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    Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    What is toxic masculinity and how can it be addressed?
    Yahoo! News ^ | 11/25/21 | Sabrina Barr and Saman Javed
    Men need to “shut up and listen” to women if they want to address toxic masculinity, actor Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    In a new interview with Sky News following the release of Power Of The Dog, in which Cumberbatch plays a wealthy ranch owner in 1920s Montana, US, he said there is currently not enough recognition of the advantages men have over women in society today. “There is not enough recognition of abuse, there’s not enough recognition of disadvantages,” he said . . . "

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    If you’re not a tranny or Soy Boy, you have toxic masculinity. Like these guys:



    Not sure I want to be lectured about what a 'real man' is from this freak:


    No such thing................

    What about “TOXIC FEMININITY”?..................... Anyone have a recent photo of Hillary? Please don't show it to me!
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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    I would argue that for the genders to reach some sort of understanding it needs to start with a simple recognition of each other's humanity. We are technically 2 sides of the same coin after all. There needs to be an acceptance of the scientifically proven differences between the genders. Then, both sides should consider "listening" to each other. Women have gripes with men? Fine. Well guess what sister, a whole lot of men have legitimate gripes with women and their behavior too. You're not perfect just by grace of your gender.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    We must understand that Cumberbatch is simply posturing and virtue signaling to the crowd that he believes will best further his career. These celebrities who live like the 1%ers sometimes come down from their pedestals to lecture us plebes on what's up in society. My life is now enriched by his wisdom and I can sleep at night again.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Just about every one of those Avengers/MCU actors is a leftist freak/feminist "cuck."....the guy that played Cap, the Hulk actor, Dr. Strange actor.... I'm sure I'm forgetting someone...

    [Yeah I used the term after deriding its use wrt to pron..... I think "cuck" is appropriate when you debase yourself in "public," which these Hollywood actors seem to relish doing.]

    And, yes, like Chris007 points out, this is in no small part likely posturing for the next gig....

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Actually, he gives us an out.

    Look at what he says: "Men need to “shut up and listen” to women if they want to address toxic masculinity, actor Benedict Cumberbatch has said."

    So.... what if we don't want to address it?






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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    [sorry to keep posting on this but....]

    Read the last two paragraphs (if you're bored):

    "Ross-Williams also believes that men have a duty to recognise their privilege in modern society, and that doing so will have a knock-on effect on the current state of toxic masculinity.“In order to dismantle toxic masculinity, people would have to be willing to challenge their own privileges, which is not something a lot of people want to do because it gives them an advantage in the world,” Ross-Williams states.
    *****
    The article ends at that point. There's no examples given of this ostensible "privilege."
    This article is just click bait tripe designed to fill up a web page; and maybe, secondarily, to engage in some social engineering.




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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Parasite and host is not both sizes of the same coin.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    I would argue that for the genders to reach some sort of understanding it needs to start with a simple recognition of each other's humanity. We are technically 2 sides of the same coin after all. There needs to be an acceptance of the scientifically proven differences between the genders. Then, both sides should consider "listening" to each other. Women have gripes with men? Fine. Well guess what sister, a whole lot of men have legitimate gripes with women and their behavior too. You're not perfect just by grace of your gender.
    I'm going to ask this as honestly as possible, are you a woman?

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Hedon View Post
    I'm going to ask this as honestly as possible, are you a woman?
    Hell no. My point is simple. If we're supposed to listen to women about "toxic" masculinity and all our shortcomings as men, then they need to be willing to do the same. They're not perfect and toxic feminity should be fare game. So I don't want to hear it until they're willing to hear the gripes of men too- many of which are legitimate points. Another good step would be for them to recognize us as at least humans worthy of decency and respect. Currently, it seems to me that far more men are willing to respect women on that basic level than the other way around.

    I especially don't want to be lectured by priveleged members of the elite class like Cumberbatch.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtow2021 View Post
    Parasite and host is not both sizes of the same coin.
    So they're not both required for the continuation of the species? On the most basic level, most species come in two varieties, the male and the female.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Fuck 'em. They're the ones projecting their own toxicity onto men.

    Empathy? Women don't have it. That's why they project "men need more empathy" onto men, because they have zero.

    Have you ever truly seen a woman have empathy ever? Where it opposed her own self interests?

    "Manspreading"? You've seen women in public, on a bus or train or public seating, with 50 lbs. of purses and bags, all to stop a sub-8 man from sitting next to them.

    Women take up tons of space? Solution? Project it onto men.

    They haven't found a way to project "gold digging" on to men successfully, yet they'll endlessly false-flag posts about how they pay for all these bum Chads and give them tons of money.

    I must not be a Chad, but I've never seen nor heard of a woman spending all her money on a man. Doesn't happen.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Women can't tell me shit about being a man. They don't know what they're talking about. I support and defend the so-called toxic masculinity. All of it. In fact, the USA needs a lot more of it, to fix our problems. And then to keep things running well. Feminism has been the root of so much weakness and deterioration, it ain't even funny.

    I used to talk a fair shake many years ago, but that's when I naively believed that they had a mental capacity similar to men. Women have proven to me that they cannot learn shit. They cannot own up. They cannot buck up. They cannot step up. They cannot woman up. They are forever a recipient class of human being.

    Women have unattractive minds. They cannot impress me intellectually. There's little they say to me that isn't a subterfuge, or an attempt to make me adapt to them.

    Women are just children with pubic hair. To recognize this and then express sexual interest in them strikes me as pedophilic. Yuk.

    Women harass men to the point of alienation then condemn the men for being alienated. Women are insane. It's best to avoid them.
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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    Women are insane. It's best to avoid them.
    That's the simplest, most MGTOW statement of all. Amen

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Great. Another cuck of an actor.

    Women need to get lost and leave men alone.

    Thank god I've never paid money to watch any of his movies.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    If listening to women actually worked the manosphere wouldn't exist.
    Men are becoming MGTOW by the millions, most without ever having heard the term. They are simply doing what all living organisms finding themselves in a toxic environment do. They adapt to it or remove themselves from it. Females are not liking either the adaptations or the removal.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by stanmsl View Post
    If listening to women actually worked the manosphere wouldn't exist.
    If women actually listened to men, the manosphere wouldn't exist.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Toolband89 View Post
    So they're not both required for the continuation of the species? On the most basic level, most species come in two varieties, the male and the female.
    "Both" ? More like men contribute 99% of the continuation and women just leech off large part of that contribution.
    Men have no choice but to use women's vagina and uterus.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Cumberbatch is a beta from way back. His "sexiness" to women owes everything to his fame, wealth and status. Take those three things away and the majority of women wouldn't give him a second look.

    He obviously understands that better than anybody.

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by Chris007 View Post
    We must understand that Cumberbatch is simply posturing and virtue signaling to the crowd that he believes will best further his career. These celebrities who live like the 1%ers sometimes come down from their pedestals to lecture us plebes on what's up in society. My life is now enriched by his wisdom and I can sleep at night again.
    And he's now in the promotion phase for the latest movie. "Power of the Dog" is described as a "Jane Campion film". More politically correct swill from Hollywood. On the surface, this thing looks like a male oriented movie, with Western rancher characters. So they want to attract the all-important college going female demographic.

    The Power of the Dog is the first film from Campion since 2009’s Bright Star and is one of the frontrunners for next year’s best picture Oscar. It stars Benedict Cumberbatch as a sexually repressed rancher who develops a strange fascination with an effete young man."

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    Re: Men need to “shut up and listen” to women . . . Benedict Cumberbatch has said.

    Quote Originally Posted by BeenThereDoneThat View Post

    The Power of the Dog is the first film from Campion since 2009’s Bright Star and is one of the frontrunners for next year’s best picture Oscar. It stars Benedict Cumberbatch as a sexually repressed rancher who develops a strange fascination with an effete young man."
    I know I'm all insecure and toxic and all, but I won't be seeing this because, as Capt. Marvel said, "this movie isn't for you."


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