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    Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    Reposted from https://communities.win/c/MGTOW/p/14...age-as-dishw/c
    Credit goes to OP (subutti0503).

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    One of the examples of such change is 'Dishwashing discourse (on marriage)' which spreaded quickly like wildfire and hit all the major South Korean male-centered online communities that it was covered by numerous news articles, including ones on major South Korean newspapers and magazines.
    To put it simply, 'Marriage as Dishwashing' is nothing but a (probably discovered independently) South Korean equivalent (or rediscovery) of the Anglophone redpill manosphere's theory of 'Alpha fucks, Beta bucks' plus 'the juice is not worth the squeeze'.
    Namu Wiki entry on it states :
    연애경험이 전무하거나 매우 적은 사람이 젊은시절 문란한 성생활을 즐겼던 상대방과 결혼하는 행위를 타인이 식사를 마치고 남은 더러운 식기를 자발적으로 설거지하는 것에 비유하여 비합리적인 선택임을 주창하는 인터넷 상의 담론이다. ..... '설거지론'이라는 명확한 이름을 가지고 대대적으로 널리 알려지게 된 것은 2021년 10월 하순부터이지만, 사실 의외로 2015년 (구)주식 갤러리를 비롯한 과거 디시인사이드의 몇몇 갤러리에서 이미 담론이 제기되어 왔던 적이 있다.
    A discourse on the web that argues marriage with a woman with a plenty of cock carousel experience is an irrational life choice for men (especially for those with relatively little or even none of experience of relationship with women), by likening marriage to an act of washing the dirty dish left over after someone else ate up the food placed on it. ..... it was not until the late october in 2021 that the discourse was specifically named 'dishwashing theory (of marriage)' and circulated widely in male-centered online communities. The same idea, however, was brought up in a few bulletin boards of DC-Inside, including the former 'stock investment gallery' in 2015.

    And here are a few of the phrases to sum up 'Dishwashing marriage' :
    책임 없는 쾌락, 쾌락 없는 책임
    Pleasure without responsibility (for women), responsiblity without pleasure (for men)

    퐁퐁이가 지금까지 쌓아온 재산과 학벌, 지위, 남은 여생 전부를 바쳐서 얻은 여자는 가장 찬란하고 빛날 때 전남친과 섹파에게 공짜였다! 어쩌면 지금도 남친 섹파에게 공짜일지도?
    The woman to whom you got married by providing her with all the wealth, social status you worked so hard to make and sacrificing the rest of your life was just free for someone else when she was the most shining and gorgeous. Possibly, free even now for her sex partner boyfriend?

    And the following is 'Self-check points for Dishwashing marriage', cited in a news article, "The Dishwashing Theory as a social phenomenon, not as misogyny (혐오 표현이 아닌 사회 현상으로서의 '설거지론')".

    1. You are under the impression that your wife doesn't love you.
    2. Your income is above the average income level.
    3. Your wife controls about money (including your own monthly earnings).
    4. You had relatively little or zero experience of relationship with women before marriage.
    5. The entire period of the relationship you had with your current wife was rather short.
    6. You married your current wife as a result of your first relationship with a woman, and you started it at a relatively late age.
    7. You share household work with your wife even though you are the sole breadwinner.
    8. Your wife refuses to have sex with you or she is expressionless when you have sex with her.
    9. You think you are not so sexually attractive, objectively speaking.
    10. Your wife wouldn't have dated you when you were in your 20s.
    11. You have to get a permission from your wife to spend a small amount of money for yourself (i.e., for your hobby).
    12. There are very few (if any) or is no pictures of you posted on the social media pages of your wife (such as Facebook, Instagram etc)
    13. You bore a bigger share of financial burden for marriage (like for buying a house.& furnitures, preparing for a wedding and so on) than your wife.
    14. Your wife complains, often or sometimes, she does most of parenting children work as a stay-at-home mom.

    ..... and so on. (the rest of the check questions omitted here).

    The dishwahing theory is not MGTOW per se (just like 'Alpha fucks, beta bucks' isn't MGTOW in and of itself), but it's a positive, meaningful development and breath of fresh air to see that a kind of question of 'what is so good for men about marriage?' is addressed and widely shared, discussed by young Korean men in 20s 30s, given the fact that this country has been a hopelessly and almost throughly blue-pilled tradcon country when it comes to marriage, at least over the last several decades since the Korean war.

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    For those who prefer commentary, there's a Korean youtube explaining the Dishwashing trend: https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=8DH4hpsllJo

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    Dating and marriage have been declining in parts of Asia for decades. It's party economic, part cultural, part changing social dynamics. Japan and Korea are both prominent examples. I see articles all the time claiming Japanese and Korean youth have no interest in dating or marriage.

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    I like the concept.

    Treating marrying up like cleaning the dishes makes sense to me.

    Take a tart, any old tart, and wash her clean by marrying her and giving her credibility in society.

    (Sarc)

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    Interesting development. Its nice to see own countries having their own organic ideas develop in this area. All over the world, the truth is the truth. Some men will see it, whether guided or not.

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    This is yet another proof that female behavior is what it is regardless of the culture she lives in.

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    I thought Asians and African Americans were ahead of the curve than simp ol' whitey, but then things like this happens which makes me wonder why they sometimes seem behind the west.

    More exposure to feminism? As far as I know, the Japanese grass eaters, the massive male/female ratio due to the china one child nonsense policy, for no reason, were happening fairly early on, as well as the SYSBM black movement.

    Also, for those of you still stupid enough to think you can go to asia and get that dream waifu, it an't happening. AWALT.

    You better go deep in the woods where they've never had missionaries or roads or electricity.

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    im gonna start using this in "western" forums too. a more subtle way to talk about the chad CC

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    We no longer live on farms where children come in handy to help work the fields. Women are no longer useful or needed to maintain a household. Living life is no longer for society's benefit. We all want to have fun now because in the end we die and our lives ultimately don't matter.

    Unless you still live in an ultra traditional country these things are now pretty much universal. Good to see East Asian guys waking up. I suspect Indians will be next followed by Arabic and Africans.

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    There's a reason women in SE Asia and Latin America are mostly conservative and family-oriented: poor economy.
    Simply put, most women here can't earn a living on their own. So, they look for a man who can maintain her and her kids, and they offer good housekeeping skills and take care of their appearance. And since every other woman is also looking for those good men, competition among ladies is fierce.

    Wanna get a wife who cooks good, looks good, keep the house clean, and wants to be a mother? Come to a 3rd-world country. But you need to STAY in such country, since being exposed to 1st-world feminism will corrupt her.

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    Quote Originally Posted by gtrFreak View Post
    There's a reason women in SE Asia and Latin America are mostly conservative and family-oriented: poor economy.
    Simply put, most women here can't earn a living on their own. So, they look for a man who can maintain her and her kids, and they offer good housekeeping skills and take care of their appearance. And since every other woman is also looking for those good men, competition among ladies is fierce.

    Wanna get a wife who cooks good, looks good, keep the house clean, and wants to be a mother? Come to a 3rd-world country. But you need to STAY in such country, since being exposed to 1st-world feminism will corrupt her.
    I don´t know all Latin America but in Brazil it´s not true at all. Here woman usually have more money than man and there is no competition at all. It´s the opposite really. A lot of woman is fat* and a lot of man lift weights and compete to have mediocre woman.

    *Not soo fat as in USA but still more fat than most of man.

    Speaking of fat, it's amazing how many mothers-in-law are fat and ugly and yet idiots marry her daughters. The mentally retarded don't realize that these women when they get old will look like their mothers-in-law.
    The future is gone, hope is in the past

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    Re: Latest MGTOW trend in Korea: Washing Dishes Theory has become a very sensitive topic

    Quote Originally Posted by hello_world View Post
    it's amazing how many mothers-in-law are fat and ugly and yet idiots marry her daughters. The mentally retarded don't realize that these women when they get old will look like their mothers-in-law.
    so true!!!


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