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    Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Hello. I'm new to this forum and wondering whats the lastest research in safe reliable contraceptive and its implications for MGTOW?

    Remember that the women and feminists were impowered when the female pill was available to control when their bodies reproduced.

    I have read that there were trials of chemical vasectomy of young men that was reversible after long period of time .

    Do you think that women would treat men more nicely if men started controlling their reproduction? There would be fewer shotgun marriages and less single mothers living off the taxe dollars men earn.

    I do think that the feminists would block and want it banned for men who want control when they want children if any.

    I'll celebrate the rollout of a male pill.

    What does the forum think.
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by tribune View Post
    Do you think that women would treat men more nicely if men started controlling their reproduction?
    Short answer - no!

    Longer answer - Uh-uh, no, no way, not an ice-cube's chance in hell!

    Explanation:

    The manipulating and conniving ways of women and their desire to turn us all into their personal slaves are intrinsic to their natures, it has little if anything to do with reproduction. Check out the MGTOW dictionary here:

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    When they do use reproduction against men it is merely as a tool to achieve their goals, one of many.
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Being sexually active in today's environment?

    You're safer on a pogo-stick in a heavily fortified minefield!
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    I was holding great hopes for Vaselgel, but they seem to have withered.

    There's only one reliable way: full vasectomy. Why on Earth would anyone want it reversing? You don't ask that a tumor removal be reversible.

    If you do insist on having the snip but still being sexually active, never tell them you've had a vasectomy because it is an instant pussy dryer (so I hear). That will be next - it'll become (yet another) form of rape if a sterile man fails to inform the cunt of this fact in advance.

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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    What? Cut the gravy train? (Pun intended) You'll get accused of just pleasuring your self, with nothing in it for her. (No payday for the next 20 years)
    Just think of all the "Gold diggers" who need to be impregnated...What a sexist pig you are. No way to trap a wallet, heavens forbid!!!
    The answer, I kinda don't think they'd like it, just a guess.
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by tribune View Post
    Do you think that women would treat men more nicely if men started controlling their reproduction?
    Nope. In fact the opposite is true. Women are all about control of the males under their thumb. The ability to choose to "Ooopsie" some poor schmuck if she chooses (whether real or not, delivered to term or not) is a big part of that power of control, even if she decides not to exercise it.

    I had been dating/FWB a girl since her twenties on an off (before and after my marriage was still ongoing) and afterwards we got back together again and I thought it might still be a thing. I'd had a vasectomy a year or two earlier so that I couldn't be "Ooopsied" and she was hot to trot sexwise. As soon as I mentioned I'd had a vasectomy she went as cold as ice and although she tried to fucking correct that in the weeks that followed, her heart just wasn't in it. We split up and haven't spoken since and that was nearly 5 years ago.

    If you are going to fuck some cunt, even if you are on some form of male birth control (condoms aside), then you should keep that to yourself and keep your male birth control separate and hidden.

    In fact you should even keep your condoms protected from tampering beforehand (nice little pin through the tip) and afterwards because of the potential for sperm jacking. Make sure they are tied and flushed down the toilet as soon as you are done.
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Its seems from the response that the MGTOW community would rather a full surgical vasectomy that cannot be reversed. Fair enough. I only argued that men should be given a choice and have full power to determine their reproduction rights.
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by tribune View Post
    Its seems from the response that the MGTOW community
    I would offer that the replies you receive represent the individual views of the people who show up here to supply them and not a contract as a "community". After all, we are each going our own way, as are you, and I would hate to think that you think there is a specific canon on how we do that, perhaps other than:

    Do not marry. Do not co-habitate. Do not impregnate.

    Quote Originally Posted by tribune View Post
    I only argued that men should be given a choice and have full power to determine their reproduction rights.
    A choice of birth control? No argument from me. Just be smart and be in full control of it. If you fuck-up at fucking, you're fucked.
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    I think Delmore has it right: women actively dislike the idea of men gaining any control over the reproductive process, much as they dislike men gaining authority over child-rearing habits. They consider these domains theirs and sharing power just isn't part of the plan.

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    There would be a large market for a male contraceptive pill, but as others have pointed out, the matriarchy frowns upon it.

    There has been some progress in India, but reports say that there are side effects.

    In meantime, there is this. Once you try it, you will not go back to those 18th century designs.

    https://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Female_condom


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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Thanks for replies. I hope there will soon be a contraceptive pill for the general male population. Maybe women will then be nicer to us if they want children?
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    I would tread very carefully in the area of male contraceptives. Abstinence or paper-trail of recurring tests that show your vasectomy is still effective are your best bets, and even these are irrelevant to a lot of family courts.

    If you have no proof that you used birth control, then that is all the evidence the court needs to put your name on a birth certificate. The family courts ordering a paternity test based on the man's testimony of using birth control? I would not hold my breath.

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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by tribune View Post
    Do you think that women would treat men more nicely if men started controlling their reproduction?

    YES!

    I do think that the feminists would block and want it banned for men who want control when they want children if any.

    YES!

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    "Yes" to both questions. And that is why they will do all they can to prevent it being developed and made available.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by tribune View Post
    Do you think that women would treat men more nicely if men started controlling their reproduction? There would be fewer shotgun marriages and less single mothers living off the taxe dollars men earn.
    NO.

    This is a common theme I see among MGTOW, and something I experienced myself when I was first starting out. It is pretty damn obvious to any man with a brain that western women do not value western men at all. Of course, they don't need to, because they have so many ways to take our money and resources for free. Why would they value something they get for free?

    So the question is, would women value men if they needed to rely on men? The answer is still a strong resounding NO.

    If you want to understand anything about MGTOW, understand this. Women do not give a fuck about men, they never have, and they never will. No woman will ever love a man the same way a man loves a woman. What a man thinks is love, is completely different from what a woman thinks is love.

    Women evolved to have a dualistic mating strategy. They basically evolved to find beta guys to give them resources, and cheat on them with alphas to get that prime DNA. If you understand this, and look at everything they have done all the way from the beginning of history to present day, it all makes sense.

    This is all scientifically proven by the way. It's why women are more attracted to more masculine men when they ovulate, and more feminine men when they are not ready to conceive. THINK about why this is. It explains everything. They don't give a fuck about men. They either want your genes, or your resources. They don't even think about you as a person. They don't care about their men, or even their own children for that matter. They care about themselves, and only themselves.


    Anyway, since that rant is now out of the way...get a vasectomy, or just go monk. Or even do both. I haven't even been on a date in eight months, but not a day has gone by that I haven't been glad I got snipped. Arguably the best investment I ever made.

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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Xanthine View Post
    get a vasectomy, or just go monk. Or even do both. I haven't even been on a date in eight months, but not a day has gone by that I haven't been glad I got snipped. Arguably the best investment I ever made.
    Yep. I've done both and don't regret it one little bit. Since my vasectomy I've gradually reduced the amount of paid whore hours too. Haven't felt the need for a visit to Pattaya or even a local ugly, fat fuck for ages.
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by tribune View Post
    Thanks for replies. I hope there will soon be a contraceptive pill for the general male population. Maybe women will then be nicer to us if they want children?
    Right up untill they get knocked up, then they will return to being a beast. Don't kid your self, it ain't worth the time.
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    Quote Originally Posted by Delmore Schwartz View Post
    Yep. I've done both and don't regret it one little bit. Since my vasectomy I've gradually reduced the amount of paid whore hours too. Haven't felt the need for a visit to Pattaya or even a local ugly, fat fuck for ages.
    The vasectomy has diminished your libido? Really?
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

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    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    The vasectomy has diminished your libido? Really?
    Nope. In fact since I lost the weight in 2018, my libido has been roaring like a young un. It's just that my tolerance for bullshit from women, even whores has reached the point that I have no interest in the physical (at least not recently), just sticking to the porn as and when required. The women are hotter, less cunty, get to the point and are on demand 24/7 from my living room or bedroom in High Definition.

    For me, that's as much woman as I need. I ain't an Incel, because if I want to get some of the real deal it is an internet link away (the sort of thing being legal in the UK, albeit a very grey area)

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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by CultVoid View Post
    If you do insist on having the snip but still being sexually active, never tell them you've had a vasectomy because it is an instant pussy dryer (so I hear). That will be next - it'll become (yet another) form of rape if a sterile man fails to inform the cunt of this fact in advance.
    That I can believe; it would be a logical next-step towards the emasculation of men and the triumph of the matriarchy.

    Consider that lying about one's wealth or status to get into her pants is now being considered a form of 'assault'. Consider that paternal DNA testing is illegal in much of Europe. Consider that the almost universal use of the Duluth Model can have you arrested for 'domestic violence' simply for cutting up her credit card.

    It's not worth it, if you have anything of value that you wouldn't care to lose.
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    Re: Male Contraceptives and MGTOW

    Quote Originally Posted by Eddie Willers View Post
    Consider that lying about one's wealth or status to get into her pants is now being considered a form of 'assault'. Consider that paternal DNA testing is illegal in much of Europe. Consider that the almost universal use of the Duluth Model can have you arrested for 'domestic violence' simply for cutting up her credit card.
    Personally, I hope that all of these things do become illegal, classified as domestic violence or whatever. I also hope the powers that be prosecute to the full extent of the law and these matters are printed on every newspaper and the headline of every news channel.

    NOT because I want to throw men under the bus, but because matters will have to get a lot worse and the toxic nature of our society will have to be shoved in men's faces every day if things are to ever change.

    Doesn't affect me though, since I stay away from women in all matters, not just the sexual.

    I don't handle snakes, wrestle alligators or kiss scorpions either - for exactly the same reasons.
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