how they heavily imply that men benefit substantially from marriage- someone to make you go to a doctor, stay healthy, etc. I don't know about you guys, but I'm more than capable of going to the doctor by myself, have been since I was a teenager. If I get an infection I see a doctor. Chronic pain? Doctor. Feel off for an extended period of time? Doctor. I also keep up with my regular dentist appointments. Shock! Horror! A single, adult male who is a functioning adult! I also make my bed, brush my teeth, dress myself, get to work on time and wipe my own ass! Guess I'm a unicorn, because if we were to believe the media, most men are just roaming around like retarded zombies just waiting for cues and directions from women.

  10. #10
    Administrator Unboxxed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    5,448
    Reputation
    14947
    Type
    enigmatic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    I love how they heavily imply that men benefit substantially from marriage- someone to make you go to a doctor, stay healthy, etc. I don't know about you guys, but I'm more than capable of going to the doctor by myself, have been since I was a teenager. If I get an infection I see a doctor. Chronic pain? Doctor. Feel off for an extended period of time? Doctor. I also keep up with my regular dentist appointments. Shock! Horror! A single, adult male who is a functioning adult! I also make my bed, brush my teeth, dress myself, get to work on time and wipe my own ass! Guess I'm a unicorn, because if we were to believe the media, most men are just roaming around like retarded zombies just waiting for cues and directions from women.
    You know, that was a very brief article for the gravity it suggests. And apparently based on those trash cell phone apps?

    And then I see he maintains a place on TikToxic. Ok, he's a sell-out. From the article, emphasis mine:

    Ultimately, we have an opportunity to revolutionize romantic relationships and establish new healthy norms starting with a first date. It’s likely that some of these romances will be transformative and healing, disrupting generational trauma, and establishing a fresh culture of admiration and validation.
    Those are words that women respond to. This article is for the chicks.

    Psychology Today? That Psucks.
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

    Suitable for bookmarking: www.fakehatecrimes.org and www.breitbart.com/tag/hate-crime-hoax

  11. #11
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Jun 2019
    Location
    Wherever you go, there you are.
    Posts
    2,807
    Reputation
    4663
    Type
    Just Me.

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Could we not also say that people typically are happier and healthier after doing anything that they expected would make them happier? Duh.
    Exactly so, but this is short term gratification. They (we) indeed feel happier and even healthier, but how does this equate long term. Does repetition incur the same feeling? Do statistics bear this out? If you’re dying (e.g. from a congenital illness) and feel healthy in the moment does this mean that you are indeed healthy?

    Is this feeling real or imagined? Does it matter so long as you feel good?

    If you only feel good during and in the aftermath of an event then you will seek out the same scenario again and again, usually with diminishing results. This is akin to addiction.

  12. #12
    Senior Member Toolband89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    The Woods
    Posts
    602
    Reputation
    1555
    Type
    Stoic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    You know, that was a very brief article for the gravity it suggests.
    It's basically an opinion piece by one therapist about an analysis of census data done by PewResearch. How the media spins it? Scientific study showing men floundering, haha.
    https://www.wcnc.com/video/life/ther...7-2d8c8bfcb5c0

    As someone who has previously dealt with Census data analysis myself, the Census essentially provides basic, raw demographic data. How many households in an area, how many per household, etc. This is often coupled with extrapolated data from the American Community Survey to get a feel for income, educational attainment, etc. Keep in mind that the ACS only goes out to a handful of households in an area in a given period of time.

    Anyways, in this case PewResearch seems to be combining raw data that we know to be true, at least empirically - the number of singles is rising in America, with pure conjecture and biased conclusions- that A. Single Americans are worse off financially and B. Since married men claim in some surveys to have better health and wellbeing outcomes, that the rise in singles and especially single men, means that single men are floundering!

    Let's unpack that a bit. Yes, single people generally don't have the benefit of 2 incomes. They also have less costs. As a man, my life is fairly spartan in nature. I keep my costs low and invest heavily. I plan to retire early. Also, if single people are worse off in general, then where are the studies claiming single women are floundering? Oh no, the rise in single women is portrayed as a good thing. They're thriving, free from the oppression of the patriarchy, dual income households be damned!

    Now, health outcomes. If I survey 1000 men, roughly equally mixed between single and married and find that the married men are generally healthier due to influence (nagging) of their wives, can I claim that as definitive? Surveys and data are funny things, easily molded to fit a narrative. Questions can be worded to also guide people to certain responses. These things should always be taken with a grain of salt. I know married guys at 40 who are fat, balding, stressed and severely aged. I know single 50 year olds who are carefree and could pass for 40 or under. Have these guys ever been surveyed? Not likely. I know I've certainly never been asked for my input.
    Last edited by Toolband89; August 16, 2022 at 12:37 AM.

  13. #13

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    "Seek therapy, self improvement, be better"

    Get on that self improvement threadmill men, don't ya want to be accepted by a goddess? LMAO

    Theses people are crazy, it a waste of time to "self" improve if what you improving towards cannot be reached. Women are never satisfied so you can never be "good enough" for them

    Plus why hell would you? All that work and you get some old self important bonehead of a women who thinks she too good for you who will barely if ever do anything or put out because she want to "settle down" which is code for "I tired of sex and work, just take care of me while I give you nothing in return"

    A pretty crappy deal if I do say so myself

    Ps. Obviously self improvement is important but if you are able to take care of yourself and do the things you want, why obess over self improvement, ya know? Just enjoy your life and if you need to fix something just fix, don't worry about optimizing all the time. The point is not to keep running on the self improvement treadmill but to enjoy life

  14. #14

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    I read through it briefly. I thought it was dumb. The author of the article is a simp. The first two points were obvious and third is "men need to do better."

    As a reader, I asked myself, "Why should I work to increase my skills? Just in order to succeed with modern women? But I don't value that." If other guys want to chase after that bit of "excellence," have at it.
    Last edited by Eddie Haskell; August 16, 2022 at 1:32 AM.

  15. #15
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Posts
    413
    Reputation
    798
    Type
    Neutral

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    What does a woman really have to offer? Not much. Her gash has limited appeal (this can be rented). Most woman are little more than a "drama source". Who needs that?

    This comedian uses most of their "drama" as a source for material.

    Thank you, ​NO!

  16. #16
    Administrator Unboxxed's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Location
    USA
    Posts
    5,448
    Reputation
    14947
    Type
    enigmatic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Ha, tonight on Gutfeld!, they talked about this article. Greg Gutfeld read this from the article:

    I hear recurring dating themes from women between the ages of 25 and 45: They prefer men who are emotionally available, good communicators, and share similar values.
    Greg said the author must be single because he just described the Friend Zone. LOL.
    The two most important days in your life are the day you were born and the day you find out why. - Mark Twain

    The mass of men lead lives of quiet desperation.
    - Henry David Thoreau

    There are 10 types of people in the world - those who understand binary, and those who don't.

    Suitable for bookmarking: www.fakehatecrimes.org and www.breitbart.com/tag/hate-crime-hoax

  17. #17
    Super Moderator Mr Wombat's Avatar
    Join Date
    Mar 2014
    Posts
    5,521
    Reputation
    25212
    Type
    Neutral

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Couple of points to note.

    First, it's an ad. And ad for therapy in general:
    How can men reap the benefit of the algorithms? Level up your mental health game. That means getting into some individual therapy to address your skills gap.
    Guaranteed this writer is a therapist, a mental health professional of some stripe. Oh, here it is:
    Greg Matos, PsyD, ABPP is a board-certified couple and family psychologist.
    So yes, the article is a little insulting, but there's no need to be offended: it's an ad.

    Psychology Today is Cosmopolitan for adult women. Seventeen is for 12-year-olds, Cosmo is for late teens/early 20's, and PT picks up the adults. It's all the same stuff: clitorises and "relationships" (fucking), although PT does rather more on the unhaaaaappy that women are so prone to. There's nothing in that rag for a man and there's not intended to be. It's for IQ 95 women who like to think they know something about Psychology.

    As for the article itself, the answer is same as always: why bother? Women are no longer offering what men want: home and family, lifelong, committed, secure. A son to raise to manhood. At best, they offer sex, and usually not particularly good sex. Getting laid is still always pretty good; but three year relationships loaded with drama is what women want, not us.

    The author lets slip the secret:

    Level up your mental health game. That means … seeing intimacy, romance, and emotional connection as worthy of your time and effort.
    It isn't. It won't be for so long as the average woman is a cheating, gold-digging whore who will legally kidnap your children and hold them hostage for money.

  18. #18
    Senior Member Toolband89's Avatar
    Join Date
    Sep 2021
    Location
    The Woods
    Posts
    602
    Reputation
    1555
    Type
    Stoic

    re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Haskell View Post
    I read through it briefly. I thought it was dumb. The author of the article is a simp. The first two points were obvious and third is "men need to do better."

    As a reader, I asked myself, "Why should I work to increase my skills? Just in order to succeed with modern women? But I don't value that." If other guys want to chase after that bit of "excellence," have at it.
    Imagine how men will have to be in the future. In one possible future, we somehow avoid social and economic destruction, in which case men will need to have better listening skills than a shrink, more sexual skill, stamina and build than the world's best gigolo, and the wealth of a Dubai oil baron. All in the name of getting their dick wet.

    Or...we continue down the path of social decay, and women magically ditch feminism in the name of survival. Sort of like in this video: https://youtu.be/4jSDXArDVBk

  19. #19
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Aug 2021
    Posts
    1,303
    Reputation
    2968
    Type
    Ghost

    Re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Seems to be the recurring theme of it being men's fault. There's some very simple problems though with the "theories" put forward. Namely more "lonely single men" means more lonely single women.

    The author of the article is supposedly a psychologist and is pushing therapy as a means of men addressing these issues he feels we have. So in other words he is biased and has his own self interests in mind.

    I would love to see that actually, "I am wanting therapy so I get laid".

    Yep, no worries.


    He also doesn't seem to understand that women don't have great communication skills anyway. On dating sites they are notorious for one word responses if you get anything at all.

  20. #20
    Senior Member
    Join Date
    Mar 2022
    Posts
    413
    Reputation
    798
    Type
    Neutral

    Re: Oh no! The rise of lonely, single men is upon us!

    Quote Originally Posted by Kryptic View Post
    Seems to be the recurring theme of it being men's fault. There's some very simple problems though with the "theories" put forward. Namely more "lonely single men" means more lonely single women.

    The author of the article is supposedly a psychologist and is pushing therapy as a means of men addressing these issues he feels we have. So in other words he is biased and has his own self interests in mind.

    I would love to see that actually, "I am wanting therapy so I get laid".

    Yep, no worries.


    He also doesn't seem to understand that women don't have great communication skills anyway. On dating sites they are notorious for one word responses if you get anything at all.
    And the MGTOW finally replied... Who gives a 'shit and a shave'?

    ​Farg 'em!


Similar Threads

  1. Why does life have to be so lonely?
    By alcockell in forum Lounge
    Replies: 40
    Last Post: January 24, 2018, 9:10 PM
  2. How to not be lonely when you are alone
    By Andrew in forum For Ghosts
    Replies: 25
    Last Post: November 23, 2017, 8:35 PM
  3. Replies: 10
    Last Post: December 29, 2014, 7:18 AM
  4. Lonely old age?
    By Brit in forum Lounge
    Replies: 18
    Last Post: October 16, 2014, 7:42 PM
  5. Itís Lonely Out In Space -- Chateau Heartiste
    By jagrmeister in forum Game
    Replies: 0
    Last Post: May 7, 2014, 9:30 PM

Posting Permissions

  • You may not post new threads
  • You may not post replies
  • You may not post attachments
  • You may not edit your posts
  •