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    Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Many of you here are divorced. The select few of you haven't been married but can recite the problems and traps of the marriage contract. It's obvious for anyone who is willing to look that marriage is a raw deal for men. No man should get married...ever. But that's just not the case for women. Women want to get married, here are some links that show this to be true:

    https://www.thecut.com/2017/07/why-d...ed-so-bad.html

    https://www.verywellmind.com/signs-y...-marry-4050567

    https://www.huffingtonpost.com/susan...b_2110246.html

    Marriage is something that is deep rooted in a woman's psyche. At least having emotional security and possessing a resource generator is. And that's where modern feminism has destroyed what was left of the family. "Women are strong and independent!" and "Women can do everything that a man can do!" We here them proclaim. Then why don't women do everything that a man can do? Then why don't women actually behave in a manner that is consistent with their "strong and independent" nature? The answer is simple and has already been alluded to. Women simply aren't anything like what the feminists proclaim AND they need men to provide for them. Provide for them materially, emotionally, and provide for them socially through status. I cannot emphasis enough that women need the aforementioned things from men.

    As Red Pill men we see this, we know it intuitively. We go our own way because we can, because we know that it is the only real choice for us. Women will learn too late that it's they who have been lied to and have been lying to others.
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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    It's too bad none of these articles have comments. But if they did, i know exactly what they would say.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    "Women can do everything that a man can do!" We here them proclaim. Then why don't women do everything that a man can do? Then why don't women actually behave in a manner that is consistent with their "strong and independent" nature? The answer is simple and has already been alluded to. Women simply aren't anything like what the feminists proclaim AND they need men to provide for them. Provide for them materially, emotionally, and provide for them socially through status
    One of the most important things I learned about women was from a PUA. I can't remember which one. His advice was this.

    Never listen to a woman's words. Pay attention to her actions.

    When I applied that phrase to my past and present interactions with women, I can't count how many times they said one thing.
    Then promptly behaved the exact opposite of what they said. I could really go in depth on this. Just don't feel like writing a massive post about it.
    I truly do use this phrase when I relate to women to this day.

    The other thing is the whole wedding thing is like crack, heroin, ecstasy and whatever else to women. A triple blast of drugs choice.

    1. The "tingles and feelz" just the thought of it brings on!
    2. It's "Her" day!!! The whole focus is on the bride. Attention, attention, attention overdose. Plus all the planning, dress shopping, and on and on and on.
    3. She gets shinny prizes now!! A rock that's should equal so much of the guys pay, to show her worth to her friends.

    There are dozens more reasons. Just going to keep it brief.

    Men can over ride their feelings and emotions if it makes sense to do so. Like a man not getting married because it makes logical sense.
    Not so much for women.

    It's been my experience in life that women can talk all their shit about strong and independent = Her Words.
    Then many fall head over heels for a man who leads the way, pays little attention to what she says, and is an animal in bed with her = Her Actions.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    We've seen them as girls fantasizing about marriage. We've seen weddings planned to the nth nauseating detail. Women know that their wedding is their shining moment in time to rub things in the faces of their Hive. Women know that marriage is a license to plunder. Women want marriage, because it is a highly profitable venture

    In 2012 the median cost of the typical US wedding $18,086, I'd venture that the median cost is on the order of $30,000 in 2018 Federal Fraud Notes a.k.a the US dollar.

    Who pays? The man, and he pays a price that can include involuntary servitude, prison, or even suicide.

    Screw marriage to Hell and back. I spit on its corpse.
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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Marriage, at least in the feminised west is over for men long long ago.
    I would disagree about money though. Women are extremely privileged in the work place and have tonnes and tonnes of positive discrimination. If a women chooses a career over family life, she will definitely not be needing a man in her life for financial reasons.

    If you haven't already noticed, women are now by far outstripping men in all fields I can think of in terms of educational attainment and income.

    The one thing which both men & women need in the modern world, and might I add crave quite deeply is intimacy and connection. But gynocentric laws have made it very risky to build a relationship with a woman (any relationship even 1 night stand to long term partnership).

    I think, at this junction, this is really where we are.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    One thing I learnt recently is about what they call duper's delight.
    You can tell when a lie is being told from micro expressions that last for a split second-often a slight barely noticeable smirk when they think they have taken you in/ got away with it.


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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post

    The one thing which both men & women need in the modern world, and might I add crave quite deeply is intimacy and connection.
    Intimacy is a female gynocentric construct, once a man scrubs that thought from his mind it doesn't return for another stay, like throwing away the trash, he stops thinking about it.

    On the other hand, with women, intimacy is used like crack cocaine and given out in measured doses depending on the level of sacrifice the man is willing to make! When he finally spits out the poison pill and walks away finally, the woman goes into intimacy shock and fast as lightning she's looking for more and it envelops her entire life and whole being!

    The men of MGTOW have learned a nasty trick that dis-empowers females and their manipulative intimacy, we leave them to be intimate with themselves and the gynocentric systems they created, we no longer negotiate with these intimacy terrorists and leave them to devour each other on things like POF websites where they peddle their once valued intimacy for pennies on the dollar without any takers.

    THINGS ALWAYS MAKE FULL CIRCLE! NOW IT'S OUR TURN TO ENJOY LIFE FOR A WHILE! WE NO LONGER SUFFER!

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    I should have used another word, I don't really mean to say intimacy exactly.
    I think it would be somewhat unnatural/unusual for a man to not crave connection with a women.

    Now, I want to be careful and clearly state, I am not trying to be gynocentric.

    If a man wants nothing to do with women, he has my full support and backing. I myself went through such a phase.

    But it is nice to go out and spend time with a women who is caring, open-minded, insightful and intelligent. If she is also physically attractive and sexually liberated and doesn't manipulate men with her sexuality/intimacy - that is an added bonus and then I think such a women would be nice to hang out with.

    Sure, such women don't exist that much in this world. But I think a few here and there do, I have dated and had relationships with such women and it was nice, but you have to be very discerning.

    I always ask myself, am I spending my time, energy and money (however much of it) on this relationship because it genuinely benefits me and I genuinely enjoy being with this woman? Or am I in unconscious white knight mode paying for the dinners/drinks and dishing out life advise and information for nothing much in return?

    You always have to be on your toes because white knight brainwashing runs really deep in any mans psyche.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Opaque is correct in the observation that the skids are greased for women in today's society BUT the numbers/statistics DON'T lie. In the aggregate economy women produce about 35% of the income, men the remaining 65%; yet when it comes to spending women spend 70% of all the money spent in the economy--so 35% of the money they spend ISN'T money they earned. It either comes from big daddy government in the form of transfer payments OR it comes from men. The only way women can gain these resources from men is through marriage. Remember also women will spend every last dime they are given, and their personal wants have no upper limit so ANYTHING or ANYONE that increases the amount they can spend is to be sought after.

    BTW this is why government tries desperately to support marraige either through tax incentives or penalties for those unmarried. GDP would take a SERIOUS hit if women lost control over the 35% of other people's money they have to spend.

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    OF COURSE women still want marriage. It is a completely one-sided arrangement which benefits women exclusively at the expense of men. Primarily, it is a means of stripping men of the wealth they work hard to produce, and handing it over to the state and women.

    Women had it good before. All they had to do was be good, faithful wives, and they would have a man to support and care for them for the rest of their lives. But being the greedy, shortsighted creatures they are, that was not enough for them.

    Well, now they will get nothing. Not only will men no longer be their providers and protectors, they won't even have a man around to kill spiders or change lightbulbs for them.

    Men will be fine without women. In fact, men are better off without them, especially in this day and age. Women used to at least provide some value by being good mothers and homemakers. No longer. The only thing they are useful now is for relieving sexual urges. Meaning that by the time they reach some point in their 30's, 100% of them are entirely USELESS to a man. They have precisely nothing to offer, zero bargaining power. And since they cost hundreds of thousands of dollars to care for and support over the course of their life, but have nothing to offer in return, today's generation of broken women will die miserable and alone. Men, on the other hand, will be freer and much richer without the dead weight of a female to support.

    It's a win-win for us.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Young women are more self-assured than ever, not necessarily in search of a boyfriend and comfortable focusing on their own goals. They know that sex can be a sport and men can be adjunct, perhaps fungible. Yet what I’ve found is that at a certain point for these women, usually by their mid to late-twenties, being engaged and getting married becomes important.
    The author says 'yet', as though what follows is in contrast to the preceding clause: "The way was hard, yet he battled on".

    Thing is: to women, husbands are fungible, replaceable, adjunct. There's no 'yet' about it.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    I have never seen a groom magazine.

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    Women only want to get married once they are 35 year old hags with only their used up, worn out tuna hole to offer a man.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Women not so long ago couldnt own/inherit property without being married . It was the only way .

    And couldnt trade / do business without being married . Nobody would have deals with them without the husband being as an insurance if something goes wrong .

    Thats why after marriage her status skyrockets .

    Every single business in this world that women run was set up or running under umbrella of a man . Every .
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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    For me, it's more like marriage as we know it is what has become "functionally obsolete"......
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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    For me, it's more like marriage as we know it is what has become functionally obsolete......
    For you - yes , but for the government its still a very good thing , i mean for the business
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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Imagine how many businesses wold go bankrupt if more men said no to women. I mean masturbation alone has saved me thousands of pounds!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Imagine how many businesses wold go bankrupt if more men said no to women. I mean masturbation alone has saved me thousands of pounds!
    Ummmm, you mean that you haven't gained any weight because you get more exercise? Or you've saved what the Limeys call money?

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    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    It's too bad none of these articles have comments. But if they did, i know exactly what they would say.
    Well, of course. It's because they can't handle the truth!


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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Their daughters have put tens of millions of hours of free pornography on the internet.
    I'll just wank to that and save me a bundle!
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