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    MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    This is a post about creeping doubts in a man's mind about going MGTOW. Its perhaps more aimed at young(ish) men, as I expect a lot of the more experienced guys don't have this issue anymore. I've been on my red-pill journey for about five years now, and truly took the red pill on women* somewhere between 1 and 2 years ago. Having come to this point through personal experience and later finding out the reasons behind it, I am 100% sure of the truth of the basics of MGTOW; women's hypergamy etc.

    However, whilst intellectually there is no doubt in my mind, emotionally I sometimes feels pangs of anxiety about the path I have chosen. What if I'm wrong? What if I'm writing off a happy life with a NAWALT that I just haven't found yet? I know this is a just a part of me that plays Devil's advocate; whatever I'm doing, he'll poke holes in it.

    Regardless, I find that visual evidence is the most effective at quietening this voice. With that, its useful for a man to keep his eyes open and look at the blue-pilled men around us to illustrate the horrors of the blue-pilled path. One thing I've noticed a lot lately is older women (50s and 60s) with looks that are very...feminist. Shaved heads, died hair, stud earings in one ear etc. A lot of these women I see with their husbands. Looking at this normal, respectable looking older gentleman, with his wife who is heavily overweight, one half of her head shaved and the other half's hair died green...I makes me think

    "That poor bast*rd. Imagine being tethered to her for the rest of your life. Imagine introducing her to colleagues and friends. Imagine telling people that this is your wife, this woman who has so little respect for you that she has purposefully made herself as visually unappealing as possible; couldn't care less how this looks for her husband who has to go around with her. This woman who is a mother and possibly grandmother, yet dresses like a 20 year old gender studies student who's campaigning for head of the campus LGBTQ+ society. Did he expect this when he married her? When she was young and possibly beautiful, did he think he'd spent his last 20/30 years supporting someone who has given up on any pretense of caring about how she looks for her husband?"

    I find seeing the downsides of the blue-pill path every day, looking for it when I got outside, helps remind me that I've made the right choice. It helps get me doubt-free and happy.

    Would do others think of this concept?

    *For me, taking the final red pill on women was understanding that women's behaviour in modern society is not just due to feminist brain-washing, it is in their nature. Women's nature has not been corrupted, it has been let loose. I took me a long time to accept this, but I did accept itwhen I realised how much stuff suddenly made sense.

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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    Quote Originally Posted by suspiciouscrow View Post
    Women's nature has not been corrupted, it has been let loose. I took me a long time to accept this, but I did accept itwhen I realised how much stuff suddenly made sense.
    As others have said, feminism didn't ruin women, it explained them.
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    This is a very interesting post with a lot of points I'd like to address. For starters, I think a lot of guys make the mistake of adding their own sensibilities to MGTOW. All MGTOW is to me is "Men Going Their Own Way". It's not political nor is it a movement. It is a philosophy of taking ownership of your life and not letting anyone but yourself choose your destiny.

    There are times when I question whether I'm wrong as well about women but then I remember that it is too dangerous. Whether or not there are "good women" is irrelevant because feminism took that choice to be involved from me. There is no choice in getting married for a man who values freedom overall. I do have to make sure I get my "daily dose of red-pills" by visiting MGTOW content regularly to reassure myself as I tend to be fickle and need reminders.

    These men who married these 50 to 60 year old, blue-haired women are really the problem. They put up with their behavior because they have no self-respect. As a man, I'll never put up with any woman who behaves in that fashion by letting herself go. I don't care what kind of laws there are either. The fact that these older men have this "cheaper to keep her" mentality is the problem.

    Overall the concept of making sure you are "going your own way" is one that needs constant reassurance as their will be constant distractions saying otherwise. You have to understand that the plantation can't allow too many men to do this. There will constantly be people telling you to get married and "settle down" because that is what is required for society to function. The matrix can't allow men to just do what they want.

    I feel that for a good majority of men, MGTOW isn't for them and would be destructive to them. The ugly reality is that some men were made to serve. That is their lot in life. I don't even think that is necessarily good or bad. It just is. I have said this before that I don't even want to wake most men up because my lifestyle is directly tied to them keeping society up and running.
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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    Quote Originally Posted by Bonobo Protocol View Post
    This is a very interesting post with a lot of points I'd like to address. For starters, I think a lot of guys make the mistake of adding their own sensibilities to MGTOW. All MGTOW is to me is "Men Going Their Own Way". It's not political nor is it a movement. It is a philosophy of taking ownership of your life and not letting anyone but yourself choose your destiny.

    There are times when I question whether I'm wrong as well about women but then I remember that it is too dangerous. Whether or not there are "good women" is irrelevant because feminism took that choice to be involved from me. There is no choice in getting married for a man who values freedom overall. I do have to make sure I get my "daily dose of red-pills" by visiting MGTOW content regularly to reassure myself as I tend to be fickle and need reminders.

    These men who married these 50 to 60 year old, blue-haired women are really the problem. They put up with their behavior because they have no self-respect. As a man, I'll never put up with any woman who behaves in that fashion by letting herself go. I don't care what kind of laws there are either. The fact that these older men have this "cheaper to keep her" mentality is the problem.

    Overall the concept of making sure you are "going your own way" is one that needs constant reassurance as their will be constant distractions saying otherwise. You have to understand that the plantation can't allow too many men to do this. There will constantly be people telling you to get married and "settle down" because that is what is required for society to function. The matrix can't allow men to just do what they want.

    I feel that for a good majority of men, MGTOW isn't for them and would be destructive to them. The ugly reality is that some men were made to serve. That is their lot in life. I don't even think that is necessarily good or bad. It just is. I have said this before that I don't even want to wake most men up because my lifestyle is directly tied to them keeping society up and running.
    Thank you for your thoughts. Your post is interesting to read and it is reassuring to know that other MGTOW also need to remind themselves of the truth.

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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    Giving up on women has saved me unknown hardships, drama, and psychological injury.

    It was a no brainer then, and more so a no brainer now.

    I can honestly say I put all my chips on a winning horse named MGTOW.

    That other timeline that I didn't walk? I shall never walk. My life's life tokens are well spent, not squandered on fairy tales from a wonderland that doesn't exist.
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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    Quote Originally Posted by suspiciouscrow View Post
    However, whilst intellectually there is no doubt in my mind, emotionally I sometimes feels pangs of anxiety about the path I have chosen. What if I'm wrong? What if I'm writing off a happy life with a NAWALT that I just haven't found yet? I know this is a just a part of me that plays Devil's advocate; whatever I'm doing, he'll poke holes in it.
    We make choices. For every choice we make another option is shut off, sometimes forever. This is life.


    My advice – do not be overly concerned with this questioning of having made the right decision, it is a big one after all. It is perfectly natural. The grass is always greener …


    For some of us we got the shock treatment. Events dictated our final acceptance of how the world works today. For other’s we seen it before it was too late. But all of us for whatever reason began the journey of questioning what we have been told to accept, in essence to question our own beliefs.


    I believe this to be a healthy sign and why should it stop? To believe that one has all the answers is delusional at best. This introspection is possibly the thing that brought you to MGTOW. We should always question our motives, but only up to a point. I know from experience that it is possible to be too introspective; it can get obsessive.


    I have been celibate for many years now, but casting my mind back my thoughts about “Am I doing the right thing?” went something like this:


    Sometimes this would happen when I was out socialising. I’d get an urge so to speak. I’d come across a woman that grabbed my attention and suddenly I’d be thinking: “Maybe I’m wrong, I would really like to get to know this one better, to hell with the lot of it let’s throw caution to the wind” and what with alcohol usually being involved my rationality would be somewhat impaired to say the least. But thankfully there was always a sign that brought me back to my senses. It could be something simple like a look in the eye or a tone of voice but that would be enough to trigger what I knew about women and relationships and suddenly I would see things in a whole new light. She suddenly wasn’t as attractive as I had previously thought.


    Other times I would be alone and thinking “Maybe it would be nice to have a woman about the place again!” I would spend hours thinking it out and always come to the same conclusion: MGTOW is the only way. I didn’t have a name for it at the time, but what’s in a name?


    After this had happened maybe half a dozen times I began to see that I was just going over old ground time and again always coming to the same conclusion – personal relationships with women are bad news.


    So having noticed this I finally accepted it totally. Except. Every now and again even after all these years I still have that question pop into my head occasionally and I can now tell myself: I’ve thought this through so many times before and always came to the same conclusion, what’s the point in doing it again?


    And then I do it all over again.


    And I ALWAYS come to the same conclusion. After 20 years or thereabouts. For a man, the ONLY way is the MGTOW way. Anything else is self-delusional.

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    "That poor bast*rd. Imagine being tethered to her for the rest of your life. Imagine introducing her to colleagues and friends. Imagine telling people that this is your wife, this woman who has so little respect for you that she has purposefully made herself as visually unappealing as possible; couldn't care less how this looks for her husband who has to go around with her.
    This made me think about this blonde girl I dated when she was in her twenties. She was hot, we had a lot of fun together. It didn't last but I read an article by her about 7-8 years later or so how she was getting married. It was a feminist piece about how she refused to lose weight for her wedding! She ballooned up in weight massively, hardly looked like her former self. Not only didn't she care about her appearance but the attitude to go along with it (which she never was like when we were together)- as if saddling her husband with a land whale was one way to "get back at society" for body-shaming women.

    Her and I got together in the back seat of my car and had wild sex all kinds of places, and this schlub, her husband, is going to get what exactly? She works in a dying industry and her husband is a nurse or something- so at least he brings in a steady paycheck.

    LTR's don't work anymore because women want to a) fool around, and then b) marry whatever guy will pay the massive expense of children as well as split duties taking care of them (which is their focus, not the mangina). I'm pretty sure she is not saying stuff like "you can do whatever you want to me" to her consolation prize/roommate/bill-payer husband.

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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    This made me think about this blonde girl I dated when she was in her twenties. She was hot, we had a lot of fun together. It didn't last but I read an article by her about 7-8 years later or so how she was getting married. It was a feminist piece about how she refused to lose weight for her wedding! She ballooned up in weight massively, hardly looked like her former self. Not only didn't she care about her appearance but the attitude to go along with it (which she never was like when we were together)- as if saddling her husband with a land whale was one way to "get back at society" for body-shaming women.

    Her and I got together in the back seat of my car and had wild sex all kinds of places, and this schlub, her husband, is going to get what exactly? She works in a dying industry and her husband is a nurse or something- so at least he brings in a steady paycheck.

    LTR's don't work anymore because women want to a) fool around, and then b) marry whatever guy will pay the massive expense of children as well as split duties taking care of them (which is their focus, not the mangina). I'm pretty sure she is not saying stuff like "you can do whatever you want to me" to her consolation prize/roommate/bill-payer husband.
    But I can only guess the blubberhog still wears lipstick, I bet it's in hopes that it'll attract a cock, because it's the only hole still accessible.

    Her husband is by definition (my definition) a Mumford O'Crowley, saver, feeder, and supporter of lost cattle and their calf.
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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    You may wish to visit "Alex on Life's" YouTube channel. He visits female nature in no uncertain terms.

    I been on the journey for 6 years now - in my early 30's and I would undoubtedly admit that the tinge of doubt and uncertainty lays in my own psyche. Yet, the true conviction is following one's decision (provided it is made with sound reasoning) and move headstrong against the forces laid before us against the brainwashing and conditioning control mechanisms of gynocentric societies.

    In the end - if you lose, if you fail, if you utterly consider your life a waste - take great and immense pleasure in knowing it was due to your own decisions. Not the suffering caused by some ratchet whore that played her cards right come epiphany phase.
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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    Quote Originally Posted by BilBoRing View Post
    You may wish to visit "Alex on Life's" YouTube channel. He visits female nature in no uncertain terms.

    I been on the journey for 6 years now - in my early 30's and I would undoubtedly admit that the tinge of doubt and uncertainty lays in my own psyche. Yet, the true conviction is following one's decision (provided it is made with sound reasoning) and move headstrong against the forces laid before us against the brainwashing and conditioning control mechanisms of gynocentric societies.

    In the end - if you lose, if you fail, if you utterly consider your life a waste - take great and immense pleasure in knowing it was due to your own decisions. Not the suffering caused by some ratchet whore that played her cards right come epiphany phase.
    If you're ever having doubts about MGTOW, wait a while, some random women will do some random thing that women do and you'll consider twice before you jump off the train. In other words, make sure you leave enough slack in the rope that they can tie a noose and hang themselves.
    I haven't been disapointed yet, and I'm on year 23 of this practice and observation.
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    Re: MGTOW: Being Happy with The Path

    I've always been going my own way since I was a kid. I never fitted in nor did I care. And this was well before the term MGTOW existed. I am comfortable with my path because and I know this will sound cheesy but I feel like I am where I am supposed to be. Most of the bullshit I have been through in my life is when I have tried to be someone I am not or abandoned my own key personal values.

    Regardless whether a man is MGTOW or not or what the subject is the best question we can ask ourselves is WHY? Why do you want to chase this woman? Is it just to have an orgasm? If so, you can do that yourself, you don't need to involve someone else and play stupid games. You think you love her? Why? etc etc

    I am not being judgmental, everyone has to choose their own path but understand why you are choosing that path. Someone people do things just because that is "how I was raised" which is seriously weak thinking. People just need to think about why they want what they think they want.


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