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    From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

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    There are times when uninformed observers comment on MGTOW in a way that is bereft of judgment. It is typically a glib remark that wholly misunderstands what MGTOW is about. But when it is repeated ad nauseum, I need to say something. In this case, it goes something like "Well, I'm fine if people want to be MGTOW. But if they were truly going their own way, why do they need to talk about it all the time online."

    This observation stems from a total misunderstanding of MGTOW. Here's what is happening: they interpret the acronym literally - as men entirely disconnecting from society and other human beings. A very simplistic assessment of what MGTOW is, and one that is fundamentally wrong.

    MGTOW does not mean living a solitary life in a Unabomber shack. However, MGTOW is not a movement. It's not an organization or a group. So, then what is it.........?

    MGTOW is awareness
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    It is an awareness that something is very wrong with women today, for reasons we discuss, and that, in response, a man can live a fulfilling life by bucking social norms, defining his sense of self-worth in his own terms (a measure uninfluenced by "success" with women), and pursuing his life goals and interests fully without the compulsion to spend handfuls of time searching a for a "soul mate" that likely doesn't exist in the age of feminism. From this awareness, a culture or lifestyle develops. That is what we discuss. What shape does the culture take? It varies as widely as the participants but includes things like "What is an ideal travel destination for a bachelor?" or sharing ideas on male hobbies or discussing ideal sexual strategy for men in this camp- economizing female options through Recreational Game. MGTOWs are a unique breed- we are men who are unattached and uninterested in becoming attached. As such, we have unique preferences. We're neither interested in Disneyland travel packages set up for families, nor are we necessarily interested in all the standard "tips for single people" that are dispensed on sites for men that are about how to dress the right way to attract a woman. We discuss the topics one would if one's life was unencumbered by mothers-in-laws or arguing over who drives the kids to day care -- philosophy, books, comedy, movies, filing patents, surf trips, lazy weekends. Unlike married men, we actually get to watch movies we enjoy, not whichever movie can you can negotiate your wife to also watch. So we go deeper into these areas. To be fair to our critics, much of this living happens offline - something our critics can't see (and therefore lazily don't mentally process) and therefore they focus only on the discussions we have online - which they myopically assume is the totality of our existence.

    To recap, critics mistakenly believe that MGTOW is leaving society and everyone else behind, whereas in reality it is about disregarding society's pressure that a man needs a woman. When we make that singular decision, a different life follows. Though we are all different and take our own path, there is plenty of intersection because we all got off the same off-ramp. And there is much we can share and learn from each other. Society is set up for people who follow the default life script. That is why there are tons of service providers, travel planning, HR policies for men with families; there are tons of dating/adventure travel options for singles (I use "singles" in terms of men who are unattached but looking to get attached), bars for single people to meet up, dating sites, magazines for young men who are interested in overpaying for the right sunglasses that women are into. When you ignore this life script, you necessarily live an alternative lifestyle- and that requires discussion in order to best navigate it because there aren't well worn contours. We are building that lifestyle and culture thorough our investigations and then sharing it with the wider community.

    For lurkers, here's my "cartoon drawing" example if it's not clear by now. Let's say you broke with a social norm. Let's say you decided to only eat breakfast every meal of the day. Society is set up to serve steak and sushi for dinner, not omelettes. But if you felt there was nothing AM'ish about bacon and waffles, and it was fitting any minute of the day, you may want to share tips with other breakfast-addicts as to which restaurants actually have breakfast options at 9 PM, what places have the best syrup, etc. You would have to talk about it because the standard mainstream restaurant review sites like Yelp largely wouldn't.

    There is one more thing. In addition to trading notes on the MGTOW lifestyle, a key reason MGTOWs congregate is to examine the world as it is, women as they are, relationships as they've become. This is important because we're just about the only men who can objectively observe the descent of female behavior, due to feminism, because we're just about the only men who've tamed our sexual instinct. All other men are either too consumed by their sex drive to fault women (PUAs), following their sex drive into a bad decision (blue pillers) or trying to rationalize the bad decision they already made (guy with GF, married man). What our well-meaning but confused observers call 'complaining' is explaining. The culture is the water we swim in. Even if we ignore its dictates, feminist talking points find their way into everything from movie plot lines to signs at work. We observe, critique, and minimize the negative influence of an often ridiculously biased culture against us. MGTOWs are observers of culture; and its this keenly observant nature that allowed us to see the off-ramp from mainstream idiocy. We continue to keep our eyes open; that's the only way to navigate a world where 90% of the people (men and women) around us are sleepwalking with blue-pill feminist programming running through their minds.

    If you ever see someone who asks "Hurr Durr, why do MGTOWs feel a need to have a community and talk about it online", send them here .
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    Re: From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

    I find it refreshing to have a place to talk about ideas that don't fit the narrative. There really isn't anywhere else in mainstream society where these ideas can be discussed. Having websites like this give men a place to vent. The bottom-line is that feminism has made marrying women a very bad deal for the western man. The women provide nothing of value in return but they demand more than they command. That makes anything more than a "pump and dump" with women impossible if you care about your self-preservation.

    If I didn't have a place like this to "vent" with likeminded individuals, I don't know what I would do.
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    Re: From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post

    If I didn't have a place like this to "vent" with likeminded individuals, I don't know what I would do.
    Without like minded men that also suffer under the same hand of legislated tyranny as you do, you'd have no place to turn and you would continue stewing in the juices this ongoing and exacerbating tyranny.

    They need to face the fact that we collectively turned the same dogs of tyranny they used to destroy us, now turned on them, and with our hearts so hardened we hear not their pains and suffering as their own dogs tear them apart. It's a form of purified indifference fresh from the ovens of lawfully mandated feminism.

    Ladies, be careful what you cook, eventually you're gonna have to eat it.
    We are lawfully exiled by the alterations and changes made to this social compact called government, its body politic now cancerous and destructive to its own ends.

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    Re: From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    If I didn't have a place like this to "vent" with likeminded individuals, I don't know what I would do.
    You would survive, just like many of us did before discovering that there were others out there like us.

    It can be difficult and frustrating seeing things differently to those around you, but what we have in common is that we don’t hide from what we see and if what we see is confusing and seemingly contradictory we can come here and discuss it.

    Why do we need to congregate? Truth be known we don’t, but we like to.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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    Re: From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

    Everyone needs a friend

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    Re: From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

    I find this form of argumentation quite silly and also sinister.

    Silly because people of a similar mentality tend to gather in close proximity (in our case it is online).

    Sinister because what the enemies of MGTOW are trying to say is that a MGTOW should just "go his own way".

    But an authentic way to go one's way is actually a PROCESS, not an overnight decision. You need years and years of questioning, reflecting, and even professional help in some cases to work through your issues.

    I have been a bonafide MGTOW for 7 or 8 years, but what I know about the world, women, life, masculinity, existence is just a drop in the ocean.

    The fist few years of MGTOW are usually a right mess! because you are coming off all the addictions of the blue pill world. I mean the inaccurate beliefs about how women, work, society etc really works.

    MGTOW is not conversation you have and get saved instantly - it requires work!
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    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Re: From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

    They fight it because it undermines the hive

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    Re: From Best Of MGTOW: Hurr Durr..."If They're going their own way, why do they need to Congregate?"

    Quote Originally Posted by Warfish View Post
    They fight it because it undermines the hive
    You mean that thing men like us allover are dousing with gas and setting it on fire? They shouldn't have used paper and cardboard in its construction, at least the patriarchy used stone, concrete, and steel, in fact, the patriarchy's remains are the shell they crawl in for cover like a hermit crab.

    We are lawfully exiled by the alterations and changes made to this social compact called government, its body politic now cancerous and destructive to its own ends.

    A man is on his own, always was, always will be.


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