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    They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    Attacks on MGTOW from the mainstream are ramping up. Here's an example:

    https://www.gq-magazine.co.uk/politi...n-way-movement

    Whilst a lot of what happens to MGTOW communities, doxing, removal of content etc, are bad; articles like this are good for men considering MGTOW. These articles are without exception poorly written, dismissive and easily discredited. Any men on the fence about MGTOW are more likely to go MGTOW due to articles like this. They will see the vitriolic bile against MGTOW, go find some MGTOW content and immediately realise how ridiculously over the top and dishonest these attacks are.

    The opposition are all stick and no carrot, they will make hyperbolic attacks against us, demonise MGTOW as the vilest scum who have ever lived, yet give no incentive to do otherwise. Sure they'll say MGTOW are "pathetic" and "bitter losers who are unhappy with their lives" but will not say what society will give men who engage with women and society as they are told to. These men just get more lectures, more demands and inevitably, more stepped on.

    The most beautiful part? We don't even need to hide this fact from those who attack us. Lets say some man-hating feminist is viewing this right now, looking for snippets to quote in some article. They will learn nothing from this, they will not adapt their strategy to something that has a chance of actually deceiving men. They are incapable of it. The system they have created demands 100% hatred towards opposition at all times. No consideration of their points of view, even to refute them, is acceptable. Any article that even suggests that MGTOW addresses some genuine concerns will be immediately denounced as heresy by the establishment mob.

    Let us sit back and watch, each day watching the evidence that we have chosen the right path in life piling up.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    Geez, that article was lame!

    It belittles MGTOW while telling the readers in its commercially attractive title that we are the Taliban and to not be complacent! Well, which is it? Are we laughable? Or fearsome?

    We are something with which the author has pumped out another days' product. That much is obvious.

    From the article:

    the official Men Going Their Own Way website (mgtow.com)
    Ha! Official! Ha! I'm not even going to explain this one to the lurkers!

    Porn on tap, bitch-slapping beats
    WTF is he talking about? Do our threads ever intersect with that? No. That stuff is not MGTOW-driven.

    “The red pill represents a new phase in online misogyny,” wrote Donna Zuckerberg, author of
    New? NEW? I guess now that Orange Man has sidestepped their crosshairs, whatever now shows up in their sights is NEWS to them!

    A NEW threat! Gotta keep that media income stream flowing, ya know.

    Taliban... don't be complacent...

    But what you notice about all of them is that they never stop talking about women.
    And doctors never quit talking about diseases and illnesses. Spreads awareness to other men. Duh. This superficially-thinking author is teaching his readers how to park their brains on superficial notions. Blue-pill smugness stems from that.

    Rachel Sturm, a professor at Wright State university who worked on the research, said, “When men say, ‘I’m not going to hire you. I’m not going to send you travelling. I’m going to exclude you from outings,’ those are steps back.”
    Yeah, right. I'd like to see her sources. Nobody says that. I know the underlying thought in her comment, but she's dishonest to fabricate quotes to amplify the effect. She's another woman who is part of the problem. She could have stated her point accurately and honestly, but that's one of our complaints, isn't it? That women manipulate with language and no one calls them out on it.

    Except MGTOW, for the benefit of only men.
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    Suitable for bookmarking: www.fakehatecrimes.org and www.breitbart.com/tag/hate-crime-hoax

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    Taliban Tower.

    I like it!

    They know that in a debate, I'll lop their (preverbal) intellectual heads off and kick them around like footballs, or just flatten the ones I don't like! Mind rape is the worst rape of all rape because there's no court of law or justice that can stop or penalize it! I say fuck them silly on that account! Like we're doing now in this group fuck the MSM.

    I don't recognize anything as being "official", especially not some website, leave alone the government. The only thing official in this world is god, my feet, and how fast I can out maneuver the tyranny!

    Just mentioning us in any light whatsoever is like wiping away flaming napalm on their skin! They never write a second article or go on a warpath.
    United we stand, divided we are.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    On second thought, lets consider who should shoulder the blame for MGTALABAN and the conception we have spawned?

    A man raises his voice to his wife, because she wants to have a sleepover with Chad or Tyrone in his house, and in a court of law under her complaint of DV, he's told by the judge that he's wrong for raising his voice, that she can have anyone over that she chooses then writes a restraining order against him to immediately vacate the premises under the watchful eye of a Deputy Sheriff.

    I know a young man that suffered this fate, however, later, after the whirlwinds of liberation engulfed his young X-wife, she blossomed into a full blown drug, alcohol, and child abuse case later fought and awarding him permanent custody of his two kids, and her? Damaged beyond redemption and headed to an early grave.

    That story is the gem in my treasure chest of marital broken dreams! Not to be confused with my other treasure chest, streets of broken dreams.

    The MSM is truly a monolithic narrow minded short sighted hen that only know how to peck, they don't investigate or consider other possibilities, they never peel back the layers of time like an onion, they judge everything on the thin layer of now narrated and fermented in blind group think.

    We're on a battlefield created by capitulating fools that gave away our birthrights, masculinity, freedom, then nailed us down to their incompetence conscripted by law upon law, decade after decade until public exhibitions of any masculinity was all gone and scoured clean for the replanting of gynocentrism.

    Any injustice system or should I say "symptomatic injustice" creates outcasts and refugees like us and others, no true home, no place to belong, no trust, just fractures and pieces on the ground. We're no longer members of a thing called family, just animals without rights.

    The state is the head of the family and they say anybody can fuck your wife, and the wife can remove you from the family at a moments notice under the barrel of a deputy's gun.

    We're the Taliban of the mesosphere? No we're not! Women by state proxy control your destiny and rape you of your last vestiges of masculinity, transforming you to judicial mud under a jackboot's heel!

    We're not the ones using Gestapo tactics and toting the guns!

    Fuck these people! Give them nothing!
    United we stand, divided we are.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    Biggest truth you can unload on these fools is to let them know that the power to walk away is more appealing to us than to impose draconian measures like these fools constantly promote to the masses.

    Going your own way is not about controlling what the masses or fools do in their every days lives. What matters is your personal journey a a man.

    The fools over complicate what going your own way means because they think that life is complicated as sold by the lamestream media. And the lamestream media partners with others to sell to the fools solutions to life problems that don't exist while gas lighting men about real life problems that should be solved.

    Men are not the problem when the current environment is hyper sexualized, marketing in over drive, and a flood of useless consumer goods, gadgets, etc.

    Being free as a man is about building an identity that is created when you have enough time to let your passions grow and your true spirit to shine.

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    "The MGTOW are sorry excuses for men, but what they represent is a profound shift in the way men and women relate. We are increasingly afraid to work with each other, to flirt with each other, to love each other. We are becoming terrified of what, not so very long ago, was the most natural thing in the world."

    Poor baby. Some men don't want to play in the minefield you created....and that bothers you.

    Don't hate the player. Blame the game. Especially when you rigged the game and the player refuses to play.

    You told us women needed men like a fish needed a bicycle....and we took you at your word.

    Articles like this are signs that we are having an impact. It is as if it were the early 1960s, and the PTB were trying to convince people not to support the civil rights movement by saying the leaders were communists. Well, you didn't have to be a communist to know that segregated water fountains, lunch counters, and buses sucked.


    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    "The MGTOW are sorry excuses for men, but what they represent is a profound shift in the way men and women relate. We are increasingly afraid to work with each other, to flirt with each other, to love each other. We are becoming terrified of what, not so very long ago, was the most natural thing in the world."

    Poor baby. Some men don't want to play in the minefield you created....and that bothers you.

    Don't hate the player. Blame the game. Especially when you rigged the game and the player refuses to play.

    You told us women needed men like a fish needed a bicycle....and we took you at your word.

    Articles like this are signs that we are having an impact. It is as if it were the early 1960s, and the PTB were trying to convince people not to support the civil rights movement by saying the leaders were communists. Well, you didn't have to be a communist to know that segregated water fountains, lunch counters, and buses sucked.


    Ironically this current wave of feminazis are very militant and want to create segregation of everyone into rigid groups and sub groups. They accuse MGTOW of being separatists and yet they are the ones that initiated it all by ambushing men in court and public. They are proud of talking about Generation Z being compliant with gender fluidity and yet don't see that this causes more confusion for the young. Meanwhile older men and women that don't want to do deal with the hot mess orchestrated by the feminazis and gynocracy want no part of it.

    The feminazis are the tools used to divide people and then they complain that the divide actually happens. Fried Rice indeed.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    Thats awesome. I thought mgtow was forgotten about. Good to see its still making news. Thumbs up 👍

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    The GQ magazine is owned by the propaganda network: Conde Nast. During the pandemic they had a 45% slump in profits, so articles like this which are shocking, are used as desperate attempts to earn more cash. They are using the same tactics they used to de-platform PUA. They fabricated and lied about the industry in order to sway public opinion. I remember the article itself, they said all PUAS were rising Charles Mansons. The guys I hung out with back in 2005 were men looking for girlfriends to be happy with.... it was only until the mainstreamers came in that they wanted to start choking women on the approach.

    The NPCS are often docile and unquestioning and believe everything they read. The plantation/capitalism needs simps in order to function correctly. They will do everything they can to group MGTOW with INCELS. This is why they created the term 'Manosphere' it was to lump everyone together, a tactic they used in Nazi Germany in the 1940s.

    Notice that the female version of PUA which is up on Reddit, has been protected. The misandry on there has been ignored. They banned the MGTOW reddit quite quickly though. I saw it coming a mile away. They wait till you pass 100K then hit the ban hammer. They're trying to stop people from gathering around these ideas. Many are victims of articles like this (even social media managers) who fall for the lies and deception. They're using some sophisticated tactics in order to bring men back to the plantation (none which serve them in the long run)

    Society right now is trying to structure itself in ways where people cannot question Feminism/women without being labeled as an incel, which is dangerous to democracy. Unfortunately the tactics they use work. Many men will go back into a life of slavery and the blue pillar thought chamber. Their ultimate goal is to turn America/The west into Japan. Where you are forced to work 100 hours a week as a devalued and demoralised simp or you lose social status. Your boss will be female.

    This is why I believe MGTOW ghosting will be standard going forward. At least right now we have this forum to communicate on. I just hope Feminism enjoys what the end game looks like. The collapse. When the dust settles and everything is open, truth always wins..it always does.. always has..
    Last edited by ShogunRonin; February 24, 2021 at 10:54 PM.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    This scolding article, full of shaming language despite laying out why men are leaving the plantation, is about as much cultural influence as a hula hoop.

    "You runaway slaves! Get back here on the plantation! And you other slaves, don't you try escaping!"

    It is a magazine article in GQ, of all things! GQ used to be a fashion magazine for straight men with articles written by gay men.

    What is the readership of these things nowadays?
    82 GQ 946,726 1957 Condé Nast
    BWAHAHAHAHA!
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    This will be easy to flip around.

    MGTOW isn't an act of hate against women, it is an act of LOVE. Women get angry around me because my personality doesn't fit their expectations. I please women more by staying away.

    MGTOW is the ultimate love of women by leaving them alone. They clearly don't like us anyway, so we will leave them alone. It's a win, win situation.
    They intentionally say what we 'ought' to do instead of what we could do. For if the lion discovers his own strength, he will become uncontrollable.

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    Re: They Never Learn: All Stick and No Carrot

    Quote Originally Posted by Macavity View Post
    This will be easy to flip around.

    MGTOW isn't an act of hate against women, it is an act of LOVE. Women get angry around me because my personality doesn't fit their expectations. I please women more by staying away.

    MGTOW is the ultimate love of women by leaving them alone. They clearly don't like us anyway, so we will leave them alone. It's a win, win situation.
    Just spluttered my drink over my keyboard. Thanks for that. But true nonetheless. LMFAO.
    "Those who would give up essential Liberty, to purchase a little temporary Safety, deserve neither Liberty nor Safety." - Benjamin Franklin

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    If we're being made fun of by women's groups then that's a good thing, it means we're worrying them.


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