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    Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    The modern woman can be described as "gender neutral" because even though she is technically a female, she clearly doesn't embrace her gender. Instead, she is inspired by outside forces to mimic masculinity in hopes of one days rivaling or surpassing men. In such a way, she doesn't 'transcend' her female nature but rather throws it away.

    When the mass media feverishly reports the dropping marriage rate, they will plumb each and every phony and partial reason ranging from supposed economic issues (which for some reason, never stopped people from marrying in the past) or the fact that people are "waiting" longer (is it too late to consider tying the knot for an 80-year old woman with six cats?), none will report the fact that men cannot develop deep attraction to this generation of women whose masculine tendencies aped from television portrayals of heroines, wrongheaded instruction from their mangina fathers, and from the workplace fall outside the natural range of attraction to men. Such women at best can be treated as holes or slots and accessed on a temporary basis as many of us have been involved in the hookup culture or dating, but make awful, adversarial long-term partners and are left on the shelves "unsold".

    Asian women constitute one partial exception (and I realize not all, not by a longshot) who at least embrace their femininity. In contrast, the American white woman has gone from being desired worldwide to a laughingstock that hardly any population of men WW are attracted to. Though feminism and feminine sound awfully similar, they are worlds apart. Asian women become desirable wherever they go, owing to this difference. American woman draw guffaws from men everywhere also for this difference.

    The "gender neutral" woman walks with her chin up. She has male body posture. She seeks ways to blunt her femininity by wearing short hair. She reduces effort into her appearance - made famous by the sloppy look of most American women. She is fat...and PROUD of it!

    There are a few women who still have the "magic" left but they are a dwindling number. A larger number retain the outward feminine appearance but internally retain an adversarial attitude towards men. And this is what causes even many PUAs to give up on their craft because even physical attraction melts in the face of an ornery female with the attributes of the most obnoxious men; where corralling her requires answering sh*t-test after sh*t-test which melts any true or deep attraction to her - at best she can be f*cked and forgotten. Society and women vastly underestimate just how attracted we are to soft, pleasant female personalities; how much of our true interest in them owes to this factor, which is so sadly underplayed in our culture today. Conversely, how disinterested we are when women do the opposite.

    Women have little room to complain. Would women be attracted to a "gender-neutral" man- a man who demonstrated female tendencies? Would they be attracted to a man who was shy, who was reluctant to assert himself, who was bashful, who had a limp-wrist, who cried when someone yelled loudly, who needed constant emotional reassurance? No. So why should men be attracted to women with masculine qualities?

    Feminism bleats that women can "be anything". And they can. But to the extent that "anything" deviates from the kind, constructive, pleasant personality that men deeply want in a woman, their choices will have consequences. This consequence being that they are totally shunned for a long term relationship by 3.5 billion males on planet Earth.

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    I should add that the primary change in relationships is the reduction of LTRs. If you look at the rates of sex, they remain similar to past levels. If you look at the indicators of commitment (marriage), that's declined. As it is, p*ssies haven't changed. They still provide whatever value they did in the past. It's the mind that's attached to the p*ssy that feminism has changed, or rather untethered from traditionalist guidance. So when the standard man interviewed in a newspaper article says he can't marry his GF because "economic times are tough" or "we haven't saved enough money" he is merely giving a surface level reason. In truth, he has apprehended that his GF provides sexual value but would be a poor LTR. In fact, the only way to secure her sexual value is to not get married. We have had economic difficulty before- the last 15 years are nowhere near the worst we've seen. Given what I just mentioned though, I believe we are also getting to the point where a woman's personality may even dampen the interest in p*ssy and what we've seen in Japan with herbivores, we may see in the West to some degree.

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    Quote Originally Posted by jagrmeister View Post
    Asian women constitute one partial exception (and I realize not all, not by a longshot) who at least embrace their femininity. In contrast, the American white woman has gone from being desired worldwide to a laughingstock that hardly any population of men WW are attracted to. Though feminism and feminine sound awfully similar, they are worlds apart. Asian women become desirable wherever they go, owing to this difference. American woman draw guffaws from men everywhere also for this difference.
    Jagr, you have not mentioned the thing possibly even more important than this: obesity. It's the fat that's causing it. It's not just that asian women are feminine, it's that they - generally speaking - are petite and not godawful fat. It's not just "people of walmart" - the average aussie girl is chunky.

    It's probably the food that's causing it. One source I read put it down to the glutens in strains of wheat bred in the 60's, the wheat that makes spongy, slimy wonderbread possible. But whatever has caused the entire late 20th century cohort to become obese, it has disrupted the mating behaviour of humans. Birth rates are below replacement in most developed countries - we are facing a partial species-wide die-off.

    That species-wide phenomenon, on an individual and personal level we experience it as "women aren't enough of a turn-on to make them worth the trouble". But we should not be looking at individual men making selfish choices - that's the wrong end of the telescope. We are looking at an epidemiological disruption that is affecting large numbers of our entire species.

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    it's hard to be attracted to any women anymore. they're fucking horrific in one way or another.

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    gender-neutral woman??? can you say "paradox"????
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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

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    I believe we are also getting to the point where a woman's personality may even dampen the interest in p*ssy and what we've seen in Japan with herbivores, we may see in the West to some degree.

    Yes. We are getting to the point where the personalities of women have dampened my interest in pussy.

    I dont know whats going on in Tokyo, but in New York City, all women, no matter where they are from or what they look like, have personalities that can not only be described as uppity, domineering, irrational, unhinged, self-entitled, maladjusted, disobedient and absolutely irreverent, they can easily be identified as malignanlty narcissistic sociopaths prone to violence and abuse.

    If thats not enough to kill a boner, what is?

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    This reminds me of a LTR I once had where the girl began to withhold sex because I wouldn't commit to marriage. Even though I was young (24) I knew that even if we got married she would eventually withhold sex again. So except for the kids, mortgage, her family, we both getting older, I was already experiencing the marriage. So I left and experienced that without having it cost me anything financially and emotionally.

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    Yes. We are getting to the point where the personalities of women have dampened my interest in pussy.

    I dont know whats going on in Tokyo, but in New York City, all women, no matter where they are from or what they look like, have personalities that can not only be described as uppity, domineering, irrational, unhinged, self-entitled, maladjusted, disobedient and absolutely irreverent, they can easily be identified as malignanlty narcissistic sociopaths prone to violence and abuse.

    If thats not enough to kill a boner, what is?
    Don't sugar coat it. We can take it straight.

    Really, this nails it on the head. I think the key phrase is, "malignantly narcissistic sociopaths prone to violence and abuse." If you still have your boner, then maybe you should seek psychiatric assistance.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Shaw View Post
    This reminds me of a LTR I once had where the girl began to withhold sex because I wouldn't commit to marriage. Even though I was young (24) I knew that even if we got married she would eventually withhold sex again. So except for the kids, mortgage, her family, we both getting older, I was already experiencing the marriage. So I left and experienced that without having it cost me anything financially and emotionally.
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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    Gender neutral women simply think they are worth competitors to men...the truth is they are not even worthy competitors with each other as women. What makes them think they can step into the realm of men and expect to compete for a man's attention by being vile and combative?

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    Its not that they became masculine per se . It is just that both men and women measure human worthiness by money . And since men and women make practically the same ...of course you worth shit . Because there are no physical threat anymore .

    Humans like other mammals only behave when there is direct physical threat ... and women dont act masculine in the presence of billionaire ( unless its scripted for TV ) , they dont act masculine in the presence of a known gang banger .

    ( Its like in jail ,people there behave very nice cause they still expect to be let go and there are none of their gang around, and everybody is more or less criminal . Im telling you people in jail are way nicer than in regular life. )

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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    Jagr, you have not mentioned the thing possibly even more important than this: obesity. It's the fat that's causing it. It's not just that asian women are feminine, it's that they - generally speaking - are petite and not godawful fat. It's not just "people of walmart" - the average aussie girl is chunky.

    It's probably the food that's causing it. One source I read put it down to the glutens in strains of wheat bred in the 60's, the wheat that makes spongy, slimy wonderbread possible. But whatever has caused the entire late 20th century cohort to become obese, it has disrupted the mating behaviour of humans. Birth rates are below replacement in most developed countries - we are facing a partial species-wide die-off.

    That species-wide phenomenon, on an individual and personal level we experience it as "women aren't enough of a turn-on to make them worth the trouble". But we should not be looking at individual men making selfish choices - that's the wrong end of the telescope. We are looking at an epidemiological disruption that is affecting large numbers of our entire species.
    People not only eat/drink too much of zero quality food but they eat/drink it under stress which makes it a poison 10 times over . You ask me why ?

    People know too much . They know they are shit but want to be the Kardashians . And of course work too much for way too little .

    Women never had access to enough food if not provided by men , its a modern phenomenon . And fat women are getting laid anyways which is another modern phenomenon .

    And garbage poor people all bitch about rich people bossing them around but would do the same if given the opportunity . They throw eachother under the bus and then complain that hey have no power while in reality it would only take a complete walk out for two days and the fat cat would go broke . But poors will never do that . Thats why women are fat basically .

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post

    Understand ?
    Food is the most important thing to maintaining a healthy mind.

    I've read up extensively on agriculture and aqua culture and other related subjects.

    I've increased my intake on quality foods by taking measure of growing and process it myself.

    I just finished a micro batch of homemade spaghetti sauce, not even the president knows the taste of flavor packed foods from veggies loaded with nutrition, not the store bought ADM spider/plant GMO modified to grow in arsenic contaminated soil or other dastardly demon plants genetically modified to be Round-Up (herbicide) tolerant/resistant.

    I call it Frankenfood! The evidence is in the minds, bodies, and overall makeup of those foolish enough to consume it.

    High fructose corn syrup with mono and diglycerides (rancid oil) is producing the landwhale population explosion. Heart disease will run a-muck in nations that consume it.

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMessenger View Post
    Yes. We are getting to the point where the personalities of women have dampened my interest in pussy.

    I dont know whats going on in Tokyo, but in New York City, all women, no matter where they are from or what they look like, have personalities that can not only be described as uppity, domineering, irrational, unhinged, self-entitled, maladjusted, disobedient and absolutely irreverent, they can easily be identified as malignanlty narcissistic sociopaths prone to violence and abuse.

    If thats not enough to kill a boner, what is?
    Tape their mouths and only go for the looks (if they have any) *grin*
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    Quote Originally Posted by Mr Wombat View Post
    That species-wide phenomenon, on an individual and personal level we experience it as "women aren't enough of a turn-on to make them worth the trouble". But we should not be looking at individual men making selfish choices - that's the wrong end of the telescope. We are looking at an epidemiological disruption that is affecting large numbers of our entire species.
    I like the wide lens you are using here, but I find it maybe too simple that you are chalking it up solely to women being fat. I do agree that we are looking at a procreation disruption to our species, but I might argue that it has more to do with ideology (Feminism/Marxism) than anything else. I think the rise of ideologies like this may also be a natural reaction to overpopulation in the collective human psyche. See the mouse "utopia" experiment: https://www.iflscience.com/plants-an...an-apocalypse/

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    One big consequence of feminism is women making themselves look ugly. Supposedly, any beauty standards at all is an evil plot of the patriarchy, and a woman liking any feminine things is her caving in to internalized misogyny. It's been absurd. You've probably seen those before feminism and after feminism articles. Some very beautiful women ruined themselves. They look so gross now. And their looks is only a tiny part of the problem. They're even uglier inside. Feminism has encouraged women to be hostile and hateful monsters toward men.

    It's gotten so if you're a heterosexual, non-trans man, especially if you're white, you are guaranteed to get hate from the feminist left. And I'm a non-trans white man. That's the right terminology. This invented word "cis" is bullshit, and they've started using it as a slur. If you're happy being the gender that you already are, somehow that's something to be ashamed of. That's bullshit.

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    Re: Men aren't attracted to Gender-Neutral Women

    Quote Originally Posted by TheMessenger View Post
    Yes. We are getting to the point where the personalities of women have dampened my interest in pussy.

    I dont know whats going on in Tokyo, but in New York City, all women, no matter where they are from or what they look like, have personalities that can not only be described as uppity, domineering, irrational, unhinged, self-entitled, maladjusted, disobedient and absolutely irreverent, they can easily be identified as malignanlty narcissistic sociopaths prone to violence and abuse.

    If thats not enough to kill a boner, what is?
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    I agree that men are not attracted to gender neutral females. And why should we ? What man in his right mind would be attracted to a fat lump of flesh with a vagina ?

    I don't worry about it. Over time, women will get the message loud and clear. Femininity will eventually make a re-bound.
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    My advice to young men who are still in the dating scene is to have as little to do with gender neutral women as possible. Completely ignore them. Don't date them. Don't offer to buy them drinks. Don't start any conversations with them. Don't smile at them. And , wherever possible, don't even look in their direction.

    Listen guys. If we can say any one basic thing about women is that they absolutely love, indeed need, attention. Deny them that, and you will be in control of the situation.
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    "Supposed economic issues"

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    "Supposed economic issues"

    *double checks graph*

    Could you please do 5 seconds research before opening your mouth thankyou? The ENTIRE REASON we are seeing the collapse of marrage is that wages are priced the same way EVERYTHING ELSE IS and the more hours are sold the less everyone gets paid. So women are looking for men who earn the same amount their granpa did and GUESS WHAT SWEETY he will never earn that much becouse YOUR COMPETING WITH HIM FOR WAGES!

    They literally did this to themselves, and we need to start saying that VERY CLEARLY!


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