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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Gee, look at who was right about r/MGTOW going down after my ban...up since what 2011, and I was right within about a week...of this happening?

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    I was banned on r/MGTOW, 2 months later some random reply from a mod with a slap on wrist before getting unblocked. I felt like it was a walk on eggshells and sure enough I got blocked again. I never bothered again.

    There is a r/mgtow2 forum, and they have a sticky for all members banned without a just cause.

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    I never go over there, but I've been reading there the last hour. The usual and trite remarks from those who criticize MGTOW are many. Why do they (women, it seems) seek out a site they dislike? Is it that Chad bad boy moth-to-a-flame thing? Are MGTOWs viewed as Chads of a sort?

    If MGTOW critics are so superior, why are they there? The volume of them there is more than I'd expect. You'd think the Venn diagram of two circles (one MGTOW, the other the critics) would not overlap, to hear them insult. These critics of MGTOW cannot go their own way?

    But, reddit is huge and I know the score. Heavy on pretense, people can be. And people love a playground fight. We must be a hugely bored population.

    They say, I can't change my opinion of you. Only you can. And you can't change your opinion of me. Only I can.

    It is always under our personal control, how to behave. Subject to one's maturity learning curve, I suppose. But also it is affected by the company you choose to keep.

    Here's one fellow's post that reminded me of what sirreaper said about a dumpster fire:

    Good riddance. And this is from someone who was in the sub before it had 1k followers. The mods let the hate overcome the original philosophies(which I would argue were good).

    MGTOW since the last year had been a trash fire, so much hate. It hadn't started as one, but evolved into a hate subreddit, no question about it.
    Sounds there like a moderation issue to me, Jack.

    One fellow posted to claim that the quarantine was a direct result of MGTOW being maligned publicly in a 01/30/2020 v*ce.com article (to which I won't link, sorry, you can search) from which I quote here (emphasis mine):

    The search history also reveals Hasson’s deep familiarity with the conspiracies, memes, and ideas driving the modern, global far right. For example, his most frequently visited website was the subreddit “Men Going Their Own Way” (MGTOW), an online misogynistic hub, which he visited “tens of thousands of times” between 2017 and 2019, according to a 120-page report from the Department of Homeland Security’s “Insider Threat Division.”
    Huh? Well, that's what that website spins it to say. The phrase an online misogyinistic hub is not in quotes in the article therefore it's the website saying that and not from the 120-page report, or you can bet it would have been quoted. Just sayin'.

    I also stumbled upon a subreddit screen that said some other forum there I was attempting to access was quarantined but I could log in to continue. For those familiar with reddit, let me ask you, is that all that quarantining does, is close public viewing? If that's all, well there are a lot of innocent G-rated sites on the web where membership is restricted like that, so on the surface that doesn't sound like a bad thing necessarily? Perhaps any of you reading can clarify this situation for me? Is a reddit quarantine merely an interim measure before banishment, or can sites fix whatever issues and return?

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    I also stumbled upon a subreddit screen that said some other forum there I was attempting to access was quarantined but I could log in to continue. For those familiar with reddit, let me ask you, is that all that quarantining does, is close public viewing? If that's all, well there are a lot of innocent G-rated sites on the web where membership is restricted like that, so on the surface that doesn't sound like a bad thing necessarily? Perhaps any of you reading can clarify this situation for me? Is a reddit quarantine merely an interim measure before banishment, or can sites fix whatever issues and return?

    Is it Prognosis Negative? <--- Seinfeld reference, ha.
    I think it means a whole lot restrictions than just "close to public view", though I can view it without logging in from here. Some of the restrictions I heard of are, they wont get to know their stats (number of subscribers to subreddit etc..), reddit will never ever promote them regardless of how popular they are, and maybe some more I dont know of.

    And about prognosis, based on what I read, yeah I think its quite negative. One post somewhere there was saying that quarantine means they are looking for a reason to drop the banhammer.
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    r/MGTOW is gone. MGTOW.com is just there with no action. Looks like this place is the best.

    There is r/MGTOW2 but that place is PC hell. You can't even use the term "Chad".

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Hmm... if there is a new migration to here from guys over there who are not already members here, before they show up all six guns shooting up the saloon I may make them read the Principles first thing, to realize that not all behaviors have transfer credits.
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Hmm... if there is a new migration to here from guys over there who are not already members here, before they show up all six guns shooting up the saloon I may make them read the Principles first thing, to realize that not all behaviors have transfer credits.
    I lurk there all the time, but never posted anything or interacted there in any way, so I may be a bit off the mark. Some difference(s) which I can see right away in the rules of here vs there :

    - They have much higher tolerance for political discussion.
    - They have much lower tolerance for LGBTQ.

    But all that pales in comparison to :

    - They are used to a platform where anybody can come in and post. If there is any problematic post, it may or may not be removed. Any furthur action by moderators may be taken without giving any explanation (which probably caused this thread here in the first place). This means they are like some crowded eating joint as opposed to a quiet and members-only club.
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    - They have much higher tolerance for political discussion.
    LOL. I like how you put that! Not to be confused with comportment, no doubt!
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    LOL. I like how you put that! Not to be confused with comportment, no doubt!
    Yeah I meant only the rules and behavior of mods, not of the posters. And the reason why I pointed out those two rules specifically, because they were the most confusing aspects of differences (atleast to me) :

    1. Politics:
    It is not clearly written in the Principles page, its mentioned in a post, which is in a link of Lounge-Stickies, and not all links there point to rules. I'd suggest to separate the rules away from other things there (eg: proof of feminism being hate movement), because rules should be a must-read for new members but many potential members may already believe that feminism is hate (I for one, did). Also, the rule should be made more explicit IMHO on what is okay and not okay. I mean politics, in casual terms, may refer to behavior of a group of people in a community. This makes MGTOW itself, a political term.

    2. LGBTQ:
    Most of the criticism against this, is usually against the "T" doing weird and undesirable things publicly like indoctrinating children etc. I rarely see any criticism against actually being "LGB", as many MGTOWs already understand that it would be violating personal preferences of an individual. This is usually the stance, but things often spill over, during the course of discussion, and some people may actually post things like calling or LGBTQ degenerates or whatever. The difference between other places and this forum is, that those spill overs are much less tolerated here by the mods than in other places.

    Again, all this matters little in other places because there is no restriction on who can post, so good discussions may very well become a "shit show". And this problem is already solved here, so overall I dont think its that much of a deal, my intention was to give a heads up to you, since you are the most active mod here AFAIK, and it will often be you who will be dishing out warnings and bans if rules are violated. So if you make the above two rules more explicit and visible, then it may prove to be useful.
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Including things like breathing, being happy, or by just being alive in general !!!
    Well certainly. Human beings who merely EXIST who are capable of wrong-think are the ultimate threat to the alt-left Neo-Marxists. They're going to do socialism right this time, because Che Guevara. Not like those other guys who killed millions.
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    What they don't realize is that the fight for knowledge has been going on for a while now. It is clear that men going their own way by regaining their freedom is a direct threat to those that support blue pill values.

    My advice to those of r/mgtow.

    Become a hydra and spread knowledge far and wide on the internet.

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Sometimes some of the posts on r/MGTOW had a IGTOW stench... Incels Going Their Own Way.
    Or maybe it was just little old me hahahaha.
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    Sometimes some of the posts on r/MGTOW had a IGTOW stench... Incels Going Their Own Way.
    Or maybe it was just little old me hahahaha.
    What is your opinion on Incels?

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Hmm... if there is a new migration to here from guys over there who are not already members here, before they show up all six guns shooting up the saloon I may make them read the Principles first thing, to realize that not all behaviors have transfer credits.
    I think they are starting to arrive.
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Sometimes some of the posts on r/MGTOW had a IGTOW stench... Incels Going Their Own Way.
    Or maybe it was just little old me hahahaha.
    Quote Originally Posted by Tomatoshadow2 View Post
    What is your opinion on Incels?
    Not to butt in, but I think the word "stench" is a dead give away!
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Not to butt in, but I think the word "stench" is a dead give away!
    I also wasn't tried to stir anything up with my question, was just curious of others opinions on that movement, so wasn't trying to lose Unboxxed or mgtower's respect. I think those younger men, are learning the hard way no woman is worth it.

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    The knowledge is going to spread faster now because if you compare the knowledge of now compared to lets say 2012 I think it is widespread. Also I think that the current world events are leading into a faster epiphany for many men that business as usual is no more.

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    I was following since it had less than 20k subscribers in 2016 and it's how I discovered MGTOW. I saw the quality of content go downhill over time but I still lurked because there was still good stuff in there and I was watching the subscriber count increase almost exponentially. Just before it got quarantined it had almost 150K subscribers and was consistently gaining up to 500 subscribers a day. I knew they would have to put a stop to that asap. I hope the community finds another way to spread the message.

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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by UnFucked View Post
    I was following since it had less than 20k subscribers in 2016 and it's how I discovered MGTOW. I saw the quality of content go downhill over time but I still lurked because there was still good stuff in there and I was watching the subscriber count increase almost exponentially. Just before it got quarantined it had almost 150K subscribers and was consistently gaining up to 500 subscribers a day. I knew they would have to put a stop to that asap. I hope the community finds another way to spread the message.
    500 a day? Good grief. What tour bus showed up? Or what cruise ship docked? Or did reddit have a coupon sale? Seriously, where do you think they came from?
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    Re: r/MGTOW is a dumpster fire

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    500 a day? Good grief. What tour bus showed up? Or what cruise ship docked? Or did reddit have a coupon sale? Seriously, where do you think they came from?
    Imagine 500 new posts in new member intro section a day !!
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