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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Faramir View Post
    I'll chime in: from my experience, and from the experience of many (generally older) guys that I have talked to, if you have a lot of sex with a lot of different women, what you'll find is that about 10% (maybe 15% tops) of those experiences are memorable. Many more of those experiences are either a) average/meh or b) downright bad.
    I can confirm this. It’s exactly what I wrote in my previous post. I’ve had some very depressing sex.
    Only 10% to 20% was good. Maybe 5% was excellent. But I can also confirm that there are better things to life. Better than those 5% of fantastic sex.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    But I can also confirm that there are better things to life.
    You had earlier described yourself as a Chad and I think you indicated you had lots of sex. Paid not a dime for it, etc.

    I've never had the chance to knowingly talk to a Chad before.

    So, I'm curious to ask... When you were a Chad, did you feel the way you wrote above? Or, when/why did it change for you? How did other lower priorities finally eclipse the priority of sex?
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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Unboxxed View Post
    You had earlier described yourself as a Chad and I think you indicated you had lots of sex. Paid not a dime for it, etc.

    I've never had the chance to knowingly talk to a Chad before.

    So, I'm curious to ask... When you were a Chad, did you feel the way you wrote above? Or, when/why did it change for you? How did other lower priorities finally eclipse the priority of sex?
    I always felt like that, except for a period in my adolescence where I felt awkward and insecure like most young adults. Women always chased me. Once I hit puberty all the girls in the neighborhood wanted to be my girlfriend. This seems to be the total opposite of what many dudes on here experience d. It’s one of the fascinating facts of life, that if you don’t want something, you get it. And if you try hard to get something, you’ll fail.

    I just figured out a lot of red pill truths through observation even as a kid and then I met a lot of red-pilled men. I’m eternally grateful for that, because eventually some cunt would’ve trapped me and I would’ve ended up on the plantation.

    Intimate relationships with women are clearly not the purpose of life and they are risky. Why would I waste my precious time with that? Saints, sages and wise men of all cultures and religions always knew this.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Sex CAN be totally amazing and wonderful. That's if you're together with someone you're totally, madly in love with and are sure she'll be totally loyal to you. In other words, sex is at its best if you're totally deluded. When you escape the delusion, it loses its appeal, and you learn that it's usually way more trouble and risk than it's worth.

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    You are not missing anything brother. At first I used to obsess over their fish flaps. After hiring escort and having sex multiple times it's really not worth it most men nowadays put up with shit test after shit test Just For What? 20 minutes in the sheet of starfish sex. And if somehow they didn't like it they can accuse you of rape with no evidence afterwards? No thanks sex is too much of a hassle now and I can take care of it much easier with my flesh light

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    Anyome payfor sex

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    You are wise. My primary focus from 12-35 was getting some. Had zero self-control. Was totally enamored with, obsessed with and possessed by women. As I was prone to LTRs, my body count is under 20. As I was tall and handsome, I didn't have to chase women. They'd just show up and I'd give it a go. As I was always on the hunt for the next best thing, the relationships never lasted more than a few years. The endings always resulted in very hard feelings, with two post-escape false accusations levied. The false accusations did damage, but luckily I was able to recover. In today's legal climate, the false accusations would have stuck and, because of the damage such modern accusations do, I'd likely be dead from prison, homelessness and/or suicide.

    Note to Self: Relationships with women can destroy your entire life.

    I got married in my mid 30s, which was the single biggest mistake I've ever made. "Falling for the one" was my absolute and final undoing. The psychological and emotional damage from that descent into Hades still gives me daily nightmares, even 11 years post divorce. I'm not exaggerating. I recovered from the Bid D, but the scars are deep and will last a lifetime.

    Was it all worth it? Nope. The damage that can occur in relationships is real and you can't just undo it. It's like eating tons and tons of really awesome food. It's highly enjoyable at first, but given enough time, it will destroy your life. So it is with women. If I could give it all back and be more like you, I would do so in a heartbeat. I gained nothing from it but the realization that I was a naive and utter fool.

    I envy you.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by mgtow2021 View Post
    Anyome payfor sex
    Every man pays for sex; either dinner and drinks, cash up front or a ring and a house.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by TigPlaze View Post
    Sex CAN be totally amazing and wonderful. That's if you're together with someone you're totally, madly in love with and are sure she'll be totally loyal to you. In other words, sex is at its best if you're totally deluded. When you escape the delusion, it loses its appeal, and you learn that it's usually way more trouble and risk than it's worth.
    Be careful there, TigPlaz, starting a post with that kind of language can get you shot for looking like a unicorn, just like the crazy cunt that dressed in brown and wore antlers to stop hunting in the Quabbin reservoir! Remember, this is home of U-Mass/Amherst/North Hampton and Triggly Puff!

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by _RPK_ View Post
    Every man pays for sex; either dinner and drinks, cash up front or a ring and a house.
    That’s just nonsense.

    Only simps pay for sex. And then the sex is terrible because the woman doesn’t even wanna fuck you.

    If they wanna fuck you, they will. At the very least for free, but usually they will do you favors too. I had women clean my shit, take me out on dates and buy me presents.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    I never had any idea that so many men had such limited sexual experiences. Truly amazing.
    I, on the other hand, have had sex with well over a hundred women and while it's true that some of them were really bad lays, some of them were fantastic.

    Trying to come up with a fitting analogy about sex is difficult,if not impossible. Perhaps the closest I can come up with is the desire to have great food. Yes, a man can survive on baloney sandwiches, but sitting down to a meal prepared by a great cook is a memorable experience and well worth the wait. All I can say is that I feel sorry for those who have only had baloney sandwiches. I, on the other hand, do not regret a lifetime of eating succulent BBQ pork ribs slathered with a tangy/spicy sauce.
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    The thing is — after you’ve had succulent BBQ pork ribs slathered with tangy/spicy sauce 30 or 40 or 100 times, the novelty starts wearing off. Yeah, they can still be good every once in a while but eventually you find yourself going out of your way to get them less and less…especially as you age and the hormones calm down.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Loner View Post
    I never had any idea that so many men had such limited sexual experiences. Truly amazing.
    The amount of people on here who seem to think it’s some sort of good idea to buy women stuff is shocking.
    That’s the reason they’ve had bad sex or no sex at all.

    It’s really basic redpill stuff that you never ever pander to women like that. They’ll get dryer than the Sahara Desert and despise you for this sorta behaviour.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    …especially as you age and the hormones calm down.
    Off topic, but important. That’s medical misinformation! As a male, your hormone levels should stay the same throughout your adult life. If your testosterone starts declining, that means there’s something wrong with you.

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    I don’t buy that. Just look at the ability of say an 18 year old to build muscle compared to say a 55 year old that isn’t on TRT. If hormone levels never declined we would regularly see jacked elderly people that look like Sylvester Stallone (who is obviously on the gear).

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell View Post
    I don’t buy that. Just look at the ability of say an 18 year old to build muscle compared to say a 55 year old that isn’t on TRT. If hormone levels never declined we would regularly see jacked elderly people that look like Sylvester Stallone (who is obviously on the gear).
    You are confusing correlation with causation. Statistically speaking the average testosterone drops with age. But that doesn’t mean this is normal, natural or healthy. It just means that the older people the higher the chances of them getting ill or adapting a harmful lifestyle. And that weighs on the statistical average.

    I know quite a few guys around 60 who are jacked by any standard. My own test levels haven’t dropped at all and I am in the best shape of my entire life by far.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Loner View Post
    I, on the other hand, do not regret a lifetime of eating succulent BBQ pork ribs slathered with a tangy/spicy sauce.
    From your Intro:

    Quote Originally Posted by Loner View Post
    I only wish that I had discovered why I felt such a strong need for female companionship much, much earlier in my life. It would have saved me a mountain of grief.
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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Lost virginity at 24; tried many times before that and had many failed attempts due to a mix of (A) Me being too naive and fearful to make it happen and (B) the sexual market place being a fuc*ing mess. Had satisfying sex in a relationship for a few years, and a couple of times since. In my experience:

    (1) Sex can be fantastic but that's difficult to achieve. It has to be in a situation where the odds of something horrible happening are sufficiently low to be put out of mind. When right, its feels great and gives you a good, but temporary, boost to your self-respect and motivation.
    (2) As someone who's done it, chasing mediocre pussy and/or paying a high price for this (in one way or another) is a degrading and humiliating experience. Psychologically it cuts deep and takes time and effort to heal up, like any other such experience.

    Personally, the costs of sex now far outweigh the benefits, especially compared to other things that my time money and effort can go into. I've tried every option, long-term relationship, pumping and dumping, and escorts. For reference, I've always had a low sex drive and its gets lower the older I get.

    If you're young and horny, I'd advise trying to find low-risk ways to have sex (e.g. for the love of all that's holy don't co-habitate or get married) until you've had some experience, then re-consider once you've tried it a few times, preferably with different women. If you're older and considering getting back into it, make sure you're looking back on the bad as well as the good. Its easy to look back with rose-tinted glasses.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by Bam View Post
    From reading the replies, I get the impression that a lot of guys never had any really good sex.

    Before I went monk I was a “chad” and I had a lot of sex. 80% of it was mediocre to boring, but some of it was fantastic. Much, much better than masturbating. No comparison.

    But to answer your question, there are a lot of things in life that feel fantastic. Heroin feels fantastic too. Doesn’t mean you should start shooting up heroin. The fact that despite having great sex, I went monk mode should speak for itself.

    There are a lot of downsides to dealing with women. When you have really, really good sex with them, they will become attached to you and can cause life-changing problems for you. I had one bitch stalk me for over 10 years.

    It’s also a matter of delayed gratification. If you focus on other things in life, the payoff will be much greater and sustainable.
    It's more complex than that. I have had sex with women who were like porn stars and more intimate encounters and of course ones who were like starfish. Many of all three types were with escorts and brothel workers. I liked paying that way as when it was done it was done, you walk away.

    I would compare it to something you may not be interested in or that passionate about. For example I am not into sports at all. You could show me the best game between two elite teams in an elite comp and I would still just shrug. I guess for me it was never the be all and end all like it was for a lot of guys and I was just curious what the fuss was about so explored it in a way that was safe and easy for me. Prostitution being legal here made that easier.

    As you say there are lots of down sides to dealing with women. I noticed that mostly through others and side stepped it to a large degree. I think you mentioned somewhere if you are good in bed they virtually become your slave which I agree with.

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    Re: Is sex all that great??

    Quote Originally Posted by McDudeski McGee View Post
    By "every man pays for it," people mean that it is foolish to look for love in something transactional. We're not simping for McDonald's when we buy a Big Mac.
    I am not following. The guy I responded to was talking about sex, not “love”.

    And the modern word “love” is sadly very imprecise. In ancient greek there were four different words for four different types of “love”: pragma, agape, eros and ludis. Not trying to be obtuse, but “love” can mean totally different things entirely. What do you mean by it?

    And the Big Mac analogy makes no sense to me. Sex is not transactional. McDonalds has no interest in you eating Burgers unless you pay them. They are interested in the money, not the act of you eating.
    But men and women want to fuck each other. Paying somebody to fuck you just makes no sense to me. It’s like paying someone to play a game with you that many people like. Isn’t it less fun if you know they are only with you because you are paying them? Why wouldn’t you just play with someone who actually wants to play?


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