Thread: Let's play chess (or: why I walked away from dating)

That looks about right. It almost seems comical to even think about making the effort to date a woman in today's world. My parents in their 70s are blue pilled and they get a little perturbed at me telling them how male/female interaction operates today. I tell them that even fat chicks have hundreds of dudes from all over the place wanting to drink their bath water. Single moms that simply *are not fat* making $10/hr part time at a run down gas station think they are modern day Marilyn Monroes. I be damned if I'm participating in such a circus...juice ain't worth the squeeze.

And I certainly wouldn't relationship up one them after they've slutted it up for 20 years, hit the wall, matured a little and now want a "good man" to carry them into old age. I say women should choke on the world they've created. Used to love seeing about 80% of dating profiles saying "not looking to hook up", "no FWB", etc.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

That looks about right. It almost seems comical to even think about making the effort to date a woman in today's world. My parents in their 70s are blue pilled and they get a little perturbed at me telling them how male/female interaction operates today. I tell them that even fat chicks have hundreds of dudes from all over the place wanting to drink their bath water. Single moms that simply *are not fat* making $10/hr part time at a run down gas station think they are modern day Marilyn Monroes. I be damned if I'm participating in such a circus...juice ain't worth the squeeze.

And I certainly wouldn't relationship up one them after they've slutted it up for 20 years, hit the wall, matured a little and now want a "good man" to carry them into old age. I say women should choke on the world they've created. Used to love seeing about 80% of dating profiles saying "not looking to hook up", "no FWB", etc.

Yes, it's been absurd for decades. Men have been expected to shell out absurd amounts of money to date women who are spinning multiple plates. The Internet, and then dating apps, made things even worse, and feminism just made women even more unrealistic than they were. I don't think they ever considered that men might just opt out. It was already worth opting out circa 1985, but now any dude who doesn't opt out is deluded.

A friend of mine, who stays very fit and has an excellent paying job got engaged. He was pulling in about 80K a year, and his fat pig fiancée was making minimum wage working at a thrift shop! She was GROSS! He paid about 4K for an engagement ring, and even she cheated on him! He was totally settling for obese and grotesque garbage. Even the thrift store didn't want to keep her. They fired her for using profanity at customers. She was the bottom of the barrel, and he couldn't get fidelity even from her.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

Yes, it's been absurd for decades. Men have been expected to shell out absurd amounts of money to date women who are spinning multiple plates. The Internet, and then dating apps, made things even worse, and feminism just made women even more unrealistic than they were. I don't think they ever considered that men might just opt out. It was already worth opting out circa 1985, but now any dude who doesn't opt out is deluded.

Yes. I basically cringe any time I see a dude cucked up to modern woman. Amongst my FB friends I recently saw a mom of 3 that lost 150 lbs find a man after years of being single...she quickly went all-in on this seemingly normal guy and married him up within a year. I couldn't help but gag at their domestic bliss including matching jammies on Christmas. Eeeeek. Someone needed to shake the guy but I guess he was super desperate for pussy...even with loose skin hanging all over.

Another woman that had previously sent me pics of her butt (actually fat but she thought "thick") within an hour of talking found a rather simpy looking dude and within 2 months he was everywhere with her...including the whole family and kids on Christmas pics with everyone wearing matching PJs.

Bottom line...men don't let these women cuck you for a piece of puss. And for crying out loud don't sell out your manhood and all your ancestors by taking pics in matching PJs with some ho and her family/kids. That embarrasses even strangers.

A friend of mine, who stays very fit and has an excellent paying job got engaged. He was pulling in about 80K a year, and his fat pig fiancée was making minimum wage working at a thrift shop! She was GROSS! He paid about 4K for an engagement ring, and even she cheated on him! He was totally settling for obese and grotesque garbage. Even the thrift store didn't want to keep her. They fired her for using profanity at customers. She was the bottom of the barrel, and he couldn't get fidelity even from her.

What the hell was he thinking? Dudes need to wise up and stop being Mr Nice Guy to these hoes just to get a piece of booty. They will only hate them for it. Basically however well you treat a woman becomes the baseline/minimum for how she thinks you should treat her. Hopefully he came out better than me and actually got the engagement ring back. With my ex I was with her at the courthouse doing paperwork for her divorce and at the pawnshop selling her wedding ring.....then 4-5 years later she kept the engagement ring I bought her and was undoubtably back at the pawnshop selling it prior to entering another relationship 6-7 months after she left me. Her mom has been married 4 times though so I guess they know pretty well how to dispose of old wedding rings. 😁

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Yes. I basically cringe any time I see a dude cucked up to modern woman. Amongst my FB friends I recently saw a mom of 3 that lost 150 lbs find a man after years of being single...she quickly went all-in on this seemingly normal guy and married him up within a year. I couldn't help but gag at their domestic bliss including matching jammies on Christmas. Eeeeek. Someone needed to shake the guy but I guess he was super desperate for pussy...even with loose skin hanging all over.

Another woman that had previously sent me pics of her butt (actually fat but she thought "thick") within an hour of talking found a rather simpy looking dude and within 2 months he was everywhere with her...including the whole family and kids on Christmas pics with everyone wearing matching PJs.

Bottom line...men don't let these women cuck you for a piece of puss. And for crying out loud don't sell out your manhood and all your ancestors by taking pics in matching PJs with some ho and her family/kids. That embarrasses even strangers.

What the hell was he thinking? Dudes need to wise up and stop being Mr Nice Guy to these hoes just to get a piece of booty. They will only hate them for it. Basically however well you treat a woman becomes the baseline/minimum for how she thinks you should treat her. Hopefully he came out better than me and actually got the engagement ring back. With my ex I was with her at the courthouse doing paperwork for her divorce and at the pawnshop selling her wedding ring.....then 4-5 years later she kept the engagement ring I bought her and was undoubtably back at the pawnshop selling it prior to entering another relationship 6-7 months after she left me. Her mom has been married 4 times though so I guess they know pretty well how to dispose of old wedding rings. 

With a few cloths pins and a couple sticks, he can take her wingsuit flying!

Originally Posted by mgtower

With a few cloths pins and a couple sticks, he can take her wingsuit flying!

LOL...3 instakids, wingsuit flying and matching pjs. Dude literally hit the jackpot.

It’s amazing how far a guy will go to solidify his life of stale missionary sex. You know your balls have officially been hacked off when matching Christmas pajamas seem like a good idea.

These blue-pilled simps aren’t that stupid or naive. They know the game. They’re more than willing to look like jackasses just for a slice of the pie. They figure the twat they’re with will just stay put until he can’t get it up anymore. Little do they know that her dreams are filled with Chads and Tyrones, not his goofy ass-pajamas.

I hope the woman bought him a suit along with the pajamas. He’ll need something to wear to court for the divorce proceedings.

I was thinking today at the gym...you know how women start stacking their little qualifiers for a man that basically filters their options down to 1% of men that meet their standards...well I think any man choosing to date and not in desperation for vagina would also filter women down to about 1%. And that should logically tell him that pursuing women isn't worth it.

And a man's list need not be nearly as superficial as a woman's. He may include things like: not overweight, no drug/alcohol addictions, credit that isn't in the toilet, not drowning in debt, doesn't have 5+ cats, works a job, hasn't been through multiple divorces, bodycount under 10 or 15. Just on that criteria alone a man would be down to 10% or less of available women. And that's before even seeing a face or personality or knowing if she's faithful or knowing if there's mutual attraction. It's just not logical for a man to date in today's world. The bar for women is set drastically lower than it is for men yet very very few women pass it. A lot of men will however lose all logic, turn a blind eye to red flags and declare they've found a unicorn because they're afraid of being alone.

Originally Posted by TigPlaze

A friend of mine, who stays very fit and has an excellent paying job got engaged. He was pulling in about 80K a year, and his fat pig fiancée was making minimum wage working at a thrift shop! She was GROSS! He paid about 4K for an engagement ring, and even she cheated on him! He was totally settling for obese and grotesque garbage. Even the thrift store didn't want to keep her. They fired her for using profanity at customers. She was the bottom of the barrel, and he couldn't get fidelity even from her.

Female attraction, the 6 sixes, strong men etc. He was fit, good paying job but he committed to her or they got engaged. They likely got joint bank accounts also. This shows his weakness giving (giving in) everything to her. She lost attraction because he was no longer strong to her, her hypergamy made her seek a man of higher value (stronger).

They all say they want a strong man in body and mine, that will commit to her, treat her like a queen, and give her everything... That is totally impossible, it's like being strong and weak at the same time, they are polar opposites.

Look at her actions, not what she says.

Loyalty is not a female trait.

Fat chicks can still get men hitting on them. IMO they are likely to cheat more/easier because they don't get as much validation for their looks as hot chicks.

Originally Posted by RustyNuts

Fat chicks can still get men hitting on them. IMO they are likely to cheat more/easier because they don't get as much validation for their looks as hot chicks.

I agree with that. I think the fat ones in particular rationalize and justify cheating by telling themselves that any guy they’re with is going to cheat on them eventually for being fat and unattractive. A fat chick’s mental process is quite fucked up and full of cognitive distortions. It sort of operates on a “I’ll do it to him/get him before he gets me” kind of thing with respect to cheating.

Get a credit card, a passport, and a suitcase and become a passport playa.

If you are not careful, in the West, dating leads to a relationship, a relationship leads to marriage, marriage leads to divorce...if you are lucky.

Originally Posted by sam luis obispo

Get a credit card, a passport, and a suitcase and become a passport playa.

If you are not careful, in the West, dating leads to a relationship, a relationship leads to marriage, marriage leads to divorce...if you are lucky.

Or just pay for sex locally. It's not an enforceable law so you won't be caught for it unless you overtly mention paying for sexual acts.

I have a rate of 90% of "good" experiences with escorts compared with a close to 0% "good" experience rate trying to date women the "normal" way.

Once you start seeing sex for what it is...basically currency for women then it starts to lose some luster.

Which I guess makes red-pill awareness, by analogy, women stalemating the men.

Originally Posted by Rock

Or just pay for sex locally. It's not an enforceable law so you won't be caught for it unless you overtly mention paying for sexual acts.

I have a rate of 90% of "good" experiences with escorts compared with a close to 0% "good" experience rate trying to date women the "normal" way.

Better selection, more value, more variety, fewer legal consequences, no poundme2 culture overseas.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Once you start seeing sex for what it is...basically currency for women then it starts to lose some luster.

Yes,

-Then you look at the number of sexless marriages when the wife is the cause, not wanting/feeling like participating, but still wanting all the benefits of the currency exchange... Her SUV, Master Card and Visa, international holiday vacations/ cruises, loaded bank accounts...

-Has her desired 2 kids, blows up like a balloon as a SAHM, wanting the husband to help with all the housework and looking after the kids once he gets home from work because she has done it all day. No time for sex but "Why are you not a manager by now? You should be making more money".

-She will fuck the bad boy down the street in the afternoon... But you have to dress up, take her out for an expensive meal and nice wine in hopes to get a sniff.... but that's not tonight, she would not want to sell herself cheaply to you, maybe in a few week's (month's) time, she's a quality woman....

Originally Posted by RustyNuts

Yes,

-Then you look at the number of sexless marriages when the wife is the cause, not wanting/feeling like participating, but still wanting all the benefits of the currency exchange... Her SUV, Master Card and Visa, international holiday vacations/ cruises, loaded bank accounts...

-Has her desired 2 kids, blows up like a balloon as a SAHM, wanting the husband to help with all the housework and looking after the kids once he gets home from work because she has done it all day. No time for sex but "Why are you not a manager by now? You should be making more money".

-She will fuck the bad boy down the street in the afternoon... But you have to dress up, take her out for an expensive meal and nice wine in hopes to get a sniff.... but that's not tonight, she would not want to sell herself cheaply to you, maybe in a few week's (month's) time, she's a quality woman....

Why would anyone ever get married? It's like milking a crocodile! Those aren't nipples you're squeezing!

Once you decide not to play, you get your pieces back. But you have to decide to stay away from the game to keep them. In the dating game, the person who cares the least, wins. That seems to go for relationships between individuals and the game as a whole.

Originally Posted by mgtower

Why would anyone ever get married?

-70% chance of failure...

-80% chance she will file for divorce.

-The only contract where someone is rewarded for breaking the contract. And that isn't you...

Ya great question Mate, "Why would anyone ever get married?".

Originally Posted by RustyNuts

-70% chance of failure...

-80% chance she will file for divorce.

-The only contract where someone is rewarded for breaking the contract. And that isn't you...

Ya great question Mate, "Why would anyone ever get married?".

Because they're special, they're not like other men, mortal men, losers that can't get laid, weaklings that can't hold together a marriage, support a family, and no matter what, do the right thing! <sarc/off>