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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    The pictures are well made especially for someone whos not a pro.
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    Personally I believe that it needs more of a build-up when it comes of the guys fighting, the girls getting drinks for both and then using each other to get rid of them could be an option.
    Thanks. In case of human figures though, I've been practicing a lot of anatomy since the beginning of my self art training (4-5 years now), so that was something, I am not pro, but not complete beginner either.

    But outside that, in case of comics, I am quite green. I have no practice/experience of writing, working with comic templates, and other small things which can enhance the experience for the reader. Some of these I can now fix after working on this, especially the comic templates, because now I learnt how to work with them. This one I made in a very ad-hoc style.

    Regarding the context of them fighting, yeah this is a common concern, not only from people on this forum but even from my real life friends. Which means I need to devote more practice and time on writing and storyboarding (which I didnt do in this one).

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    Regarding the content I would cut any hint of violence toward women for two reasons being the first one that it would alienate potential supporter and potential sharing of it within mainstream channels.

    The second one is clearly that for no reason feminists should be able to shame and use emotions to avoid addressing the main point which is the girl being the reason forr the mess in the bar.
    This again brings more weight to better writing and storyboarding. Not only I have to drive home some point, but also work within the constraints. This comic was again, the case where I actually worked with a lot of constraints. In all my art before, I was mainly sharing with my close friends, and I had no constraints, and I did draw lots of stuff which will go in line with mgtower's comment above..

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    I'd second that statement, This meme I created got reported and banned as "hate speech" by Facebook a while back despite the fact it's nothing of the sort. The bar for "hate speech is VERY low these days.
    While I agree that I should put more constraints on myself, I dont think I will be able meet facebook/twitter "hate speech" laws and still be able to do anything and not finding it very "soft" or "dull" or "entirely missing the point", atleast not in near future. A much more realistic goal for me, probably, is to make something which is acceptable to atleast purple pill. But this is something I have to experiment with. I will try to keep all these points in mind when I decide to work on the next one.

    Last, but not least, really appreciate the feedback !
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    If you look around you, all those women you see talking to their phones, are the reason why some things get banned while others that should be, are too numerous to number! The entire system soup to nuts is geared around the empowerment of women, their cult like cohesion and belief systems have inundated the educational system, the dismal numbers in comparison to when men dominated the education system are all etched in the granite of history and facts.

    Empowerment corrupts

    Absolute empowerment, corrupts absolutely.

    Feminism is tyranny.



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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    This might be a good topic for a comic, cuz its true. Some woman is selling candles that sell like her vagina for $75

    https://www.pedestrian.tv/home/goop-vagina-candle/

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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    This might be a good topic for a comic, cuz its true. Some woman is selling candles that sell like her vagina for $75

    https://www.pedestrian.tv/home/goop-vagina-candle/
    Oh I'd love to draw some parts of that comic in very high resolution detail, but then wont be able to post !!
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by FrankS View Post
    This might be a good topic for a comic, cuz its true. Some woman is selling candles that sell like her vagina for $75

    https://www.pedestrian.tv/home/goop-vagina-candle/
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    I like the cartoon strip. First off, it's a cartoon - so there is a certain creative license there. Secondly, the thug-alpha throwing her into the garbage can is clearly metaphorical.
    As for censorship... it's all over the place now. But the schadenfreude happens when radical feminists get censored, blocked and even banned from social media for posting anti-trans material. The regressive left is a massive snake that now seems to be eating itself tail first!

    I, for one, plan to get out the GOOD popcorn for this show!
    - Feminism is Cancer.
    - Where have all the good men gone? Away. Far far away... from you.
    - NAWALT? Maybe, but EWALT means Russian Roulette is a much safer bet...

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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    I like the cartoon strip. First off, it's a cartoon - so there is a certain creative license there. Secondly, the thug-alpha throwing her into the garbage can is clearly metaphorical.
    As for censorship... it's all over the place now.
    Thanks !

    The extreme levels of censorship + blue pill conditioning is the reason why I'll prefer to target audience which are already MGTOW (or red-pilled in general). That way I have more creative freedom, and we can all have a laugh without unnecessary noise of shaming and moralizing. When it comes to spreading MGTOW/red-pill to blue pill simps, I am extremely pessimistic. I dont believe it can ever work outside a very small fraction of people, which is why I see very little point in trying.

    I am not against helping fellow men save themselves, its just that I believe that trying to teach them or affect them by any normal media, is a very very inefficient strategy. I am more into cracking jokes with friends, and very little into swaying unknown strangers' world view.
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    MGTOW is about making no mistakes against gynocentrism.

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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Please do. Many years ago we created one. The blog needs to be updated as the comic is no longer showing. But you can see the comic here:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comme..._the_good_men/

    I wrote a bunch of scripts at the time. I'll post them here for the heck of it. We made the comic based on Idea 6.

    F= Frame

    --
    Idea 1 “Picky” (A)

    1-frame comic that shows a seemingly endless number of women used up after carousel (stuff on face, panties around thighs, hair dissheveled) holding up signs “My cock count is over 100”, “Seeking doormat husband who wants kids and can pay for them”, “Nice guys are boring”, “Don’t mansplain to me!”.

    Old man (looking away from group) saying to young men, “You’re still single? You’re too picky!”

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    Idea 2 “You can do Better” (A/B)

    Woman2 to Woman1: “He’s too short” (w/boyfriend 1)
    Woman 2 to Woman1: “You can do better! You’re beautiful!” (w/boyfriend 2)
    Woman 2 to Woman1: “Hey check out Chad, he’s looking towards you!” (w/boyfriend 3)

    2 old ladies in retirement home titled “Spinster-dom”
    Frame 4 both sitting
    Frame 5- old man walks by, Woman 2 says instinctively while knitting “He’s too old”
    --
    Idea 3 “How did he know??” (B)
    F1 - Woman 1 to Woman2: “Brian doesn’t know how many guys I’ve had. He’ll never find out.” (both girls laugh)
    F2 - Woman1 on date with Brian. She says:
    “I want a guy who’ll actually return my texts”
    “Guy needs to be X and Y and Z”
    “I can’t trust men”
    “My Ex used to….”
    “What’s that on your phone...is it another girl?”

    F3 - Guy leaves

    F4- W1 to W2- “How did he know?”
    --
    Idea 4 - The Leg Humper (A)

    F1- Short woman desperately trying to get attention of alpha, with five other women competing
    F2- Short woman jumping waving hands in alpha’s face.
    F3- Short woman presenting like an ape
    F4- Short woman leg humping alpha, with other women backing away gingerly
    F5- (New Locale) Short woman holding up sign “Woman Deserve Respect!”; two men facepalming. (other sign “Lean In”)

    --
    Idea 5 - The Bachelorette (B)

    F1- Single woman - “I love being single! I wouldn’t have it any other way”
    F2- I’m self conscious about dining out alone, or going out by myself so I pretty much stay in my apt.
    F3- My friends all are married. But at least I can see pics of their cute kids on Facebook! (uncertain expression, tissues)
    F4- Men value solitude but I like to talk things out. Isn’t that right Bella? (cat escapes) newspaper headline showing ‘save the cats’”
    F5- Boxed wine and dildo on table. “Its...well…….”
    F6- Zoom out with her in her apartment alone; head down.

    Idea 6 - “Where all the Good Men?” (A)
    (in all frames a group of decent guys are talking with each other)
    F1- Douche 1 takes girl to bed
    F2- Douche 1 walks away, girl says ‘call me’
    F3- Douche 2 takes girl to bed
    F4- Douche 2 laughs, goes up to another girl, (his girl holds up finger ‘wait’)
    F5- Girl with stuff on face, panty around thighs, hair dissheveled to another girl “Where are all the good men?”
    F6- Girl makes eyes with Douche 3.
    --

    Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)



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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Please do. Many years ago we created one. The blog needs to be updated as the comic is no longer showing. But you can see the comic here:

    https://www.reddit.com/r/MGTOW/comme..._the_good_men/

    I wrote a bunch of scripts at the time. I'll post them here for the heck of it. We made the comic based on Idea 6.

    F= Frame
    ...
    Those ideas are amazing !!! Gonna work on them in order, starting from idea 1 (will skip idea 6 since its already done).

    One question though, what is (A), (B) and (A/B) ? I tried googling but didnt help.
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Regret the way late response. A and B were just my internal scoring of the quality of the script; A meaning higher priority and B is lower priority. A/B was somewhere in between. So basically I thought I would start with the A scripts and then afterwards move to the B-tier scripts.

    Some of you may be wondering -- who is this Jagrmeister guy? Have a look at some of my posts from MGTOW Forums--> Jagr Archive (collection of my articles)



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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Regret the way late response. A and B were just my internal scoring of the quality of the script; A meaning higher priority and B is lower priority. A/B was somewhere in between. So basically I thought I would start with the A scripts and then afterwards move to the B-tier scripts.
    Ah okay, so its good I started with first, its A tier. Its about 75% done, roughly. Its the largest number of human figures I have drawn inside a single image, around 50+ !
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    Ok so this is the current state. Before I do anything else (if needed), I thought I should ask for others' opinion. Because I spent quite some time drawing it, I might not be able to notice some obvious problems :

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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    The only noticeable discrepancy I find are the white buildings in the background, IMHO they should be grey and liberal feminist mainstream media helicopters should be on the feminists side. But that's only a suggestion, and reality.
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    The only noticeable discrepancy I find are the white buildings in the background, IMHO they should be grey and liberal feminist mainstream media helicopters should be on the feminists side. But that's only a suggestion, and reality.
    The color thing came to my mind, and I was about to paint them grey. But there is this thing called "atmospheric perspective" in art, which means that the color of atmosphere/air (sky in this case) blends in with the color of distant objects. Which is why I left them as it is. EDIT: I will later post a version with grey colored ones too. And this is the point of my post, to see which things can be changed. Its like a beta release of software !

    Regarding helicopters, its a nice idea !
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    liberal feminist mainstream media helicopters should be on the feminists side.
    and maybe a biplane with a trailing banner?

    Must say, I'm really impressed - I just wish I had half your talent.
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    and maybe a biplane with a trailing banner?

    Must say, I'm really impressed - I just wish I had half your talent.
    Thanks, but I am a bit... greedy you can say... when it comes to accumulating talent for something I like to do, I see myself as very very bad, and lots of things to learn !!!

    Yeah, things flying around with banners and all is something I can put into this, will do it after I get response from Jagr, after all it was his script, so I'll wait for him to reply.

    Regarding talent to draw, I have one very interesting observation. Because my main job/skill is programming, and you also know programming you will know what I mean. In programming, atleast in modern times, the challenge presents itself only in later stages when you actually get into some real job. In tutorial stages, its easy to simply read the tutorial and copy the code and print the hello world, create a blank window, etc. This is why the difficulty of coding is often underrated.

    In drawing/painting, opposite happens. The first month is the MOST DIFFICULT stage by FAR !!! Its because your brain isnt trained to see things the way which can then be reproduced on a two dimensional canvas. And its because of biological efficiency. The default is very efficient in terms of energy required to process the visual input. But this results in difficulty of art, getting way overrated by non-artists. I am not saying that if you go into fine arts you will become Michelangelo in few months, but the "scary phase" will go away. After that it will be relatively smooth journey.
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