Thread: married men, married women with no desire for sex

This article proves what we already know, that getting married is no guarantee to access to sex. As soon as you have your kids, it's bye-bye to sex. It's also bye-bye to being her first priority. If you ever need compassion, forget it. She'll use a feminist talking point, claiming you want her to "mother you." So if you get hurt at work and are lying home in bed, the indoctrinated feminist won't think it's her duty to show you compassion and empathy and to help to nurse you back to health.

I've heard feminazis bitch, "If he gets sick, everything stops happening." I wonder what exactly she was expecting. He's in bed with COVID with a dangerous temperature, does she still expect him to mow the yard, fix the cabinets, and make his own meals?

How many reasons do we need to avoid marriage? It gives a woman the keys to destroy your life, robbing you of more than half of your property and locking you into alimony and maybe child support payments. Marriage is no longer a guarantee to access to sex. It's not even a guarantee that your wife will show you appropriate compassion when you're in serious pain.

If you haven't already, DUMP the idea of marriage. If you're single and get sick, you won't have someone there to comfort you and care for you, but at least you won't have someone adding even more stress than the sickness adds. At least you won't have someone resenting you for getting sick. Ever had that happen: A woman mad at you for getting sick? I've had that happen, and it wasn't an illness that I brought on myself. It wasn't a hangover. Catch a bad flu, stay in bed all miserable, and she bitches at you for getting sick. It's obscene that wives and girlfriends would even think that's appropriate behavior when their man is in pain. Showing compassion for a man isn't "mothering him." It's being a good wife.


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There's untold miseries that didn't happen in my life thanks to that fork in the road called independence, solidarity, and backbone!

Times have changed and so have the men of MGTOW, we rose to the occasion and never sat back down, never gave up, and never surrendered, I guess by all accounts that makes us the victors of this cultural war of gender, ethnics, false teachings, and false ideologies.

It's truly amazing what men can fix and the outlandish efforts and tactics we'll go through to fix it!

MGTOW: The only road among many that doesn't lead to despair, enslavement, and ruination. MGTOW is the invisible fist out of nowhere they never saw coming, we are the end of tyranny and the only hope for personal, monetary, and spiritual prosperity.

We didn't make the fire escape, we merely found it and used it.

Originally Posted by mgtower

There's untold miseries that didn't happen in my life thanks to that fork in the road called independence, solidarity, and backbone!

Times have changed and so have the men of MGTOW, we rose to the occasion and never sat back down, never gave up, and never surrendered, I guess by all accounts that makes us the victors of this cultural war of gender, ethnics, false teachings, and false ideologies.

It's truly amazing what men can fix and the outlandish efforts and tactics we'll go through to fix it!

MGTOW: The only road among many that doesn't lead to despair, enslavement, and ruination. MGTOW is the invisible fist out of nowhere they never saw coming, we are the end of tyranny and the only hope for personal, monetary, and spiritual prosperity.

We didn't make the fire escape, we merely found it and used it.

Amen my brother.
Very well said.

Isn't it common knowledge than many if not most married people stop having sex after 5 or 10 years? I've heard enough people say it to know it's very common...and that's the ones willing to admit it. Maybe some try to keep some form of boring sex going...many start cheating, bring in toys, wanting open marriage, etc. When people start wanting all that you know they're probably tired of each other. I was never married but I know after about 3-4 years into two relationships the sex was take it or leave it. I can't imagine what it would be after 10 or 20 or 30 years

4 or 5 years seems about right though I'm sure it's a little different for everyone. The real schmucks like me stop getting access to sex before you even have kids, yet still end up with kids knowing what's to come, or not come.

And I agree, don't get sick. Your significant other won't care. She might say she feels bad for you but she is more sad you aren't doing your fair share of the chores etc. They seem to think you'd rather be sick than helping out. What have you done for me lately is all women care about. One thing bothers them and forget everything nice you've ever done. Blue pilled marriage is basically prison.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

I've heard feminazis bitch, "If he gets sick, everything stops happening."

A good thread starter and post, thanks.

Ever hear one wife talking to another in the hive saying, "He had the man flue"? They complain when they have the flue the house has to keep going and they can't stop to get better. When the husband is sick, he stops and stays home and sulks. Like her flue is not as bad and she must keep going.

In reality, most men cannot go to work sick, work doesn't want him spreading it to the other co-workers. There is a higher chance of the man doing a physically demanding job, being sick he will have less strength, and likely a lower concentration level when sick. This makes it a higher likelihood of injury when sick. Work just plain does not want him in that condition.

When she's sick she still has to keep the house going.... If this is true, why do lots of men call in sick to work say the wife is sick and he has to look after the kids? Maybe if he doesn't get paid sick leave, she will insist he still goes to work to make money and she will have to "Tough it out"... Often her hive will help her out around the house.

Male injuries at work or play, directly impact her hypergamy. This is all part of her human nature. If he is permanently disabled or has a permanent injury, her attraction towards him will be lower. It's not her job to nurse him, she wants to nurse her children not her spouse. Her female nature wants the best male (seed) she feels she can get. If the male was dumb enough to get injured maybe she could do better and should look for a replacement? This comes into play with looks also, health is also displayed in the way the face/skin looks.

Most boys were cared for when they were sick by a female figure, a mother, aunt, or grandmother when they were growing up. That was because you and her were in the parent/child role. A GF or wife does not to be in that role with a mate/spouse, she was to be cared for (resources etc.) by the man. If she's a nurse and that's her job fine but not to her spouse (for long).

Originally Posted by RustyNuts

A good thread starter and post, thanks.

Ever hear one wife talking to another in the hive saying, "He had the man flue"? They complain when they have the flue the house has to keep going and they can't stop to get better. When the husband is sick, he stops and stays home and sulks. Like her flue is not as bad and she must keep going.

In reality, most men cannot go to work sick, work doesn't want him spreading it to the other co-workers. There is a higher chance of the man doing a physically demanding job, being sick he will have less strength, and likely a lower concentration level when sick. This makes it a higher likelihood of injury when sick. Work just plain does not want him in that condition.

When she's sick she still has to keep the house going.... If this is true, why do lots of men call in sick to work say the wife is sick and he has to look after the kids? Maybe if he doesn't get paid sick leave, she will insist he still goes to work to make money and she will have to "Tough it out"... Often her hive will help her out around the house.

Male injuries at work or play, directly impact her hypergamy. This is all part of her human nature. If he is permanently disabled or has a permanent injury, her attraction towards him will be lower. It's not her job to nurse him, she wants to nurse her children not her spouse. Her female nature wants the best male (seed) she feels she can get. If the male was dumb enough to get injured maybe she could do better and should look for a replacement? This comes into play with looks also, health is also displayed in the way the face/skin looks.

Most boys were cared for when they were sick by a female figure, a mother, aunt, or grandmother when they were growing up. That was because you and her were in the parent/child role. A GF or wife does not to be in that role with a mate/spouse, she was to be cared for (resources etc.) by the man. If she's a nurse and that's her job fine but not to her spouse (for long).

It's just another case of feminism telling women they owe nothing to their husbands. In reality, if the two have taken wedding vows, those are sacred promises, and they both therefore DO owe things to one another. This is all part of the "love, honor, and cherish" part. He owes her his support and compassion when she's sick, and she owes the exact same thing to him if he gets sick! If you love someone, that shouldn't bother you! However, as many MGTOW posters have pointed out, women are incapable of loving men. In previous centuries if a woman was such a shallow, callous shrew that she couldn't even manage to be compassionate toward her husband when he was ill, she would have been put in stocks and whipped in public. And back then, every wife did nurse her husband back to health when he was sick.

However, to be clear, I'm not in favor of having wives whipped. If the only way to get women to be compassionate toward their ill husbands is to whip them, we might as well just never get married. So we can have a wife forced to be compassionate via threat of a beating or we can have a wife who hates on her husband for getting sick. Either choice is unacceptable. The only choice is to be MGTOW. Don't ever get married. All you can get is a disgusting woman devoid of compassion for you, and who expects you to serve her all the time with your talents and your money, even when you're so sick that you're miserable, feverish, and throwing up. Anyone who can't manage a smidgen of compassion for their suffering spouse is a piece of garbage human being. Yes, women are garbage.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Isn't it common knowledge than many if not most married people stop having sex after 5 or 10 years? I've heard enough people say it to know it's very common...and that's the ones willing to admit it. Maybe some try to keep some form of boring sex going...many start cheating, bring in toys, wanting open marriage, etc. When people start wanting all that you know they're probably tired of each other. I was never married but I know after about 3-4 years into two relationships the sex was take it or leave it. I can't imagine what it would be after 10 or 20 or 30 years

After about 4-5 yrs my married sex pretty much came to an end; "Too tired", "Not feeling well"; "Not in the mood". After hearing "no" so many damn times, I just more or less gave up trying. Easier to rub one out in the shower.

Originally Posted by ThatOldGuy

After about 4-5 yrs my married sex pretty much came to an end; "Too tired", "Not feeling well"; "Not in the mood". After hearing "no" so many damn times, I just more or less gave up trying. Easier to rub one out in the shower.

Yeah, we've heard of married guys wanting sex and the wife not giving it, but I'm more surprised by how the married guys still want it...especially to the point of becoming little lap dog begging for a treat. WTF. Men act silly when it comes to sex and beer. It's like married men need those pets on the head disguised as "I just want to fuck her". I can barely bring myself to want the same woman twice. A woman I've banged 1500+ times from every angle in 3-4 years....how do I desire her? In my relationships I never even initiated sex...she always had to do it and if she didn't do it to my pleasing I would psychological punish her without ever saying why.

Don't get married and what's that saying I heard in movie once...don't get attached to anyone you can't leave in 30 seconds. If you never marry and a woman stops putting out...move on be alone until you need to scratch the itch again.

Remove all the benefits and guarantees of marriage, replace them with 'maybes' and retroactive mind-changing.
All with the purpose of removing accountability from these wahmen.
And then still expect you to get married.

No wonder the birth rate is dropping. A whole p(l)andemic happened, locked down for a whole year and not even a blip of an increase in the birth rate.

But yes, continue more of the same ideas. It's working wonders right now.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

...don't get attached to anyone you can't leave in 30 seconds.

I heard that quote in the movie “Heat.” How ironic that it was spoken by a character who became a simp as the movie progressed.

But I’ve always loved that quote from the moment I heard it. Emotional attachments of a romantic sort can do nothing but make you vulnerable, weak, and foolish. Women are poisonous to a man’s soul. Behind the ruin and destruction of every great man stands a scorned, entitled bitch.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

I've heard feminazis bitch, "If he gets sick, everything stops happening." I wonder what exactly she was expecting. He's in bed with COVID with a dangerous temperature, does she still expect him to mow the yard, fix the cabinets, and make his own meals?

Man, this triggered a memory.

Lazy McSpoiled took a powder everytime she got a headache or sniffle for the "remains of the day" at least 2-3 times a month and usually on Sunday, leaving two young kids to me.

I get really sick maybe once every five years.

I went to the hospital for pneumonia; wife didn't want to drive me but relented. When I fell on the floor in the waiting room for lack of oxygen and fainted for a second, she told me "Don't be dramatic" as I came too a few seconds later wondering why I was on the floor. By the time I figured it out, orderlies had me on a stretcher going straight to an oxygen machine.

Then I got dengue, which sounds worse than it is, basically burning in the limbs and general malaise and mild fever (for me, at least). Every day for a week she nagged me when I would get out of bed, though the doctor said it would be about 10 days before I felt normal and I recovered several days sooner than that.

It wasn't until long after I realized my coworkers showed me more concern virtually over Teams from a thousand miles away than my own wife did.

I'm not one of those "baby me" people, in fact, the opposite. I hate being around people when sick and hate being waited on, and usually have little to no appetite. Crackers and tea are fine for me, and I keep them in my room when recuperating. In fact, I left the hospital for pneumonia against medical advice and hired a nurse to come twice a day to check my vitals and administer an IV if necessary (this was cheap as it was in a third world country, couldn't dream of affording that in the USA without gold plated insurance or months of paperwork I imagine).

Stunning when I think about it now how self-centered she was. It's not like I had the flu or the cold for a couple of days.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Isn't it common knowledge than many if not most married people stop having sex after 5 or 10 years? I've heard enough people say it to know it's very common...and that's the ones willing to admit it. Maybe some try to keep some form of boring sex going...many start cheating, bring in toys, wanting open marriage, etc. When people start wanting all that you know they're probably tired of each other. I was never married but I know after about 3-4 years into two relationships the sex was take it or leave it. I can't imagine what it would be after 10 or 20 or 30 years

Pretty much this. For me, after the 2nd kid or around 8 years into the marriage. Though she seldom refused me, she pretty much stopped initiating.

One thing about being straight up unapologetic about what you want, one time after the 2nd kid, she started with some foolishness about us needing to go on dinner dates and "not expect sex afterwards".
I told her "I didn't do that for girlfriends before I met you, I'm certainly not doing that with my wife."

Interestingly, she initiated after that for a while several times. It's like my "no" reinvigorated her vagina. Another "Red Pill Confirmed" moment.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

As soon as you have your kids, it's bye-bye to sex.

Yeah, my guess on this is that it's after her target number. It might be one and done, and then none, or it might be two then the sex is few.

Another thing I've noticed is that the Millie chicks get married in their early 30s, have one or two kids right away, and when they decide they're done with kids, within a couple of years despite a dead bedroom, they start cheating.

Big wave of women with young kids cheating on their husbands in their late 30s/early 40s now, with the usual BS excuses about being neglected, working too much, just not haaaapy anymore, etc.

It’s uncanny how this same shit happens / happened to all of us…..

I used to call it “begging for bad sex” 🤣

I can count on one hand how many times she initiated in 21 years of marriage- that’s not an exaggeration. Before I married her, my dick was like hamburger for 2 years from so much sex. Marriage is the biggest scam in the modern era. Using sex as a weapon / bargaining chip like they do should nullify any alimony. So should the cheating (she did both).

MGTOW is the best transition I could have ever chosen.

Once I had a woman's body and soul I kinda got tired of fiddling for whatever reasons. Call it trauma but I make it hard to leave.

Once domesticate life takes hold the romance or whatever you want to call it is dead. Usually both people work, seeing each other after work or in between shifts. If one is a shift worker they may not even see each other for days at a time. Seeing each other on the toilet and at their worst in various ways. It all takes a toll.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

It's just another case of feminism telling women they owe nothing to their husbands. In reality, if the two have taken wedding vows, those are sacred promises, and they both therefore DO owe things to one another. This is all part of the "love, honor, and cherish" part. He owes her his support and compassion when she's sick, and she owes the exact same thing to him if he gets sick!

You are thinking with traditional views.... It's not that way anymore. For her, those vows are only said to make "Her Day" special.... They don't actually mean anything, kind of like the Something old, Something Blue type traditions she has to also do on "Her" wedding day.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

If you love someone, that shouldn't bother you! However, as many MGTOW posters have pointed out, women are incapable of loving men.

Women love men, but not the way men want them to or not the way men love women. Her love is conditional, and in ways a man's love is conditional (or should be if he has boundaries) also just not the same conditions.

Originally Posted by Kryptic

Once domesticate life takes hold the romance or whatever you want to call it is dead. Usually both people work, seeing each other after work or in between shifts. If one is a shift worker they may not even see each other for days at a time. Seeing each other on the toilet and at their worst in various ways. It all takes a toll.

Sounds right to me. Perhaps it all contributes to that 1-3 year honeymoon period...some of which you don't live together. Once you've already had sex and then start living with someone to see how they really live...the sexual attraction can quickly fade. Part of me thinks at least back in the day you had certain expectations like a woman would be "lady like" and cook a good meal, keep the house clean and wouldn't be on social media all day.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Yeah, we've heard of married guys wanting sex and the wife not giving it, but I'm more surprised by how the married guys still want it...especially to the point of becoming little lap dog begging for a treat. WTF. Men act silly when it comes to sex and beer. It's like married men need those pets on the head disguised as "I just want to fuck her". I can barely bring myself to want the same woman twice. A woman I've banged 1500+ times from every angle in 3-4 years....how do I desire her? In my relationships I never even initiated sex...she always had to do it and if she didn't do it to my pleasing I would psychological punish her without ever saying why.

Don't get married and what's that saying I heard in movie once...don't get attached to anyone you can't leave in 30 seconds. If you never marry and a woman stops putting out...move on be alone until you need to scratch the itch again.

I reached a point, after 4 or five years of marriage, where I simply gave up trying. I stopped approaching. She noticed after perhaps a few weeks and asked me why. I said something like,re "You don't want me sexually, so why should I want you."
There were a few times I sat on the side of the bed and JOed. (some kind of demented revenge?) Oh, well, whatever. But I know a couple of closer married friends who complained about the same thing. Someone once said something like; A woman can sometimes be an acceptable substitut e for masturbation." He was probably married!