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    MGTOW comics ideas

    So I've been thinking for sometime now to try my hand drawing some comics. Its been around 4.5 years since I learnt how to draw and paint (digital only), but most of it has been from the pov of making games. Which means more focus on things which are useful in 3d and animation (like correct anatomy, depicting motion instead of static, etc). But I have tried my best to keep my 2D drawing/painting skills from dulling away, by periodically practicing it every now and then.

    And now is one of those times, where I'd like to try something I havent done yet, and that is comics. And seeing that there is a "Comic" section on this forum, which only has one very old post, I thought why not ask people here if they are interested. Also being a weird person in real life (read: basement nerd), I have experiences in life which differ a lot from normal people, and this makes it a lot harder for me to come up with something on my own which people can relate to, atleast first few times.

    So if any of you are interested, and have any ideas for a 1-2 page mgtow/redpill related comic, feel free to post it here !
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Do it! We need MGTOW comics! Piss allover Marvel! Like those badboy logos but comics!


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    A "Rescue force Alpha!" type deal where they just let the bitches burn or drown, because legal liability.

    A club bouncer who handles bar fights by throwing out the chick that caused it (there's always a woman behind it).

    Or a super-villian: the chocolatier. I remember seeing a comedy thing about it. Dude is in court, the judge and both lawyers are all women. He confesses to everything. But he has a briefcase - it's full of chocolate. The judge dismisses the case and all the women in the courtroom fall on the briefcase.

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    Sounds like a great idea, looking forward to seeing some.

    As for ideas, how about our MGTOW Dictionary, I'm sure you could find some inspiration there.

    I'm thinking a series of short scenarios with the last frame or two ending up with the guy joining the ranks of MGTOW after seeing a particular truth.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    A "Rescue force Alpha!" type deal where they just let the bitches burn or drown, because legal liability.

    A club bouncer who handles bar fights by throwing out the chick that caused it (there's always a woman behind it).

    Or a super-villian: the chocolatier. I remember seeing a comedy thing about it. Dude is in court, the judge and both lawyers are all women. He confesses to everything. But he has a briefcase - it's full of chocolate. The judge dismisses the case and all the women in the courtroom fall on the briefcase.
    The first one is very dark, I mean I am not very confident in my ability to make it light hearted enough...

    Second and third looks interesting, gonna give them a try.

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    As for ideas, how about our MGTOW Dictionary, I'm sure you could find some inspiration there.

    I'm thinking a series of short scenarios with the last frame or two ending up with the guy joining the ranks of MGTOW after seeing a particular truth.
    Yeah that sounds a good idea, not only for comics, but even for some 3d practice later on (like rendering scenarios and characters) !!!

    Meanwhile, something I came up with today :

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    A club bouncer who handles bar fights by throwing out the chick that caused it (there's always a woman behind it).
    Finished a (very) short comics on that idea. There are no dialogues/speech bubbles though, I tried to express the situation just from the pictures. I dont know how ppl approach each other in bars... So instead of writing a bunch of dorky/cringy dialogues for that situation, I wanted to share the images first. Tell me if you guys think it feels a bit empty without them.

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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Finished a (very) short comics on that idea. There are no dialogues/speech bubbles though, I tried to express the situation just from the pictures. I dont know how ppl approach each other in bars... So instead of writing a bunch of dorky/cringy dialogues for that situation, I wanted to share the images first. Tell me if you guys think it feels a bit empty without them.

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    Honestly? I should end with her eagerly sucking Hulk Hooligan's dick behind a dumpster.

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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    If you want my opinion, when you do MGTOW comics you not only are transmitting red pill info but an image of what MGTOW is all about. And I dont think its about putting a women on trash cans, its more like avoid their bullshit.

    So I would suggest the comic to end with her outside scratching her head while the guys appreciate their beers in peace.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    If you want my opinion, when you do MGTOW comics you not only are transmitting red pill info but an image of what MGTOW is all about. And I dont think its about putting a women on trash cans, its more like avoid their bullshit.

    So I would suggest the comic to end with her outside scratching her head while the guys appreciate their beers in peace.
    I get where you are coming from, and even I was thinking if the last image is okay or not. The first thing that came to my mind is that I may probably be violating the negativity/violence against women rule of this forum, though my intention was hilarity. I avoided depicting any injury or even things like dents on the surface of the trash bin, which would've suggested impact much more strongly.

    Secondly, if you water down the art, it loses its message. The trash can is meant to be a symbol. Its meant to highlight that men should get rid of women, especially problematic women, just like they get rid of trash. Because, just like trash, they dont have any productive value, and can cause furthur harm.

    Lastly, as long as I dont violate the forum rules, I dont think the image of MGTOW is relevant anywhere. If there is some blue pill person here, its likely he/she will assume we are all bunch of incels, so why even bother. And if there is some red pill person here, he should be able to understand that the purpose of that comic is humor, and not to be taken literally. Also, the first thing we learn about MGTOW is that there is no one-way, so anything I write or draw represents not MGTOW but MY version of MGTOW. The fellow MGTOW is expected to know that imho.
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    the first thing we learn about MGTOW is that there is no one-way, so anything I write or draw represents not MGTOW but MY version of MGTOW. The fellow MGTOW is expected to know that imho.
    Hey! I all for your right to draw whatever you want, in fact I think this site's rules are too strict; if you cannot express yourself freely in a MGTOW site, were can you?
    That been said, what is your intention? Do you want to draw for your pleasure, for the pleasure of MGTOWs or to spread MGTOW philosophy?
    It was in the sense of the later that I was speaking, because in that case you have to consider preexisting blue pill conditioning. A thing that can be obviously misinterpreted is not what you want, regardless of your intention.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    Hey! I all for your right to draw whatever you want, in fact I think this site's rules are too strict; if you cannot express yourself freely in a MGTOW site, were can you?
    That been said, what is your intention? Do you want to draw for your pleasure, for the pleasure of MGTOWs or to spread MGTOW philosophy?
    It was in the sense of the later that I was speaking, because in that case you have to consider preexisting blue pill conditioning. A thing that can be obviously misinterpreted is not what you want, regardless of your intention.
    My intention with this comic, was first and foremost to learn how to draw comics.

    This is literally my first comics which I drew. I learn art entirely on my own with absolutely no human guidance. Sure I can look around and interact with people on art forums etc, but the level of blue pill in there will get on my nerves, so I just stay away. This is the first time I got comments on my art by someone outside my tiny friend circle.

    Outside that, my main purpose will probably be my own pleasure and pleasure of fellow MGTOWs, or anyone who is sufficiently compatible with how I view the world, not necessarily MGTOW. I dont see myself capable enough to spread anything, because exactly what you mentioned : blue pill conditioning. That conditioning is very very counter intuitive to me, which is also the reason why coming up with stories and dialogues is an extremely difficult task for me. Of course, it can be eventually fixed by persistence and practice and getting quality feedback, but I'd rather spend my time working on actual art. I eventually want to be able to make animations for any games I write, which is the primary purpose why I started learning art. And being someone who prefers mostly action oriented games, story again takes back seat there. The visual "punch" of the art becomes more important.
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    I can't speak for anyone else but I liked it.

    Story:

    Hot chick enters bar;
    Hot chick puts out signals;
    Attracts Chad;
    Also attracts Chad wannabe;
    Chad and wannabe fight over girl;
    Bouncer ejects guys fighting;

    Then it gets unbelievable when the bouncer comes back to look for the source of the problem and ejects the hot chick into the dumpster where she belongs.

    Personally I like it. As for your question about speech bubbles yes I do think it lacks something there, but far better no speech bubbles than the wrong ones. Let peoples' imagination fill in the blanks and I'm sure you'll see some weird interpretations which can only add to your and our (mis)understanding of things.
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    Quote Originally Posted by mgtower View Post
    Honestly? I should end with her eagerly sucking Hulk Hooligan's dick behind a dumpster.
    I should be asking $$$ to make cheap X-rated versions !!!

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    I can't speak for anyone else but I liked it.

    Story:

    Hot chick enters bar;
    Hot chick puts out signals;
    Attracts Chad;
    Also attracts Chad wannabe;
    Chad and wannabe fight over girl;
    Bouncer ejects guys fighting;

    Then it gets unbelievable when the bouncer comes back to look for the source of the problem and ejects the hot chick into the dumpster where she belongs.

    Personally I like it. As for your question about speech bubbles yes I do think it lacks something there, but far better no speech bubbles than the wrong ones. Let peoples' imagination fill in the blanks and I'm sure you'll see some weird interpretations which can only add to your and our (mis)understanding of things.
    Well, I am kindda disappointed with my 'story' cuz I almost literally translated Mr Wombat's idea into pictures and nothing much else..

    About imagination and filling the blanks, I like that. I dont believe a good art should have a static interpretation. Leaving something to user is way more interesting ! The story you mentioned, I never meant to depict that the bouncer ejected the two guys, I originally planned two guys looking puzzled when he carried the chick out. But I couldnt figure out nice camera angle. I wanted more dramatization of that part so I had to leave those two guys out.
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    I never meant to depict that the bouncer ejected the two guys, I originally planned two guys looking puzzled when he carried the chick out.
    I think you need more context why the guys started fighting, probably it would be enough to picture the girl with a sleazy look, that way we know that she did something.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Manfred View Post
    I think you need more context why the guys started fighting, probably it would be enough to picture the girl with a sleazy look, that way we know that she did something.
    The greatest defence of women is to pretend they do nothing.
    Agreed. The problem was, the context was missing from my brain itself. I mean I dont know why two random dudes will ever start to fight over a girl, unless she is a girlfriend of one of those or maybe something like that. And because of that, the context seems missing from my art as well. It really appears that they started fighting for no reason.

    It may seem like I simply failed to do enough research on the subject, which is true. But, because of my choice in people I interact with, the movies I watch, etc, it would've required significant time on this. So I decided to skip it for the time being and instead make the parts where bouncer carries the woman and throws her out, the more dramatic and focal points of the "story".

    Initially I did wanted to have some sensible story, I made more detailed indoor environment, with stuff in the background. Within few doodles of storyboarding, I realized I will be biting much more than I can chew on my first run, so I scaled it down.
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    I mean I dont know why two random dudes will ever start to fight over a girl, unless she is a girlfriend of one of those or maybe something like that. And because of that, the context seems missing from my art as well. It really appears that they started fighting for no reason.
    Man, I've seen guys fighting over a girl for no other reason than they both wanted to **** her, and neither had a previous claim. Don't try to analyse it because usually alcohol is involved.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Jackoff View Post
    Man, I've seen guys fighting over a girl for no other reason than they both wanted to **** her, and neither had a previous claim. Don't try to analyse it because usually alcohol is involved.
    For most of evolutionary history humans lived in a world with a low population in groups with probably only a few dozen members.

    Only half of your tribe was female and most of them were either your blood relatives, too young, too old, too sick or taken by the more Alpha members of your tribe.

    This didn't leave you with many females to breed with and it was like this since the dawn of time, only 1 man reproduced for every 4 women.

    As a result the male brain has been hard wired to believe that women are a precious resource to be protected and horded at all costs. This of course makes little sense in the modern world. Add alcohol to this and you have the primary reason behind most of the fights you see between young men outside bars.
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    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    your blood relatives, too young, too old, too sick or taken by the more Alpha members of your tribe.
    Q. Why you single ?
    A. Not into cousins, not into children, not into grannies, not into sicklies and DEFINITELY not into getting my ass kicked !
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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by rkspsm View Post
    Finished a (very) short comics on that idea. There are no dialogues/speech bubbles though, I tried to express the situation just from the pictures. I dont know how ppl approach each other in bars... So instead of writing a bunch of dorky/cringy dialogues for that situation, I wanted to share the images first. Tell me if you guys think it feels a bit empty without them.

    Imgur Link.
    The pictures are well made especially for someone whos not a pro.

    Regarding the content I would cut any hint of violence toward women for two reasons being the first one that it would alienate potential supporter and potential sharing of it within mainstream channels.

    The second one is clearly that for no reason feminists should be able to shame and use emotions to avoid addressing the main point which is the girl being the reason forr the mess in the bar.

    Personally I believe that it needs more of a build-up when it comes of the guys fighting, the girls getting drinks for both and then using each other to get rid of them could be an option.

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    Re: MGTOW comics ideas

    Quote Originally Posted by Jackal View Post
    Regarding the content I would cut any hint of violence toward women for two reasons being the first one that it would alienate potential supporter and potential sharing of it within mainstream channels.
    I'd second that statement, This meme I created got reported and banned as "hate speech" by Facebook a while back despite the fact it's nothing of the sort. The bar for "hate speech is VERY low these days.

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