Thread: My Bro

I’ve been wearing my Red-Pill Goggles™️ for about a decade now, having discovered that I am not alone on how women really operate and how much damage they can do when they are not held accountable for their actions.

Even while choking down red-pill after red-pill, remembering the times other men in my life have proffered up their own warnings, and submerging myself in MGTOW treasure troves such as this place, I have still dropped the ball and needlessly put myself in harms way. I’m definitely not perfect. No one is. But, this one isn’t about me, it’s about the longest friendship I’ve ever had.

We met in 1983, while walking home from school. He was a in second grade, I was in first. It was my first year at this school and I was new to the neighborhood. I can remember watching fights almost everyday walking home, and sometimes during recess. It was intimidating because I didn’t know anyone and had never been in a fight.

I noticed who was always started the fights and kept my eye on him and distanced myself from him, Mike. I also noticed who walked the same direction to go home and would just walk with him whether he noticed or not, so that there were two of us. It worked and we got to know each other more every day. We had similar interests in cartoons and toys, and we lived only a block away from each other so we began hanging out after school. Our parents then became friends and we’d hang out on holidays too. We got along great. The next year, I moved to a different side of town, new school, new neighborhood but, our parents would still get together and me and my bro could hang out.

There was so much freedom in this small town back then. We could ride bikes all over until the sun went down or dinner was ready and just be dumb little kids that only did stupid shit to kill time. One thing me and my bro did before I moved was, we would go by the train tracks when a train was coming just to feel how big and loud it was for a rush of excitement. And, after watching too much A-Team or whatever, one time we piled up some rocks and sticks to see if we could make the train crash, because you know, putting pennies on the tracks costed money and at 5 years old in 1983, pennies were as hard to find as gold…The train came by just as slow as it always did, we ran for our lives, the wheels pushed the rocks and sticks right off the tracks like butter off a hot knife, so stupid hahaha…But, we just did something risky together, it was a next-level bonding experience…

Fast-Forward now, in high school, we didn’t sit with any clique, we sat at our own table and nobody messed with us. He was in the class ahead of me and was a top wrestler, I was an aspiring pothead that was getting deeper into heavy metal and mountain biking but, we had the exact same taste in women. We go for the slutty ones to get laid and then we’d sweet talk the innocent ones into giving up that virgin pussy. We treated them all like pieces of meat and sometimes he would scoop up MY leftovers hahaha. He was about the only friend I had left after I got arrested for some bs, even though he really never liked doing the crimes I did. He came to see me the night I got out of jail with my gf and we were going to see a movie.

We went to concerts, go paintballing, banged broads in front of each other just to piss each other off, and we would make the cops chase us just to make them chase us…Man I miss the 90’s! Well, most of it anyways.

Once he landed his dream woman, he disappeared. I respected that, I spent a lot of time with my woman too. His went straight up psycho, it almost got violent, mine fizzled out and I up and moved to Georgia for a change of everything. He rebounded to another one and wife’s her up, I figured he was gonna be fine without me around and didn’t give a flying fuck about what anyone else had to say about what I wanted to do.

2009, I was laid off, had steady sweet gf that bored me and was beginning to annoy me, so I packed up everything, cashed out my stocks and 401k and headed back to the north with my two Georgia-born dogs and about $50k cash. I looked up a few people on FakeBook and saw he was happily re-married, had a kid and one on the way, so I didn’t call him up, because I didn’t want to disrupt his seemingly perfect life, because I wasn’t exactly asset material to a normie, never was, and he went full normie with his American Dream-like looking life. I wouldn’t be able to forgive myself if I had ANY part in screwing that up for him because I knew first hand how near impossible it was to achieve.

After a couple of years, and after dodging a few more bullets, and was about to snap the fuck out and move away again, he called me out of the blue. My mom had called his mom and she gave my phone number to him. Of course, he called, we are bros. I told him I didn’t think it was good idea for me to meet his family because I always do everything wrong, and he appears to be doing everything right. He called bullshit, and told me his wife wanted to meet me…

This woman, at face value, was the absolute perfect woman. She took pride in being a traditional housewife and she was absolutely beautiful. They had a perfect cozy little house, in a cozy little town, stable jobs, involved in their kid’s sports and school, and went to church on Sundays. I was absolutely impressed and wanted the same thing all my life. I was jealous but, I had also just discovered The Red-Pill™️ so my radar was on, looking for anything because I knew this was not possible.

I hate being right sometimes.

They invited me over regularly for dinner, I thought it was because they felt sorry for me. But, it turned out that it was because things were getting stale and I spiced things up with my stories and experiences from living in the south. I would ride my Harley over and the youngest who called me Jesus because he couldn’t say my name right would come out dressed like a biker. He was like 3, the cute little shit wearing cowboy boots fingerless gloves sunglasses and a bandana…His mom prolly did him up for laughs…It was always a good time until the day my bro called me in the middle of the night.

He was crying, said she left him, took the kids, the house was in foreclosure, he had to declare bankruptcy, pay child support…Out of nowhere, after 10 years and two kids, she stopped paying the bills, hid the mail, he never saw it coming. She tried saying he had an anger issue, and he owned a lot of guns, and he would yell at the drug dealers across the street, and she felt very unsafe…He came home one day after work, his family was gone,and the Sherrif pulled up to serve him eviction papers, and standby while she and her dad could get their things from the house. The youngest kid was crying and saying “I don’t want my dad to go to prison”, his father in law called him a piece of shit, and now he was talking about eating his 9mm because his entire world just imploded.

I talked him down while I was at work. He moved in with his parents, and got the kids every weekend. His coworkers were fucking with him because, he was always a dick and now he’s down and out, he was in a really shitty place but his boys had more fun with him and eventually his wife came back and they went back to that little town and rented a house in the same neighborhood, trying for a do-over…

They had all the friends over every weekend, lots of drinking, and food, trying to make things back to normal again. We all believed shit was back to normal, and then they up and moved to Arizona for a fresh new beginning. Her parents were there already and he has nobody there at all. She landed a high paying job in the city, and he managed to scrape up some blue collar work…They got a really nice spread, nice new cars, the kids have the best of everything. American Dream 2.0

They’d FaceTime me a couple times a month, begging me to move out there…yeah yeah, humble bragggers…So I’d fly out a few times, hang with the family like old times, catch up with my bro walking a mountain trail. One time we were leaving a car show in Scottsdale, and his wife was like “hey, let’s rent a van and drive to San Diego and get a hotel.” I threw my credit card at her n she had the hotel, the rental car, and the itinerary lined up before we even got to the rental car lot. I paid the hotel they got the van and the gas, and we took turns driving. It was A FUCKING BLAST!

A couple years later, in spring 2021, I solo’d my new touring bike out to just jump in their pool, then back through the deserts and plains high as a kite, three days back…Epic trip.

Three days ago, my bro called me. She put him out again. He’s talking about going out in a blaze of glory…I talk him down again…Same deal…She maxed out all the credit cards, took loans, got behind on everything, blamed his anger problems…He’s never put hands on her, ever…

He is blue-pilled and is not capable of seeing through red-pill glasses, at all…

I think that by living for so long in denial, the brain is unable to process that it was wrong.

I am Red-Pilled™️ for life but, I know the temptation to go blue-pilled again…I just can’t…

Hello Black-Pill™️

what do you expect to tell you out of this? we're sorry for you friend but at the same time its his trust and decision making that put him there. He did the same mistake over and over. if he doesnt have a glimpse of red pill by now he probably never will. Mostly sorry for your friendship here. It sucks to have a suicidal friend. It can be a heavy burden. Best of luck for you and your friendship.

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."
- Morpheus ('99 Matrix)

Even back then, the occasional pearl of wisdom, in an otherwise sea of banality.

Sometimes, you just have to walk away, and let it burn.

Hey man, this guy’s your bro. The shit that he’s going through is shit indeed and I don’t for a second dismiss your concern for him.

When you mentioned she screwed him over, fucked up the finances to the point where they lost their home and took the kids I thought: where have I heard this before?

Then, I assume some time later, they hook up again. She’s not content fucking your bro over once, she does it again.

There were many warning signs for your bro here, but one which stood out to me was her desire to up sticks and move to where her family had moved to.

This is the same behaviour as the hot chick hooking up with a thug. She knows she has badness in her heart and seeks others to back her up when the truth finally outs.

I enter any encounter with a woman, regardless of how long I've known her, much like I would being a wild animal trainer. You 'think' you know what they will do, but there's always the chance they will turn on you in a heartbeat. Protective measures must be in place. A woman talks about moving somewhere where her family/support unit is and yours isn't - huge red flag. I would entertain moving somewhere neutral for a 'fresh start', meaning a place there is
no family or support unit for either party. Women don't do anything without there being an ulterior motive.

Incredible. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I have a file of stories and posts that I save for whenever I fall in love again, and this is in it.


Not once but twice, and I was certain the story was going to pivot to cheating, her hitting on you, etc.

You don't mention any of that (sorry if I missed it), what was her relationship with you like? Did she cross any lines?

Moreover. I have a coworker who I just met. Dude is the same age, heavier, but looks like me. He has pre-teen kids (I did not and am divorced, easily a decade ago).
He is at present 1/2 through a divorce and expects to to pay multiple hundreds of thousands in legal fees, and not to mention is going through hell with friends/family/acquaintances/kid issues and yet he is in a new, serious, monogamous relationship. (She's different guys!)

I just... don't.get.it.

I want to red pill him but I know that its not possible. I've tried a few times with others and been burned so its on you to find it fellas, but I drop and listen for hints.

This is one of many guys I know who have 2-4 "at bats" and subsequent alimony payments & debt.

But anyway, how some men, especially in the age of internet search engines, men get burned and sign back up and say "Super size it please!"

IDK.

/tired

Originally Posted by TiredOfWmnSh!t

Incredible. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I have a file of stories and posts that I save for whenever I fall in love again, and this is in it.


Not once but twice, and I was certain the story was going to pivot to cheating, her hitting on you, etc.

You don't mention any of that (sorry if I missed it), what was her relationship with you like? Did she cross any lines?

Moreover. I have a coworker who I just met. Dude is the same age, heavier, but looks like me. He has pre-teen kids (I did not and am divorced, easily a decade ago).
He is at present 1/2 through a divorce and expects to to pay multiple hundreds of thousands in legal fees, and not to mention is going through hell with friends/family/acquaintances/kid issues and yet he is in a new, serious, monogamous relationship. (She's different guys!)

I just... don't.get.it.

I want to red pill him but I know that its not possible. I've tried a few times with others and been burned so its on you to find it fellas, but I drop and listen for hints.

This is one of many guys I know who have 2-4 "at bats" and subsequent alimony payments & debt.

But anyway, how some men, especially in the age of internet search engines, men get burned and sign back up and say "Super size it please!"

IDK.

/tired

I can see how they fall into it again. Speaking as a currently divorcing man (thought we had a deal 8 months ago), I can tell you that the urge to have a woman around doesn't fade quickly. Especially if you thought things were good with your wife, which is typically is the case for 70% men. Personally, I knew it was over 5 years before I made my move to get out, being red-pilled and a conspiracy theorist for the last 20+ years helped me tremendously. Do I have moments of weakness where I think I would like to have a woman around the house - yes. Then I jump on here and refresh my operating system.

Point being, we need to feel bad for these men. A lifetime of social conditioning doesn't change easily. We all have our weaknesses and faults on here, and pussy has destroyed many a great man over the centuries. There were men who conquered entire continents that were mentally enslaved by women.

Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser

Point being, we need to feel bad for these men. A lifetime of social conditioning doesn't change easily.

Agreed.

I still date a little, still have some flashy things here/there, for this very reason, but I know with certainty I'm never marrying again.

Originally Posted by KanedaPills666

what do you expect to tell you out of this? we're sorry for you friend but at the same time its his trust and decision making that put him there. He did the same mistake over and over. if he doesnt have a glimpse of red pill by now he probably never will. Mostly sorry for your friendship here. It sucks to have a suicidal friend. It can be a heavy burden. Best of luck for you and your friendship.

You’re correct. It’s his problem, I know this and I have to come to terms with the fact that shit might go all the way south.

I didn’t post this for sympathy, I posted it as an example, mostly, but thanks for your concern.

Originally Posted by ftdjc1

"You have to understand, most of these people are not ready to be unplugged. And many of them are so inured, so hopelessly dependent on the system, that they will fight to protect it."
- Morpheus ('99 Matrix)



Even back then, the occasional pearl of wisdom, in an otherwise sea of banality.

Sometimes, you just have to walk away, and let it burn.

Yeah, it seems like just about everything sacred has a nearing shelf-life anymore…

We must still trudge on and carve out our own personal existence with everything burning in the background…My bike seems to outrun the Black-Pill™️ pretty good��

Originally Posted by Jackoff

Hey man, this guy’s your bro. The shit that he’s going through is shit indeed and I don’t for a second dismiss your concern for him.

When you mentioned she screwed him over, fucked up the finances to the point where they lost their home and took the kids I thought: where have I heard this before?

Then, I assume some time later, they hook up again. She’s not content fucking your bro over once, she does it again.

There were many warning signs for your bro here, but one which stood out to me was her desire to up sticks and move to where her family had moved to.

This is the same behaviour as the hot chick hooking up with a thug. She knows she has badness in her heart and seeks others to back her up when the truth finally outs.

Thanks man, you summed it up better than my micro-novel of a post. He does like to carry himself as a thug and everyone that really knows him knows it’s just an act. Maybe his wife is tired of the acting, I don’t know. She’s a damn good actress herself though…

Originally Posted by 2_Time_Loser

I enter any encounter with a woman, regardless of how long I've known her, much like I would being a wild animal trainer. You 'think' you know what they will do, but there's always the chance they will turn on you in a heartbeat. Protective measures must be in place. A woman talks about moving somewhere where her family/support unit is and yours isn't - huge red flag. I would entertain moving somewhere neutral for a 'fresh start', meaning a place there is
no family or support unit for either party. Women don't do anything without there being an ulterior motive.

I predicted this exact thing from the get go. I didn’t tell them, just a friend of mine that doesn’t talk to them. She was setting him up to drop him on his head by doing this. Sure as shit…

Maybe easier said than done, but after going back the second time, I think he should’ve been secretly preparing for a SHTF situation…at least for the first 5 years. Maybe have a secret stash of money she didn’t know about…be extra involved in the kids’ life and have independent people to vouch for him. I’m guessing after doing it the first time it was infinitely easier for her to do it the second time…especially with her being with family, having a good job and him having no one. The FIL calling him a POS the first time meant that his daughter could run back home at any time and they would take her side no matter what the situation.

Will she be bold enough to bring him back a 3rd time?

Malinois, what a well-written story.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Will she be bold enough to bring him back a 3rd time?

By now she knows his operating parameters. Or rather, how to operate his parameters. When she needs more money, she may try again, then secretly rack up the debt and tell him it's his anger problems again.

The best thing he can do of course, is to change his thinking. He should binge-watch Strong Successful Male on youtube. The host reads stories that guys send in, many are just like this story, and he comments on where the mistakes were made, and how not to repeat them, and he does it like a big bro or father, giving a virtual SMACK across the back of the head for every bonehead move. The host is slowly cultivating a community of smart-minded males who recognize where they went wrong and the guys on the comment section help out. I watch this channel almost every day. I think the host is smart and is not just a guy who says the obvious, like so many other hosts do on youtube. This host actually has something to contribute to other men.

Anyway, the host believes that every guy of any age needs another guy, (a dad, uncle, best friend, older male role model, etc,) to smack him upside the head when he needs it. Even at the risk of losing the friendship for a while. Malinois, maybe your friend needs you to smack him upside the head with some red pill truth.

Originally Posted by TiredOfWmnSh!t

Incredible. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I have a file of stories and posts that I save for whenever I fall in love again, and this is in it.


Not once but twice, and I was certain the story was going to pivot to cheating, her hitting on you, etc.

You don't mention any of that (sorry if I missed it), what was her relationship with you like? Did she cross any lines?

Moreover. I have a coworker who I just met. Dude is the same age, heavier, but looks like me. He has pre-teen kids (I did not and am divorced, easily a decade ago).
He is at present 1/2 through a divorce and expects to to pay multiple hundreds of thousands in legal fees, and not to mention is going through hell with friends/family/acquaintances/kid issues and yet he is in a new, serious, monogamous relationship. (She's different guys!)

I just... don't.get.it.

I want to red pill him but I know that its not possible. I've tried a few times with others and been burned so its on you to find it fellas, but I drop and listen for hints.

This is one of many guys I know who have 2-4 "at bats" and subsequent alimony payments & debt.

But anyway, how some men, especially in the age of internet search engines, men get burned and sign back up and say "Super size it please!"

IDK.

/tired

You’re welcome. These are the types of stories that taught me the most when I was new to this special insight. I write them to share them, and to keep like a rough diary I can look back on.

She did seem like she wanted to cross some lines with me before to tell you the truth. Not long after I met her and his new little family, my phone rang and was my bro. I answered, and it was her! And, the first thing she asked is if I could come over right away. Being a red blooded horn dog, I thought she was home alone and was trying to get me on the sly. That was the vibe I got anyways so, I asked her what’s up. And she just asked the same thing, as if I’m supposed to know why…So I asked her if he was there and if everything was ok. And she said yeah, I just want you to be here right now…

Like she was gaslighting him to be angry and she wanted a witness or something…I said alright, and got there in a few minutes thinking I was gonna have to get in the middle of something. He didn’t even know I was coming over and was trying to figure out how to install child locks on all the cabinets. He sucks at using tools and building things and was getting flustered. I ran home grabbed my drill, came back and we put ‘em all in. Then she cooked us dinner. I took his side the entire time, talking shit when she would try a verbal cheap shot, playing it off…I chilled out the situation and nobody lost any face…

So, yeah that was one instance. Another one was she would really try and connect with me mentally, over his head. And, one the one time she picked me up from the airport he kept calling to see what was taking so long…She may have been trying to fuck with his head there too…

Im smart enough to see when a man is beaten down most of the time. My buddy is one stubborn fading-out alpha with a total normie mentality. He is dedicated to not seeing anything other than what he wants to see…The fucker had me fooled into believing his happy rainbows and unicorn farts, that’s for sure…

He set himself up with his own ignorance, and is crashing hard because of it…

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Maybe easier said than done, but after going back the second time, I think he should’ve been secretly preparing for a SHTF situation…at least for the first 5 years. Maybe have a secret stash of money she didn’t know about…be extra involved in the kids’ life and have independent people to vouch for him. I’m guessing after doing it the first time it was infinitely easier for her to do it the second time…especially with her being with family, having a good job and him having no one. The FIL calling him a POS the first time meant that his daughter could run back home at any time and they would take her side no matter what the situation.

Will she be bold enough to bring him back a 3rd time?

That’s exactly how I see it. She’s set to inherit quite a bit from her dad here pretty soon, I’m sure…His condition is deteriorating and no doubt fat momma’s gonna need her daughter around the house to fill the hole…Hell, the entire thing may have been plotted out by his mother in law because she is a spiteful wretched manhater…

I told him to start stashing some cash and he was like “Why?” I swear to God!

He has no clue and it blows my mind, even my dad is waking up more and more…

I honestly think they put way too much fluoride in the water in this hellhole of shitsplat on the map…Something fierce!

Originally Posted by Unboxxed

Malinois, what a well-written story.



By now she knows his operating parameters. Or rather, how to operate his parameters. When she needs more money, she may try again, then secretly rack up the debt and tell him it's his anger problems again.

The best thing he can do of course, is to change his thinking. He should binge-watch Strong Successful Male on youtube. The host reads stories that guys send in, many are just like this story, and he comments on where the mistakes were made, and how not to repeat them, and he does it like a big bro or father, giving a virtual SMACK across the back of the head for every bonehead move. The host is slowly cultivating a community of smart-minded males who recognize where they went wrong and the guys on the comment section help out. I watch this channel almost every day. I think the host is smart and is not just a guy who says the obvious, like so many other hosts do on youtube. This host actually has something to contribute to other men.

Anyway, the host believes that every guy of any age needs another guy, (a dad, uncle, best friend, older male role model, etc,) to smack him upside the head when he needs it. Even at the risk of losing the friendship for a while. Malinois, maybe your friend needs you to smack him upside the head with some red pill truth.

Thanks, Unboxxed.

She’s definitely got him figured out and his oldest son thoroughly turned against him too…

I tried dropping every red pill I could at him the first time it happened. I even had a woman at a bar agreeing with me about everything I was saying about how shitty woman are. In one ear out the other.

He’s clinging to the sinking ship with everything he has right now. I tried beating him down and building him back up over and over, nothing stuck…2hrs into the conversation and he’s still wanting to play games by telling her that he’s done…I’m telling him that makes you look weak and pathetic, that he needs to get the divorce papers and have her sign if you’re done, anything else is weak in her eyes.

I explained to him that waiting by the phone waiting for it to ring is worse than calling her crying and begging. I told him to ignore her calls for a couple of weeks, if she texts about the kids only call back and talk about the kids, and delete all voice mails without listening to them. I want him to go no contact on her ass…He’s moved into his boss’s apartment because he was angry at her for not paying the bills with his money…

He’s like “It is what it is…” He doesn’t see that his love for her is only pushing her away even more…

After about the 3hr mark and me telling him to at least talk to a lawyer, which I offered to put the money down on, so he doesn’t get raped, he asks me what he needs to do to get her to come back…I asked him why would you want her back after all of this, just focus on being a good dad to your youngest son when you get to see him…I’ve told him everything and he’s not hearing any of it…I don’t think even a baseball bat could drive it into his head…

Sorry I’m a little scatter-brained today…but, I do appreciate your, and everyone else’s effort here…

My Bro might just end up as another statistic and we all know, you can lead the horse blah blah blah water, can’t make him drink…

He is justified in being angry…And he’s my bro, it’s just the namby pamby world we live in forces men to suppress their anger now…because it scares the twats…hell it’s almost illegal to lose your temper anymore…

FTW

Originally Posted by Malinois

That’s exactly how I see it. She’s set to inherit quite a bit from her dad here pretty soon,

That explains why she wanted the second split, to keep him from getting half of the inheritance. Again, women always have an ulterior motive.

Originally Posted by TiredOfWmnSh!t

Incredible. Thank you for taking the time to write this. I have a file of stories and posts that I save for whenever I fall in love again, and this is in it.


Not once but twice, and I was certain the story was going to pivot to cheating, her hitting on you, etc.

You don't mention any of that (sorry if I missed it), what was her relationship with you like? Did she cross any lines?

Moreover. I have a coworker who I just met. Dude is the same age, heavier, but looks like me. He has pre-teen kids (I did not and am divorced, easily a decade ago).
He is at present 1/2 through a divorce and expects to to pay multiple hundreds of thousands in legal fees, and not to mention is going through hell with friends/family/acquaintances/kid issues and yet he is in a new, serious, monogamous relationship. (She's different guys!)

I just... don't.get.it.

I want to red pill him but I know that its not possible. I've tried a few times with others and been burned so its on you to find it fellas, but I drop and listen for hints.

This is one of many guys I know who have 2-4 "at bats" and subsequent alimony payments & debt.

But anyway, how some men, especially in the age of internet search engines, men get burned and sign back up and say "Super size it please!"

IDK.

/tired

It's a sign of insanity.

You always do what you did, you always get what you got. Why do people think this doesn't apply to relationshits?

Originally Posted by Malinois

I tried dropping every red pill I could at him the first time it happened. In one ear out the other.


I’ve told him everything and he’s not hearing any of it…I don’t think even a baseball bat could drive it into his head…

Women don't believe this, but you have proved it again: Men can't Red Pill other men. Only women can Red Pill men. Your Bro doesn't want her to Red Pill him yet. He's not ready to learn the truth.