Thread: Losing weight and looking good is only the tip of the iceberg of getting a girlfriend

Here's all the other things you have to do that society doesn't tell you and will laugh as you stumble in the dark. It took me 33 years to learn all this and if it wasn't for the YouTubers I probably would have never figured it out.

You also have to:

Have good posture

Not have social anxiety

Act like nothing affects you or bothers you

Be masculine (even though women say they don't like toxic masculinity it's a trick in society. They do actually only want masculine men and it's one of the most important requirements)

Be capable in everything

Don't drink (you may think it helps you get girls, but it's another trap and it makes everything worse and hurts your masculine energy and presence which is hugely important as I mentioned earlier)

Don't fidget

Have status

There you have it. THE treasure trove of information and it took me 33 years of going in circles blindly and 2 suicide attempts to learn all this.

Though honestly I can't do it. Good luck to those who can, I been trying my whole life and women have almost cost me my life and my freedom multiple times.

I'm fucking exhausted and I can't take it anymore!

I can tell you from my experience...the day you can live without giving a shit about what anyone thinks, wants or expects is the day you taste true freedom.

Let go of ego.

You are no better or worse than anyone...we are all here for a short time and things can change in a second.

Let go of the things you think you need in life (validation, sex, wife, family, tons of money, random crap you buy, status, etc).

There are days I will wear the bummiest clothes I have...I'll slouch if I want to...I don't give a fuck...minimal effort in styling my hair other than running my fingers through it...beard grown out and not trimmed for 6 months.

The world is fickle Presium. You could do all that shit and most of the time it wouldn't change a thing.

You also need to make sure that your dick works on demand and overtime. Never mind that you worked your ass off today or are feeling sick or just feeling plain exhausted from your schedule. Man up, get hard, and pump away while the fat, gross mess beneath you stares at the wall, dreaming about the Cuban pool boy with a an ass she can crack stone on.

But when she’s tired or not in the mood, stop being so goddamned entitled and demanding you toxic creature. Whack it off in the bathroom and off to sleep you go.

As can be the case all too often, the question posed is premature. Before asking yourself "What do I need to do to get a girlfriend", you should first ask yourself, "Why do I want a girlfriend?" Only after you've answered this question should you figure out what you need to do to get one. After this, there's a third question; "Is what I have to do to get a girlfriend worth what I want a girlfriend for in the first place?"

In my humble opinion, asking the first and third questions about almost anything, from a house, to a car, to higher education to a romantic partner, etc., could save you a whole lot of wasted time, effort, money and stress.

Originally Posted by Presium

Here's all the other things you have to do that society doesn't tell you and will laugh as you stumble in the dark. It took me 33 years to learn all this and if it wasn't for the YouTubers I probably would have never figured it out.

You also have to:

Have good posture

Not have social anxiety

Act like nothing affects you or bothers you

Be masculine (even though women say they don't like toxic masculinity it's a trick in society. They do actually only want masculine men and it's one of the most important requirements)

Be capable in everything

Don't drink (you may think it helps you get girls, but it's another trap and it makes everything worse and hurts your masculine energy and presence which is hugely important as I mentioned earlier)

Don't fidget

Have status

There you have it. THE treasure trove of information and it took me 33 years of going in circles blindly and 2 suicide attempts to learn all this.

Though honestly I can't do it. Good luck to those who can, I been trying my whole life and women have almost cost me my life and my freedom multiple times.

I'm fucking exhausted and I can't take it anymore!

You forgot to mention having lots of money to blow on her.

Originally Posted by K-Dog

You forgot to mention having lots of money to blow on her.

And when times are lean, she's GONE, no matter who she is, GONE!

So why not ride this economic rollercoaster of life all to ourselves? We can't abandon ourselves and nobody can divide us within ourselves! Easy math; #1.

Save yourself heaps of grief...

Just hire one. It's a business transaction, both parties are up front what you want... Leave the con job to the "Blue Pillers". Demand a quality service and pay for that service. Cheap out and you will pay multiple times over...

Originally Posted by K-Dog

You forgot to mention having lots of money to blow on her.

Lots and lots of delicious money.

It’s women’s true love.

Originally Posted by DangZagnut

Lots and lots of delicious money.

It’s women’s true love.

It's hard to resist the love of money, especially when it's the only thing in this world that loves you back!

As one song goes, "Money talks. It never lies." ("Kiss and Tell", Bryan Ferry)

"Where is my 6'2 bodybuilding Instagram influencer with 100k followers"

I've often thought that people looking to change the look of their body in order to gain acceptance have some sort of psychological problems.

But nowadays being psychologically unhealthy is normalized! Look at how many people are unhappy and on pills.

Look at all the guys slaving away in the gym, taking supplements and having these rigid diets counting macros to build and shape muscles (not to mention steroids). That's body dysmorphia. What's it for? Plenty of people will beat around the bush talking about being "healthy" but it's really about wanting to change their looks and get more acceptance/validation from women.

A person just exercising for health reasons will mainly just look...normal...perhaps even a bit "scrawny" (by fitness influencer standards) if they have a healthy BMI (granted I know BMI isn't perfect). That means your average 5'9 man is weighing about 150-170 lbs. He can probably bench press at least his body weight, do a good amount of push-ups/pull-ups and run a decent distance. That's it...he's fit, healthy weight and his mind isn't overly consumed with needing to look a different way and more like Arnold or the Rock.

A lot of the fitness shit we see on social media is total bullshit.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Look at all the guys slaving away in the gym, taking supplements and having these rigid diets counting macros to build and shape muscles (not to mention steroids). That's body dysmorphia. What's it for? Plenty of people will beat around the bush talking about being "healthy" but it's really about wanting to change their looks and get more acceptance/validation from women.

A person just exercising for health reasons will mainly just look...normal...perhaps even a bit "scrawny" (by fitness influencer standards) if they have a healthy BMI (granted I know BMI isn't perfect). That means your average 5'9 man is weighing about 150-170 lbs. He can probably bench press at least his body weight, do a good amount of push-ups/pull-ups and run a decent distance. That's it...he's fit, healthy weight and his mind isn't overly consumed with needing to look a different way and more like Arnold or the Rock.

Hell, when you get to be my age (40ish), you have to slave away in the gym and be on a rigid diet in order to be fit and look normal. Want to look like Arnold or The Rock? Better have great genetics and/or be on roids/HGH and that's at any age.

Judging by how many married women and other guys gfs have shown interest, asked for my number, asked me to take their number, or shown other forms of interest....I wonder who actually 'has a gf'. There was even a woman that told me she was single and after I politely declined her offer, a few weeks later I heard talk about her being engaged to her bf. When people asked how long she'd been seeing him she went deadly silent! You can guess the reason.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

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A lot of the fitness shit we see on social media is total bullshit.

It is not bullshit....it is big business.

For hundreds of years, Brazilian businessmen lamented "If only we could get those billions of Chinese to drink coffee instead of tea, we would be rich."

For decades, big businessmen lamented, "If only we could get millions of American men to be as vain as women, we would be rich."

Women spent millions on beauty products, but for most post-WWII men, all their grooming gear still fit in the little kit bag they were issued while in the service: A razor, shaving cream, a toothbrush, tooth paste, a comb, and a nail clipper. In the 1950s, a tube of Brylcream was added.

A big breakthrough was getting post 1970s men to buy hairspray, once long hair and a variety of hair styles became acceptable.

But nothing was a lucrative as the fitness industry Arnold Schwarzenegger inspired. A generation of WWII veterans who had jumped into Normandy, stormed Omaha Beach, or fought on Iwo Jima, and then came home to work physically demanding, blue collar jobs for the next 30 years had no reason to doubt their physicality.

Their sons and grandsons, however, their hands baby soft from from jerking off a pencil all day, or tapping away at keyboards in air conditioned offices were very susceptible. These were hands that did not swing hammers, turn wrenches, or pull rope. These were men who never staggered under a heavy back pack, dig a trench or a foxhole, run five miles in boots, or beat a diesel engine into submission.

These were the customers for every charlatan selling a gym membership, a diet plan, bath gel, expensive sneakers, or athletic clothing.

When you convince men that they must preen like peacocks to get female attention, you have tapped into a market that is willing to pay you anything. When men must become as decorative as women, they will spend like women.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

It is not bullshit....it is big business.

For hundreds of years, Brazilian businessmen lamented "If only we could get those billions of Chinese to drink coffee instead of tea, we would be rich."

For decades, big businessmen lamented, "If only we could get millions of American men to be as vain as women, we would be rich."

Women spent millions on beauty products, but for most post-WWII men, all their grooming gear still fit in the little kit bag they were issued while in the service: A razor, shaving cream, a toothbrush, tooth paste, a comb, and a nail clipper. In the 1950s, a tube of Brylcream was added.

A big breakthrough was getting post 1970s men to buy hairspray, once long hair and a variety of hair styles became acceptable.

But nothing was a lucrative as the fitness industry Arnold Schwarzenegger inspired. A generation of WWII veterans who had jumped into Normandy, stormed Omaha Beach, or fought on Iwo Jima, and then came home to work physically demanding, blue collar jobs for the next 30 years had no reason to doubt their physicality.

Their sons and grandsons, however, their hands baby soft from from jerking off a pencil all day, or tapping away at keyboards in air conditioned offices were very susceptible. These were hands that did not swing hammers, turn wrenches, or pull rope. These were men who never staggered under a heavy back pack, dig a trench or a foxhole, run five miles in boots, or beat a diesel engine into submission.

These were the customers for every charlatan selling a gym membership, a diet plan, bath gel, expensive sneakers, or athletic clothing.

When you convince men that they must preen like peacocks to get female attention, you have tapped into a market that is willing to pay you anything. When men must become as decorative as women, they will spend like women.

Damn brother very insightful. There's money behind just about everything and I can definitely see how getting men overly concerned with appearances can be worth trillions.

The right tattoos, expensive hair cuts, wardrobes full of designer clothing, the sneaker industry, fitted hats, skin care products, body hair removal, jewelry, earrings, watches, colognes, etc, etc. PLUS the TONS of fitness stuff to be bought having to do with making the male body more "attractive" (gym memberships, supplements, gadgets, clothing, etc). I forgot the number but I've heard the fitness industry is in the billions of dollars. Plenty of men out there slaving away in gyms trying to change their bodies...FOR WHAT? I hear all kinds of BS reasons but the bottom line is (barring health problems) a person doesn't try to change the look of their body unless they've been made to feel insecure in some way. When I see a dude (tons of them) into the "gym bro culture" shit I automatically think he's insecure and needing external validation...doesn't matter how bulging the muscles or how much weight he can lift.

Hell, I get a little nauseous at seeing the dudes acting like being at the gym puts them in some kind of brotherhood...high fiving all over the place, bro talk, motivating each other to lift more weight, congratulating each other, etc, etc.

Shit if you want to be fit get a hard ass job and get paid to develop those muscles with some kind of objective in mind...the guys that work like that are often "skinny" by gym bro standards though.

Then on top of that a man has to have the status of the right job (college$$), the house ($$$), the car,($$$) be well traveled($$$).

Shit being a modern man is a super expensive endeavor. Also have to factor in the costs of divorce, child support, alimony, etc).

Go your own way and be on the look out for bullshit at every corner.

Everyone that goes to a gym (regardless of the reason) and works out is "peacocking" and being ripped off? Whatever.

> Shit if you want to be fit get a hard ass job and get paid to develop those muscles with some kind of objective in mind...the guys that work like that are often "skinny" by gym bro standards though.

Why do that if you get paid a lot more doing something doing something else?

> Hell, I get a little nauseous at seeing the dudes acting like being at the gym puts them in some kind of brotherhood...high fiving all over the place, bro talk, motivating each other to lift more weight, congratulating each other, etc, etc.

God forbid that males bond with each other through sports or working out or whatever.

I can think of far worse ways one can spend their time (or money).

Originally Posted by Brock

Everyone that goes to a gym (regardless of the reason) and works out is "peacocking" and being ripped off? Whatever.

> Shit if you want to be fit get a hard ass job and get paid to develop those muscles with some kind of objective in mind...the guys that work like that are often "skinny" by gym bro standards though.

Why do that if you get paid a lot more doing something doing something else?

> Hell, I get a little nauseous at seeing the dudes acting like being at the gym puts them in some kind of brotherhood...high fiving all over the place, bro talk, motivating each other to lift more weight, congratulating each other, etc, etc.

God forbid that males bond with each other through sports or working out or whatever.

I can think of far worse ways one can spend their time (or money).

I make no apologies for calling it how I see it. Staying "fit" is just something I casually do through things I enjoy doing. Hell, too much of it probably wears out your joints more than it helps. I can't count all the people I've known that couldn't let lifting/gainz go and had problems by age 50. I'm not strutting around some hamster container (gym) in spandex and tank tops like many people I see. I'm not putting much effort into changing my diet and counting macros to look different. Fuck how I look. If you aren't trying to impress women should your looks ever even cross your mind as a man? "Going to the gym" has become such a yuppie bullshit thing to do..."I'm going to the gym" well la-di-da sunflower. "Oh no...it's leg day." Smack some dudes on the tushie if they set a PR.

Sports and working out are two completely unrelated things to me. Sure, I'll bond to some degree with dudes on my basketball team that are working towards a similar objective. I'm not bonding with dudes that are trying to build muscle (I question if building muscle is even inherently healthy in and of itself?) to change their looks so they feel more confidant and/or to attract women. Work on feeing confident regardless of how you look, eat some fruits and veggies and just do things you enjoy doing. However you look is how you look. Don't gain confidence from how appealing you are to women. If boring ass repetitive lifting of weights over and over and over for years and stressing over daily protein needs gets you off than damn what can I say.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

I make no apologies for calling it how I see it.

Neither do I

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Staying "fit" is just something I casually do through things I enjoy doing. Hell, too much of it probably wears out your joints more than it helps. I can't count all the people I've known that couldn't let lifting/gainz go and had problems by age 50.

Maybe so but you can overdo any activity. I've known guys who work in a trade who've had problems by age 50. Ditto for guys in a white collar job that sit on their asses all the time.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

I'm not strutting around some hamster container (gym) in spandex and tank tops like many people I see. I'm not putting much effort into changing my diet and counting macros to look different. Fuck how I look. If you aren't trying to impress women should your looks ever even cross your mind as a man? "Going to the gym" has become such a yuppie bullshit thing to do..."I'm going to the gym" well la-di-da sunflower. "Oh no...it's leg day." Smack some dudes on the tushie if they set a PR.

"yuppie bullshit"

LOL, u mad bro? Who made you the ultimate judge on what a "man" is?

Not everyone in a gym struts around in spandex and tank tops lol. You might want to separate the dude bros from lifters who exercise to lift and stay in shape. I'm sure there are plenty of men here who go to the gym to keep themselves in shape.

As for impressing women....just because someone lifts doesn't mean they're looking to impress women. I recall a thread you started awhile back where you were trying to impress some woman.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Sports and working out are two completely unrelated things to me. Sure, I'll bond to some degree with dudes on my basketball team that are working towards a similar objective. I'm not bonding with dudes that are trying to build muscle (I question if building muscle is even inherently healthy in and of itself?) to change their looks so they feel more confidant and/or to attract women. Work on feeing confident regardless of how you look, eat some fruits and veggies and just do things you enjoy doing. However you look is how you look. Don't gain confidence from how appealing you are to women. If boring ass repetitive lifting of weights over and over and over for years and stressing over daily protein needs gets you off than damn what can I say.

How about letting people do what works for them and you do what works for you? Some people suck at basketball. Maybe you don't. What you call boring, someone else may enjoy.

Not every lifter a dude bro. Some dude lifting weights in a gym isn't hurting anyone.

BTW much of the fitness industry IS bullshit but one can still lift without falling for a "scam".