Thread: Misery index:

Well, boys, the real climate change will be found out this weather, when the bitter cold comes inside.

Place your bets on when you think the index will hit a new all time high.

I'm betting by Thanksgiving things will be back to normal Ha ha ha ha, just kidding!

My new chore will be feeding my outdoor boiler if the electric grid holds out.

I'll be saving lots of money by canceling my auto/truck insurance when the pumps run dry.

Good thing is I have snow shoes for when the snow-plows stop plowing and the roads stop roading (<hey look, new word).

My chest freezer (full of frozen veggies in a shed outside) won't notice the power outages from November to March, and by spring it should be empty.

Here in the north east we have plenty of water, and we're fortunate ice can be melted, unlike the poor souls in our deserts watching all the reservoirs go dry.

The mighty Mississippi is also looking mighty dry, if it weren't for the mud, you could walk to the other side.

Misery is for people that don't take joy in a battle just to survive!

One persons misery is another's challenge to survive! ---(donner pass 1846)

I say; buckle up and drive it like you stole it!

We're about to endure the greatest misery index ever, multitudes are about fall below the poverty line, the middle class is about to get wiped out.

Allot of comfortable little bubbles are about to burst if they haven't already.

How are you coping with the rising misery index unfolding before our eyes?

What measures have you taken, what changes have you made?

I think the crashed economy and massively inflated prices will have much more of an issue than climate change. In don’t know anyone on top right now, and most people I know have lost all savings and are taking (or moving) toward second or third jobs.

As far as environment and deserts, I’m in Florida, where apparently none of this affects us (we’re already supposed to be underwater) where we grow crops in our laundry if we aren’t careful.

Plus the sheer amount of food walking around really makes it not that big a deal.

For a scam they should have claimed all aspects of climate instead of just the heat and water thing.

Bringing draft horses on the farm was our main shift - we even have snow blades that go on the back of our carts for keeping laneways and roads open if needed.

Plenty of firewood available - although I'm vulnerable to the grid as well (forced air wood/oil combo, well pump etc)...we are in the northeast as well, although much more north than you...water isn't a problem.

Plenty of food available both frozen and livestock that can/will be harvested as needed.

Biggest issue is ensuring enough hay - we buy it in (all good for this winter), and that needs to change for next year, provided I can get the equipment here on time.

I've been expecting this for years, just didn't think it would devolve so quickly and kicking myself for not being better set up as I've had the time and resources - just distracted with other BS really.

Originally Posted by KRFJames

Bringing draft horses on the farm was our main shift - we even have snow blades that go on the back of our carts for keeping laneways and roads open if needed.

Plenty of firewood available - although I'm vulnerable to the grid as well (forced air wood/oil combo, well pump etc)...we are in the northeast as well, although much more north than you...water isn't a problem.

Plenty of food available both frozen and livestock that can/will be harvested as needed.

Biggest issue is ensuring enough hay - we buy it in (all good for this winter), and that needs to change for next year, provided I can get the equipment here on time.

I've been expecting this for years, just didn't think it would devolve so quickly and kicking myself for not being better set up as I've had the time and resources - just distracted with other BS really.

All my horsepower is about to literally die! I never thought I'd need a real horse and that one horse power is better than none!

It's funny I always thought that HP was based on 1 actual horse, but it's a bit more technical I guess. Each of ours is equivalent to about 12HP (in pulling power, not at the PTO obviously). We have 4 and they can (together) pull about what a 40-50 HP tractor can pull. I have a 75HP Massey as well...mostly for loader work though and a few PTO implements. It's my JD 75G excavator I'll miss most if/when fuel runs out. Horses aren't suitable for digging!

I guess the graphic you shared is a bit different to as it applies to lifting off the ground as opposed to draft (pulling along the ground)...the pic you have makes sense but would be a bit complicated as well as it would be relative to the horse's weight and strength...our drafts are built like heavyweight bodybuilders, not olympic sprinters....

Originally Posted by KRFJames

It's funny I always thought that HP was based on 1 actual horse, but it's a bit more technical I guess. Each of ours is equivalent to about 12HP (in pulling power, not at the PTO obviously). We have 4 and they can (together) pull about what a 40-50 HP tractor can pull. I have a 75HP Massey as well...mostly for loader work though and a few PTO implements. It's my JD 75G excavator I'll miss most if/when fuel runs out. Horses aren't suitable for digging!

I guess the graphic you shared is a bit different to as it applies to lifting off the ground as opposed to draft (pulling along the ground)...the pic you have makes sense but would be a bit complicated as well as it would be relative to the horse's weight and strength...our drafts are built like heavyweight bodybuilders, not olympic sprinters....

Can't eat your excavator or tractor when it dies, and neither can I! It's looking more and more like Donner Pass if one wants to survive!

If you're going to eat your horse, you're probably the type to eat out a girl, which means you're probably going to die in both cases.

Originally Posted by DangZagnut

If you're going to eat your horse, you're probably the type to eat out a girl, which means you're probably going to die in both cases.

At least I'm eating something, and that will make me last allot longer than the people eating nothing!

One thing's for certain, we're gonna have to eat our way past this crisis or not...

The tinned food and bags of rice, beans, and pet food are overflowing in my house. I work 29/30 days a month. Yet, my nose is barely above water. I can't get the parts needed to fix my failed central AC unit for 4 to 6 months after paying for them and used to be next day. I'm getting a little more prepped with each passing day.

Originally Posted by mgtower

Can't eat your excavator or tractor when it dies, and neither can I! It's looking more and more like Donner Pass if one wants to survive!

I'll try eating the excavator or tractor before the horses, that's for certain...if it gets to the point I have to eat the horses to survive, that isn't a future I consider worth living in...and I'm well prepared for that outcome as well.

Originally Posted by ChauvinistPig

The tinned food and bags of rice, beans, and pet food are overflowing in my house. I work 29/30 days a month. Yet, my nose is barely above water. I can't get the parts needed to fix my failed central AC unit for 4 to 6 months after paying for them and used to be next day. I'm getting a little more prepped with each passing day.

Isn't it nice where you save up enough to fix something, fix it, then the next thing breaks you have to save up for, and once you fix that the original thing breaks again, and its a never ending cycle.

Originally Posted by KRFJames

I'll try eating the excavator or tractor before the horses, that's for certain...if it gets to the point I have to eat the horses to survive, that isn't a future I consider worth living in...and I'm well prepared for that outcome as well.

When you put your mind to it, and a little spice, you can make anything taste like chicken...

Originally Posted by mgtower

What measures have you taken, what changes have you made?

Welp, my country has been going through shit show for last 3 years so I got used to it (Turkey).

-No eating outside,buy groceries and cook at home.
-No unnecessary traveling (I only drive car for necessary things like shopping,going to gym or family stuff..,they are always close distance)
-No unnecessary shopping,most of the monthly payments go to kitchen.
-Always shopping at mom&pop stores.No malls,brands etc.. (This saves you almost 20-30% of the money)

Also me getting into army 30 days later (mandatory service for 1 year) so its going to be the army paying for the food and bills,not me.Win win

Originally Posted by user97972

Welp, my country has been going through shit show for last 3 years so I got used to it (Turkey).

-No eating outside,buy groceries and cook at home.
-No unnecessary traveling (I only drive car for necessary things like shopping,going to gym or family stuff..,they are always close distance)
-No unnecessary shopping,most of the monthly payments go to kitchen.
-Always shopping at mom&pop stores.No malls,brands etc.. (This saves you almost 20-30% of the money)

Also me getting into army 30 days later (mandatory service for 1 year) so its going to be the army paying for the food and bills,not me.Win win

Lets hope the war to your north has an end in sight before more countries get drawn in.

Originally Posted by mgtower

Lets hope the war to your north has an end in sight before more countries get drawn in.

Personally IDGAF if the WW3 starts. Because I grew up inside a shithole economy with little to no possession apart from small things in my house and my engineering diploma so I don't mind seeing world fall apart,I have that much kind of hope for humanity.

Originally Posted by DangZagnut

I think the crashed economy and massively inflated prices will have much more of an issue than climate change. In don’t know anyone on top right now, and most people I know have lost all savings and are taking (or moving) toward second or third jobs.

So it seems that all those minimum wage that that were going unfilled the last couple years will soon be filled and the unemployment rate will go up.

I'm going to make serious bank with the financial moves I'm making in the bear market.

Originally Posted by DangZagnut

If you're going to eat your horse, you're probably the type to eat out a girl, which means you're probably going to die in both cases.

We are all going to die at some point, I can't see where horse meat will kill you. The French have been eating horse for a long time, I think both sides in WW1 ended up eating horse meat. You will have a choice; this is the other source of protein that will be offered:

EU clears way for insects to be sold as food | DW News - YouTube

Allegedly spotted in Allentown. 76 goes through there, a lot of trucks stop and refuel there before heading out into NYC, Newark, and other Northeastern Cities.

Originally Posted by RustyNuts

We are all going to die at some point, I can't see where horse meat will kill you. The French have been eating horse for a long time, I think both sides in WW1 ended up eating horse meat. You will have a choice; this is the other source of protein that will be offered:

EU clears way for insects to be sold as food | DW News - YouTube

I more meant that if you were going to eat your horse, you were probably in dire straights on a battlefield or in a trench somewhere. Much like people boiling and eating their boots for sustenance.

That was more how I meant it. Eating pussy was just a commentary on disease, so was saying in both cases the desperation probably leads to death.