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    Question Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Who's familiar with NoFap here?

    I have been addicted to pornography since age 10. I am 21 now. I recently started taking an antidepressant (Prozac+Olanzapine) that gives ED/kills sex drive so I haven't fapped in 3 days, but, should I exploit the lack of sex drive to quit porn forever?

    I have constant brain fog and concentration/attention issues, but everytime I come across anti-porn material it comes off as propganda. I don't know how, but the claims made about how quitting porn would give you superman powers just feel too good to be true.

    The longest I was without PMOing (porn/masturbation/orgasm) was for like 10 consecutive days, around 3-4 years ago.

    My sleep is bad too. I sometimes stay past midnight and every other month pull an all nighter playing video games or watching Netflix. I sleep for 6-7 hours a day.

    I feel constant brain fog, drowsiness and bad attention. I got no medical issues that I know of.

    I haven't fapped for 2 days now. Should I hold it for 88 more days and see if NoFap has merits?

    I am on the fence on NoFap. I neither agree nor disagree with its' principles, because both sides of the argument make bold claims without any proof.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    IMO porn is only a problem if you become obsessed with it. If you occasionally enjoy looking at sexy photos or videos, that's no big deal. On the other hand, if you put your life on hold by wasting all your time with that shit, you've got a problem. I've never believed in the no fap thing. I think that has roots in obsolete religious ideas. I agree with that the famous atheist, Madalyn O'Hair said: "If it feels good and it doesn't hurt anyone else, relax and enjoy it." I think a lot of religions have made people super uptight about sex. The feminist religion does that now too, trying to shame men for enjoying photos of naked women. It's normal to like that stuff. Just don't obsess over it or let it control you.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Pornography isn't doing very well in Afghanistan, neither are its enthusiasts!

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    No it's not serious, it's shaming men for masturbating. It's a fucking travesty.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Hypernova View Post
    No it's not serious, it's shaming men for masturbating. It's a fucking travesty.
    Fucking is just masturbating with a women instead of a hand!
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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    >NoFap

    What TigPlaze said -- regularly taking care of your basic needs is not addiction, especially when you're in your twenties. If you're looking at porn at work, at the gas station, at the supermarket etc. then you have an addiction.

    >sleep

    I find that eating the same times everyday, along with keeping sugar intake below 30g daily (sugar is basically poison) makes it easier to sleep the same times every day -- I wish I knew this earlier. Everybody's different though.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Depends on what you are watching. Hardcore bound and torture, even mild bdsm. Not many women are gonna be into that. Once you go down a dark road it's hard to find your way back. If your sexual thrill is violence or forcing you may have trouble with regular sex and in the heat of the moment end up committing rape. Or at worst, become Dennis Rader.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    >I recently started taking an antidepressant (Prozac+Olanzapine) that gives ED/kills sex drive so I haven't fapped in 3 days, but, should I exploit the lack of sex drive to quit porn forever?

    I hated being on that stuff. Gained weight, made me dull AF. I quit as soon as I could sustain being off it (Beware, quitting can be dangerous- as the depression can get far worse).

    Here's what made getting off more palatable:

    * Work out: lift weights. Run. Do it 3-4x a week.
    * Check if your are low-testosterone. If so, get organic treatment, power positions; or TRT.

    Working out is something I wished I discovered at your age. And lifting the right way- with technique and pushing yourself to failure and so you keep increasing the weight you do. Schwarzenegger's guide to lifting is a great guide but there's a lot of stuff online. Not just going to the gym and doing bare minimum and the same (low) weights each time.

    Porn can be an escape when we have little other sources of happiness. In that case, it may serve a purpose but long-run it's helpful to have other areas that excite you.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Work out.

    Take Vitamin D.

    Get off the brain drugs. They are supposed to be temporary - for acute episodes.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    I'm an old man and in my 20's - 40's Faping was the only way to release sexual tension. A Daily Fap kept my sex hormones under control for the most part.

    Porn only becomes a problem if it's interfering with your life. If watching porn instead of working or going out with the guys or on a date, if you are lucky enough to find a datable woman these days, then you might have a problem.

    Like others have said you need to figure out what the real problem is that's got you on head meds, all drugs should be considered temporary, not something you take daily.

    I struggle with keeping healthy enough to stay of old age drugs like blood pressure and cholesterol meds, you don't want your life dependent on something that comes in a bottle.

    Do things that will improve your life, Eat Right, Exercise, Take some supplements because no one eats a truly balanced diet these days.

    Think about spending time on some hobbies that you have to work at like learning a new skill etc, not something that's just sitting in front of a screen.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    TLDR; Learn to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. Learn to love the pain. Put in the hard work (nothing comes free)


    Hey dude, I respect the self reflection and brutal honesty with yourself to ask this kind of question. You need to accept that there is an issue to be able to fix it in the first place. What you wrote is very relatable as I've been in your shoes before. I discovered nofap myself around 2015/2016 but eventually transitioned to semen retention which I find much more grounding and self-fulfilling. I'm 22 myself and I'm surprised to see someone at your age hanging around these parts. I'd think most guys our age would be blue pilled and chasing women or red pilled, doing their thing. I hope you can get something hearing my perspective

    I personally believe porn addiction is a serious issue.

    Like you, I had discovered pornography at a young age (11) and looking back, I'd consider myself to have been an addict back then. Growing up, I was a lonely kid and pornography and video games became my escape. By the age of 13, I was noticing I was really sad all the time but had no idea why. I just had a feeling something was off. I eventually decided to seek some help and got diagnosed with depression. That began the journey of battling depression through my teens. I had never finished highschool and recently got my GED at 19. I was in and out of highschool, never having the strength to get out of bed due to lack of desire to live and the overwhelming hopelessness that consumed me. I'd go days without eating because of my desire for death.

    What I found that helped turn things around was nofap. I didn't realize the effect of constant dopamine flooding had on my brain due to watching porn and how releasing constantly was affecting my mental psyche and emotional state. It truly was an addiction for me and I was no better than someone hooked on cocaine. Constantly needing porn to "feel better" and acting like a zombie when I'd be without it. (Sluggishness, brain fog, anxiety.) Taking porn out of my life made it 1000% better in my opinion but just to be clear, I have nothing against porn and go ahead if you want to watch it. Everyone can do what they want with their bodies. I'm sure cocaine feels amazing but do you really need to do that? In the same vein, watching porn feels amazing I admit, but do you really need to do that? You need to educate yourself on the effects porn has in your brain. Only through this can you understand why you are doing nofap and be truly successful with it.

    I found that going through nofap helped me fight my depression. I had seen multiple doctors and psychiatrists and they'd always try to prescribe me anti-depressants. I truly hated the thought of having to be dependent on a drug to make me "feel better." The mere idea was revolting to me. I'd rather have died than be dependent on drugs and that led me to struggling through my emotional instability/pain/ and suffering. I'm glad I chose to do it that way because I learned how to be comfortable with being uncomfortable. I learned to love my pain. When you go through nofap, you will be very uncomfortable. You will go through withdrawal just like any other addiction. You will have intense urges and cravings and your brain will come up with a 1000 excuses just to have a little peak. This battle is the healing process and is something you must do if you want to get better. If you don't want to do the hard dirty work and sit comfortably with your coping mechanisms, that's on you man. Tough people aren't born cool and tough. They've had to through so much tough shit to become the person they are today.

    Being free from the grasp of porn made me truly love and appreciate life so much more. Instead of lusting after girls on a screen I'd never get to fuck, I started to lust after life and all the beauty our world contains. I get your skepticism when you hear people getting these "superman powers" just from quitting but you gotta put it in perspective. In my shoes, I went from a lifeless, anxiety ridden, unproductive zombie who stayed up way too late to someone who wakes up at 5:30 am, takes cold showers and eats healthy, takes care of himself and works out, and is someone who can get shit done. I'd say the difference between my two selves is strikingly different and who I am now is much more superman like compared to who I was before. It's not that nofap gives you this sudden newfound strength, but it enables you to tap into your inner potential and stop all the bullshitting you do to yourself.

    Truly, how much more free time would you have to work on yourself if you didn't spend it all watching porn and jerking off? Another thing to consider is that watching porn and orgasming gives you a satiated feeling. When you orgasm, your brain floods with prolactin to calm your brain down from all the dopamine that was flooding your brain earlier. Look into the effects of what prolactin does to your brain. This ties into why I'm into semen retention but this is a whole other topic that'd make this discussion a lot more longer.

    You can easily find the benefits of doing nofap that people list on reddit so I won't talk about it here. I'm here to say that it works and it changed my life. It wasn't something I did forever though. The premise of nofap was to do 90 days minimum. I felt so in love with how I felt during nofap that I wanted to keep doing it beyond nofap. That is how and where I got into semen retention, something I highly recommend looking into.

    Honestly, it doesn't hurt doing nofap. Are you losing anything from going 90 days without watching porn and masturbating? And how much do you have to gain? Obviously your gains will only reflect how much hard work and effort you put into this time. If you spend all the extra time sitting on your ass and not improving yourself, you're not gonna get anything out of it, other than more regulated hormones and emotional stability. Another thing to consider is that sex energy is powerful and you should learn how to master it and transmute it. Almost all powerful men are highly sexual. What makes them different is that they know how to use their energy and transmute it into creative purposes other than procreation. Wether that be their businesses, careers, goals, artistic creations, or inventions. Search up the most famous people who've done semen retention. These people include Steve Jobs, Nikola Tesla, Muhammad Ali and many others. If you know, you know.

    I'd say try it out, whats the hesitation that puts you on the fence? You can't lose trying. If after 90 days, you feel better and it works for you, then I'd be super proud and glad. If you believe it doesn't work and you got nothing out of it, you can continue to keep watching porn for the rest of your life. There is no wrong answer here. It's a thing that affects quality of life. Some people want to be that $100 fillet mignon. Some people are content with being a shitty quality $2 burger. The choice is yours. I hope I was able to give you some perspective

    Some things to check out

    -Semen retention (look it up on google or check the semen retention reddit )

    -Book: "Think and Grow Rich" (Look into sexual transmutation and sexual mastery. The whole book is great overall though. The main theme is consistency.)

    - Book: "Cupid's poisoned arrow" (Talks about effects of orgasms on brains and how it affects your interpersonal relationships. Although the main theme of the book is about "karrezza" and why it's good, lol)

    - search the website yourbrainonporn on google (Website about porn addiction)

    - (Ted talks about porn. Just search Porn addiction ted talk in youtube and a bunch of videos come up. Informative)

    Be curious, keep researching and asking questions. The only enemy is yourself and a defeatist attitude.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by PhattDawgg View Post
    I'm an old man and in my 20's - 40's Faping was the only way to release sexual tension. A Daily Fap kept my sex hormones under control for the most part.

    Porn only becomes a problem if it's interfering with your life. If watching porn instead of working or going out with the guys or on a date, if you are lucky enough to find a datable woman these days, then you might have a problem.

    Like others have said you need to figure out what the real problem is that's got you on head meds, all drugs should be considered temporary, not something you take daily.

    I struggle with keeping healthy enough to stay of old age drugs like blood pressure and cholesterol meds, you don't want your life dependent on something that comes in a bottle.

    Do things that will improve your life, Eat Right, Exercise, Take some supplements because no one eats a truly balanced diet these days.

    Think about spending time on some hobbies that you have to work at like learning a new skill etc, not something that's just sitting in front of a screen.
    I resonate with this. As a hormone abuser i am very horny at age 40. Jack off like 5x a day. Also have the testosterone levels of a 25 year old. If I didn't have porn I would probably become sexually frustrated and angry.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Porn gave me ED. I couldnt get hard unless I watched asian women in theeesomes with white guys. (Everyone develops a niche at some point) So when I had sex with real women I couldn't get it up unless I imagined that specific scenario. I stopped watching porn and jacking off for 4 months, now my dick works and one on one sex with a real girl can turn me on again. Porn causing ED is the only reason I quit watching, even viagra couldnt help me with ED. I needed to rid my mind of thise images .... just sharing my experience.

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    Quote Originally Posted by Trema View Post
    Porn gave me ED. I couldnt get hard unless I watched asian women in theeesomes with white guys. (Everyone develops a niche at some point) So when I had sex with real women I couldn't get it up unless I imagined that specific scenario. I stopped watching porn and jacking off for 4 months, now my dick works and one on one sex with a real girl can turn me on again. Porn causing ED is the only reason I quit watching, even viagra couldnt help me with ED. I needed to rid my mind of thise images .... just sharing my experience.
    Did you go 4 months without jacking off? or just 4 months without watching porn?

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Trema View Post
    Porn gave me ED. I couldnt get hard unless I watched asian women in theeesomes with white guys. (Everyone develops a niche at some point) So when I had sex with real women I couldn't get it up unless I imagined that specific scenario. I stopped watching porn and jacking off for 4 months, now my dick works and one on one sex with a real girl can turn me on again. Porn causing ED is the only reason I quit watching, even viagra couldnt help me with ED. I needed to rid my mind of thise images .... just sharing my experience.
    How many years were you deep into porn without human sex? Teen virgin to whatever don't count. I mean relationship ended, how long and deep did it get? How many hours not just jacking but watching? Did you start sexualizing females you shouldn't be when walking around town?

    These are the deep seeds I think it ends up planting. As you say you need more stimuli, that will go to the extremes. That's gonna be abuse. Doesn't mean kids, could be fake strangle a woman or tie her up and whatever. Good luck finding woman who into that !!! Fantasy for reason.


    If you don't want to answer that's okay but I see myself peeking down a dark road. Since Covid I have been into a lot more aggressive porn. That's not good and could easily in the heat of the moment end up in a sexual assault. Sad but true. Groping a girl and feeling her up a bit is a fine line if you can't recognize if there is any emotional/tension. Porn is pure fucking, and any resistance is off the script.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    "Should I exploit the lack of sex drive to quit porn forever?" Yes

    "I haven't fapped for 2 days now. Should I hold it for 88 more days and see if NoFap has merits?" At only 20 days in i have made some serious lifestyle changes that i attribute to abstinence, meditation, nootropics and quitting videogames.

    "I am on the fence on NoFap" Do it if you want to, my suggestion is that you don't let popular opinions influence your decisions. What is 90 days of time for something that could become a new source of change for you?

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Is Porn addiction a real thing?

    No.

    This has been another episode of easy answers to easy questions.

    "I have constant brain fog and concentration/attention issues,"

    Thats usually a really good indicator your doing something mentally unhealthy. Stop doing that. Or in this case start doing the thing you stopped again.

    "but everytime I come across anti-porn material it comes off as propganda."

    That's because it is. NoFap was invented by feminists to make men desperate enough to think land whales are sexy. As far as i am concerned anyone advocating it is a feminist plant. but Thats just me.

    "I don't know how, but the claims made about how quitting porn would give you superman powers just feel too good to be true."

    They are. Quitting porn induces the brain fog you just described making you do really stupid things. Like have sex with a women you would never normally have looked at sideways out of desperation. Or changing your whole life to make yourself more attractive to said women. Again, the entire point of no fap is to make you so horny that you consider doing something staggeringly stupid just to get your dick wet, like get in a relationship or worse married. Thats why you see feminiss and tradcons advocating it. They want your to break. Thats the point.

    You have nothing to prove to anyone, yourself or anyone else. You are you. Be whoever that is. Without shame, without remorse. Unless you are physically hurting other people nothing you do is ever wrong.

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgmarx View Post
    Quitting porn induces the brain fog
    That's my experience as well. Empty balls = clear mind, easy focus, lots of stuff gets done. Setting your swimmers free should be as uneventful as taking a shit.

    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgmarx View Post
    anyone advocating it is a feminist plant
    But but almost all powerful men -- Mitch McConnell, Michael Bloomberg, Bill Gates -- are highly sexual! Don't you want to be a powerful man? hahaha

    Quote Originally Posted by CloudBound View Post
    Truly, how much more free time would you have to work on yourself if you didn't spend it all watching porn and jerking off?
    Daily? five minutes lol

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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Of course it is.
    Moreover, it's fake.
    It's slavery to the baser ideas surrounding the need for soulless female-assisted ejaculation.
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    "Drink to enjoy life, not to get drunk."
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    But Jack died a severe alcoholic and wreck of a man.
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    Re: Is porn addiction a serious thing?

    Quote Originally Posted by Vulgmarx View Post
    Is Porn addiction a real thing?

    No.

    This has been another episode of easy answers to easy questions.

    "I have constant brain fog and concentration/attention issues,"

    Thats usually a really good indicator your doing something mentally unhealthy. Stop doing that. Or in this case start doing the thing you stopped again.

    "but everytime I come across anti-porn material it comes off as propganda."

    That's because it is. NoFap was invented by feminists to make men desperate enough to think land whales are sexy. As far as i am concerned anyone advocating it is a feminist plant. but Thats just me.

    "I don't know how, but the claims made about how quitting porn would give you superman powers just feel too good to be true."

    They are. Quitting porn induces the brain fog you just described making you do really stupid things. Like have sex with a women you would never normally have looked at sideways out of desperation. Or changing your whole life to make yourself more attractive to said women. Again, the entire point of no fap is to make you so horny that you consider doing something staggeringly stupid just to get your dick wet, like get in a relationship or worse married. Thats why you see feminiss and tradcons advocating it. They want your to break. Thats the point.

    You have nothing to prove to anyone, yourself or anyone else. You are you. Be whoever that is. Without shame, without remorse. Unless you are physically hurting other people nothing you do is ever wrong.
    Great response. It goes back to "cui bono." Women are encouraged to indulge in all sexual liaisons and fantasies, with all the dildos of different color shapes and sizes, and to never be questioned, yet men has must starve themselves in the name of NoFap in order to satisfy women. Again, who benefits?

    I never understood why men apologizes whenever they can't "get it up." First of all, it's unmanly to apologize for something like that, secondly why automatically assume it's your fault for not being the guy she wants to be at that moment?


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