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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Marriage...One and done. And it has been eye opening and amusing to see how many women get upset that a man who has married once, is not willing to risk it again.

    And they absolutely hate the question: What's in it for me?

    Companionship, love, blah blah the usual bullshit responses which are meaningless once you've signed the contract and she knows she can get property and resources backed by the government who supports her as a perpetual victim and any man stupid enough to marry her as a guilty perpetrator.

    I've noped right the fuck out of that bullshit. They get really upset when they realize there's a house of stuff they can't make you get rid of, and shit they can't buy with your money, and friendships they can not destroy in order to isolate you, let alone that you're spending your time how you like and not doing anything for them with your free time.

    Huh. No wonder women's happiness index is down. They are not being given (being empowered with) the opportunity to destroy families and relationships in the same numbers as they were in the past.

    Men won't just sign up to be their bitch slaves because vagina...

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Intimacy is the mind probe women use to check men and women in their social network for reliability.
    Those who do not support or contribute to her ego, status, needs, wants or resources are a liability and cut off.

    This is why women like stoic, strong men. They appear to be resourceful (tingle) but she can't be sure he's going to share those resources with her (tingle) and he could very well be dangerous (tingle tingle tingle).

    Once he's shown himself to be compliant, helpful and ultimately useful, he's out of the tingle zone and now just a node in her social network (supply chain).

    Don't ever underestimate the cold, calculating thought process of the hypergamous "intimacy seeking" woman.

    Intimacy is her way into the heads of other human beings so she can better understand, manipulate and control them to her own ends.

    Why do you think women want intimacy with men so badly? Because they are so giving and nurturing? They use their natural instinct of nurturing children quite differently on other adults. Women use their nurturing skills on children to help the children. Women use their nurturing skills on adults to help themselves.

    Men don't avoid intimacy because men are bad people (as feminists suggest).
    Men avoid intimacy because it doesn't help them, but just exposes them to *toxic femininity* in the form of hypergamy and resource extraction.

    The vagina is just what women wrap their "intimacy" (mind games) in to entice men. Without the sex aspect of intimacy, men would have no need for it, nor any want for it.

    Sex is just the worm squirming on the hook of intimacy.

    Marriage is when you're being filleted on the boat.

    Divorce is when what's left of you is tossed overboard for the sharks.

    And so ends a mighty fine fishing story by Old Uncle Sid this mornin.... Y'aaaar!
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    Human female nurtures her children so they would feed and protect her if she lives long enough where no male will feed and protect her in exchange for sex . There were no lube back then . Just sayin`
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    Quote Originally Posted by Insidious_Sid View Post
    (tingle tingle tingle)
    Sparks, chemistry, huh? In hindsight, who the hell wants to be her spark generator or chemist 24/7?

    You are spot on about intimacy. I mentioned it already, but I keep remembering it because it was such a revelation for me: The single mother I wrote about in my intro flat out asked me: “Wouldn’t you like to be in love?” I told her no. “Why not?” “Because I do not like to be miserable.” She was just sitting there with her trap set—I mean, with starry eyes. Starry eyes, and a smile. Then the woman sitting next to her remarked: “Sooner or later a woman will ensnarl you anyway.” Ensnarl, her word. I will never forget it. I don’t think she realized that she had given women away.

    Also, the SM once told me that “you can tell me anything.” To which I replied: “We are not on such terms with each other.” Boy, I wish I had taken a picture of her face. All of these attempts to get me to open up: traps. Even I could see that, despite my desire for intimacy. Luckily for me, she gave herself away early, well before the aforementioned episodes: once she told me “we could go to work at the same place and share our money with each other.”

    I no longer believe in intimacy with a woman. It is just a man’s delusion and a woman’s deception.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg View Post
    Sparks, chemistry, huh? In hindsight, who the hell wants to be her spark generator or chemist 24/7?

    You are spot on about intimacy. I mentioned it already, but I keep remembering it because it was such a revelation for me: The single mother I wrote about in my intro flat out asked me: “Wouldn’t you like to be in love?” I told her no. “Why not?” “Because I do not like to be miserable.” She was just sitting there with her trap set—I mean, with starry eyes. Starry eyes, and a smile. Then the woman sitting next to her remarked: “Sooner or later a woman will ensnarl you anyway.” Ensnarl, her word. I will never forget it. I don’t think she realized that she had given women away.

    Also, the SM once told me that “you can tell me anything.” To which I replied: “We are not on such terms with each other.” Boy, I wish I had taken a picture of her face. All of these attempts to get me to open up: traps. Even I could see that, despite my desire for intimacy. Luckily for me, she gave herself away early, well before the aforementioned episodes: once she told me “we could go to work at the same place and share our money with each other.”

    I no longer believe in intimacy with a woman. It is just a man’s delusion and a woman’s deception.

    Your avatar kinda matches your thoughts in this very subtly convincing way
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    Now, Alik, if only my face was as handsome as Zoidberg’s.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg View Post
    Now, Alik, if only my face was as handsome as Zoidberg’s.
    Hahahaha I was just being nice ok
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    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg View Post
    This reminds me of a married woman who had a thing for me. On one occasion I reminded her of her wedding vows, to which she replied: Those are just words. Atypical? I doubt it.
    I have heard that exact same thing! Also...."he's so different, and I am no longer happy with him." I was unhappy with my wife often too. I didnt bail. I stayed loyal for 15 years. Women don't have the faintest idea of what sacrifice is because of their solipsistic nature. That "what about me and what do I gain from this?" Attitude is CRUCIAL for any modern mgtow to incorporate into his daily life.

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Quote Originally Posted by Zoidberg View Post
    This reminds me of a married woman who had a thing for me. On one occasion I reminded her of her wedding vows, to which she replied: Those are just words. Atypical? I doubt it.
    as I have asked before... if wedding vows mean nothing to women, why should marriage itself mean anything to men??
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    Quote Originally Posted by Eiji View Post
    as I have asked before... if wedding vows mean nothing to women, why should marriage itself mean anything to men??

    Eiji.....the vows are just something she 'has' to go through in order to get to the best bit....

    Everybody clapping, cheering, staring - and taking photographs of HER.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Captain Maxelson View Post
    I have heard that exact same thing! Also...."he's so different, and I am no longer happy with him." I was unhappy with my wife often too. I didnt bail. I stayed loyal for 15 years. Women don't have the faintest idea of what sacrifice is because of their solipsistic nature. That "what about me and what do I gain from this?" Attitude is CRUCIAL for any modern mgtow to incorporate into his daily life.
    You do know that it is nothing to boast about and everything is wrong about it .

    She hated you precisely for this .


    You fuck , you whipe your dick with a curtain , you leave

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    Re: Marraige Is Over For Men, But Women Still Want It

    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post

    You fuck , you wipe your dick with a curtain , you leave

    THE END !

    Alik.....You're sick and demented. Who in their right mind would do that????

    I prefer the classier, more genteel bathroom hand towel method. Give the next one to use it to dry their face a little treat as well.

    But that's just cos I'm a classy dude

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post
    You do know that it is nothing to boast about and everything is wrong about it .

    She hated you precisely for this .


    You fuck , you whipe your dick with a curtain , you leave

    THE END !
    Buddy I'll be sure to try that trick next time I bang a weemins. She will love me more for it too because it will give her the excuse to spend her hubby's money redecorating!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Alik Sakharov View Post

    You fuck , you wipe your dick with a curtain , you leave

    THE END !

    I once 'accidentally' shot a load all over a sofa that wasn't mine once. It made a right mess.

    I apologised, but the manager in the showroom wasn't happy at all. In the end, he made me buy the fucking thing!!!

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    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    Marriage, at least in the feminised west is over for men long long ago.
    I would disagree about money though. Women are extremely privileged in the work place and have tonnes and tonnes of positive discrimination. If a women chooses a career over family life, she will definitely not be needing a man in her life for financial reasons.

    If you haven't already noticed, women are now by far outstripping men in all fields I can think of in terms of educational attainment and income.

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    For those of us in the Western Hemisphere, "positive discrimination" = "affirmative action."

    Affirmative action is a fleeting palliative for women. In the short term, it satisfies their "you go girl" desire to succeed like men in when they are in their 20's, but it sets them up for unhappiness in their 30's, when they can't keep ignoring their true nature to nurture.

    They are not wired for slaving away for 50 years. Happiness for them will come from finding a beta provider before their eggs dry up, but there are fewer and fewer good beta providers to subsidize their ability to quit working and become stay at home moms because every time a woman gets positive discrimination at work or school, it robs a man of the opportunity to become the walking, talking ATM machine for a woman.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Quote Originally Posted by ChauvinistPig View Post
    We've seen them as girls fantasizing about marriage. We've seen weddings planned to the nth nauseating detail. Women know that their wedding is their shining moment in time to rub things in the faces of their Hive. Women know that marriage is a license to plunder. Women want marriage, because it is a highly profitable venture

    In 2012 the median cost of the typical US wedding $18,086, I'd venture that the median cost is on the order of $30,000 in 2018 Federal Fraud Notes a.k.a the US dollar.

    Who pays? The man, and he pays a price that can include involuntary servitude, prison, or even suicide.

    Screw marriage to Hell and back. I spit on its corpse.
    The Bride's parents paid in the past. Of course, that meant, in the past, the Bride's father invested in the wedding and a dowry, in order that the young man marrying his daughter would have a decent start on the road to creating his own family with his daughter, and caring for that family.

    With father's eliminated from the home, no woman is going to foot the bill for a ridiculous party for her own daughter as she knows this is a waste of time and that the money spent will not be easily recouped, thus now women want the man they marry to pay for the wedding. This suits the new husband's mother in law as she is not having to pay, and the woman herself being married, and having her princess day certainly is not going to want to pay for the party herself. How is that romantic 'for her'? It isn't.

    So men are told to pay for an extravagant wedding for a marriage that likely won't last.
    Men are supposed to accept that at any moment, their family can be dissolved and they will be removed from the lives of their children.
    Men are supposed to assume all of her debt, which is quite extensive with women's growing college debts.

    Then, men are told that they must keep the wife in the quality of life she has become accustomed to, which is another double standard biased in favor of women given that his quality of life will not be considered.

    Marriage for men is all risk and no incentive.

    She can cheat, or just be mildly unhappy, bored, and then simply on a whim choose to destroy the life of a man.

    If divorce is easy to obtain, for childish and petty reasons, and for which those excuses she uses enable her to ignore her vows, then marriage has no value.

    A vow made, with few if any consequences for one party is an empty vow/promise, with no meaning at all.

    Her promise means nothing except a verbal acceptance and acknowledgement that she can break her promise any time she feels like it without suffering stigma for destroying her family, and without concern since the legal system is vastly weighted toward positive outcomes for her.

    In general, Marriage is a slavery contract the government enforces against men with mostly biased rulings in favor of a women. Exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Demosthenes View Post
    The Bride's parents paid in the past. Of course, that meant, in the past, the Bride's father invested in the wedding and a dowry, in order that the young man marrying his daughter would have a decent start on the road to creating his own family with his daughter, and caring for that family.

    With father's eliminated fromt he home, no woman is going to foot the bill for a ridiculous party for her own daughter as she knows this is a waste of time and that the money spent will not be easily recouped, thus now women want the man they marry to pay for the wedding. This suits the new husband's mother in law as she is not having to pay, and the woman herself being married, and having her princess day certainly isn;t going to want to pay for the party herself. How is that romantic 'for her'? It isn't.

    So men are told to pay for an extravagant wedding for a marriage that likely won't last.
    Men are supposed to accept that at any moment, their family can be dissolved and they will be removed from the lives of their children.
    Men are supposed to assume all of her debt, which is quite extensive with women's growing college debts.

    Then, men are told that they must keep the wife in the quality of life she has become accustomed to, which is another double standard biased in favor of women given that his quality of life will not be considered.

    Marriage for men is all risk and no incentive.

    She can cheat, or just be mildly unhappy, bored, and then simply on a whim choose to destroy the life of a man.

    If divorce is easy to obtain, for childish and petty reasons, and for which those excuses she uses enable her to ignore her vows, then marriage has no value.

    A vow made, with few if any consequences for one party is an empty vow/promise, with no meaning at all.

    Her promise means nothing except a verbal acceptance and acknowledgement that she can break her promise any time she feels like it without suffering stigma for destorying her family, and withour concern since the legal system is vastly weighted toward positive outcomes for her.

    In general, Marriage is a slavery contract the government enforces against men with mostly biased rulings in favor of a women. Exceptions to the rule do not invalidate the rule.
    Contrary to what Discovery channel tells you settled way of living with growing crops and domesticated animals was not the choice of hunters gatherers . It was forced upon them .

    Cause it was the only way to barter tax what they grow and what they raise .

    The remaining hunters gatherers would constantly rob the now farmers and that pissed off the rulers big time . Hence Robin Hood Cause farmers would quickly lose their fighting skills .

    Monogamy and nuclear family was forced upon naturally polygamous hunters .

    Nuclear family is a perfect set up for making them to work more and more , and produce more , and more for the rulers . And you can enforce the obligation to raise the children upon young men ( they wouldnt do it on their own ) .
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    I always get a good laugh when I see a self proclaimed "Strong independent woman looking for marriage". The oxymoron of our times.


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