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    Is Modern Feminism starting to undermine Itself?



    The comments on this video are every bit as good as the video.

    Women like this are outliers. I see it all the time in the anti-feminist women. They talk as if it is possible to reach women with sort of speech. They see the genuine unfairness but their solipsism makes them think that all women must be able to see this sort of truth, if only they are exposed to it. They fail to understand the truth of their own gender.

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    Re: Is Modern Feminism starting to undermine Itself?

    I don't mean to make an invidious remark, but why do you, as a MGTOW found this interesting? Looking through many of your posts, you often like to find videos of female MRA, or disillusioned former Feminists.

    Of course I am not trying to say this or that about you, I am just wondering why as MGTOW, we should be caring about whether women have become disillusioned with the feminist movement?

    MGTOW, for me is about looking through issues through a male lens. Personally, if women suffer because of the excesses of feminism or this or that ideology, then that makes me happier.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

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    Re: Is Modern Feminism starting to undermine Itself?

    Quote Originally Posted by Opaque View Post
    I don't mean to make an invidious remark, but why do you, as a MGTOW found this interesting? Looking through many of your posts, you often like to find videos of female MRA, or disillusioned former Feminists.

    Of course I am not trying to say this or that about you, I am just wondering why as MGTOW, we should be caring about whether women have become disillusioned with the feminist movement?

    MGTOW, for me is about looking through issues through a male lens. Personally, if women suffer because of the excesses of feminism or this or that ideology, then that makes me happier.
    I think it shows that women are not hive minded as we have been led to believe. Personally women can say they are anti feminists but the core of feminism is about reproductive privilege without the consequences.

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    Re: Is Modern Feminism starting to undermine Itself?

    I think it shows that women are not hive minded as we have been led to believe.
    I certainly have never believed that women are hive minded at all. I have always maintained the position that women and men aren't much different and that they shouldn't be treated differently.

    However, women make morally corrupt choices to favour themselves and their group over men. This is where the hive mind exists, if it exists at all. And we should judge women (all women, no exception including our mothers and female siblings) in accordance with the choices they make in their lives.

    It is pretty simple, women make morally corrupt choices and once the gravy train runs out, they begin to play the victim; exactly what disillusioned feminists are doing in many movements - be it MRA, Anti-Feminists or whatever.

    My main contention with anti feminist material is that it comes from women. Therefore it means we are getting explanations from women, about women, and this explanation is coming from the female perspective. So we are, in this sense chained to the female imperative.

    I do not at all mind MRA, or this or that group. I am very much in support of their work around, for example, circumcision. I would like to see this barbaric ritual completely eradicated.

    It's just interesting to observe, that men are always interested in what the female perspective is. We shouldn't care, and as I have previously stated, if women suffer from this, we should derive pleasure out their suffering, let them go fuck themselves as far as I care.

    The only time I would ever respect a women is when they share insights about their manipulative natures, and how we men can get a one up on them. This is the only women I can respect and the only time I am interested in listening to them.
    A mother cannot raise a boy to be a man, not because he needs a father figure; but because she favours team vagina over her own son.

    Tradcon women are the most manipulative of all kinds of women, because they infect you with false hope.
    Radfems are your best friend, because they hate you and verbalise it - that's honesty!

    The red pill rage is a process which takes many many years - so be kind and patient with yourself; you will overcome it!

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    Re: Is Modern Feminism starting to undermine Itself?

    Looking at western society, I think we can safely state that women are not the friends of men. They are destructive manipulators with finely-tuned strategic mindsets, out primarily for themselves. They are always on the hunt for new prey.

    That pretty closely fits the definition of "enemy."

    Choosing to ignore an enemy is one of the best ways I know of to get killed in battle. I might go so far as to say that choosing to have nothing whatsoever to do with an enemy qualifies as "aiding and abetting." Just because a man doesn't want to pay attention doesn't mean his enemy will ignore him. If anything, the man's passivity and withdrawal will encourage the enemy to assault him even more swiftly than he attacked his prior victims. The only difference is that the man gets it in the back while he's busy not paying attention, rather than in the chest while he is. And of course it's far less work for the enemy. Frankly, it's the enemy's wet dream: free kill, free meat, as the saying goes. And zero casualties. All wars should go that well.

    The best way to beat an enemy is to get in early and stay engaged. By "engaged" I mean from a distance, a la Bletchley Park: keeping your finger on his pulse -- in order to understand how he thinks so you can predict his next move. Monitor his actions within his own camp, his internal communications, his society's workings with all its internal agreements and conflicts.

    Without long-range radio receivers, radar, and Bletchley, all of Europe would be speaking German right now. I would hope we can take a lesson from that fact.


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