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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    I've watched many of his videos, and actually listen to his long for (3 hour) shows when off-roading for the lolz.

    My point was his attempt to get back the nuclear family and get as many people married as possible is trad con, which is fine, but isn't generally where MGTOW is going, so any of that information isn't particularly useful, unless one is still chasing marriage.

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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    Just another vulture, getting rich off society's bones and inspiring youngsters to do the same.

    Playing the game, wearing his mask. Devoid of humanity.

    Anyone that pleases the powers that be is a fucking enemy of mine.

    Anyone with a soul would be teaching people WHY their lives have become such a misery. Not pretending like "it's all good, now let's get rich and successful".

    Got no time for people without souls any more. Add him to the list of almost everyone in the public eye.

    This is NOT is not his message. He is a critic of "prosperity gospel preachers."

    He is NOT saying "it's all good, now let's get rich and successful".

    In fact, he tells men, that, for of them, under the current conditions, marriage is a bad deal.

    He is confronting the Powers That Be.


    Listen to a couple of his podcasts, then attack.
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    Quote Originally Posted by DangZagnut View Post
    I've watched many of his videos, and actually listen to his long for (3 hour) shows when off-roading for the lolz.

    My point was his attempt to get back the nuclear family and get as many people married as possible is trad con, which is fine, but isn't generally where MGTOW is going, so any of that information isn't particularly useful, unless one is still chasing marriage.
    Even if one is not marriage minded, the show is useful to learn how to avoid the piranhas in the dating pool. Where else can you go, aside from TikTok, to learn how to spot the snakes in the heads of most women?
    An escort is a woman you occasionally financially support only when she has sex with you.

    A date is a woman you occasionally financially support in the hope she will have sex with you.

    A wife is a woman you constantly financially support even when she is not having sex with you.

    An ex-wife is a woman you constantly financially support with alimony so she can have sex......with someone else.

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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    Anyone who uses platforms to host their ideas must comply with the rules (written or otherwise) of those platforms.

    Therefore I automatically assume KS to be a tool of the West because his entire platform is FB and Youtube. Especially as he has Youtube plaques decorating his desk. He's therefore, to me, a crypto-male-advocate; crypto being, those who pretend to be something they are not.

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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    This is NOT is not his message. He is a critic of "prosperity gospel preachers."

    He is NOT saying "it's all good, now let's get rich and successful".

    In fact, he tells men, that, for of them, under the current conditions, marriage is a bad deal.

    He is confronting the Powers That Be.


    Listen to a couple of his podcasts, then attack.
    What, are you on his payroll or something?

    I've watched loads of his videos. At first I found it mildly entertaining but his schtick became boring: making fun of and putting entitled and dumb women in their place, constantly reinforcing the message that VALUE means having money.

    Honestly if you can't see this underlying message, you must be dazzled by his charm and status. It's clear as day.

    "A high value man is one who makes £10k a month for 2 years" or whatever. The question is TO WHOM is this "high-value"? It's not high value to me. What you earn has ZERO to do with your value as a man. It only has 'high value' to vulture, entitled, nasty women, who is mostly the women he has on his show hence is the MESSAGE HE'S GIVING OFF ABOUT WHAT IS NORMAL.

    He's 'selling' you a version of normality and the only ones buying it are low-level spirituality PUAs.

    Make money, get hot chicks, being the focus of life. Me Me Me. How about looking at what's happening in the world and trying to do something about that, rather than reinforcing it? That would make you a more 'high value' man.
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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    Quote Originally Posted by sam luis obispo View Post
    Look up his "average at best" video that went viral.

    https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=VI6XWGKvUrE

    He is knocking the crown off of many a "queen" in every show.

    His question, "what do you bring to the table?" triggered thousands of women into unmasking themselves with their "I AM the table" solipsism response.

    He does not recommend marriage for most people.
    I just listened to that video. Hey, that was good!! I've never heard of this guy. Didn't know a thing about him. What fun to watch him strip off her delusions, one at a time. To her credit, she took it. He has some gimmick where he presses his screen and the sound of a cracking whip is heard. Not sure what that means. The last minute of that video was the funniest, when he has had enough of her act.

    "Get the fuck off my phone!"

    Thanks for that link, sam. This could be like listening to Tom Leykis on the nights when he has female haters call in!
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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    "A high value man is one who makes £10k a month for 2 years" or whatever. The question is TO WHOM is this "high-value"? It's not high value to me. What you earn has ZERO to do with your value as a man. It only has 'high value' to vulture, entitled, nasty women, who is mostly the women he has on his show hence is the MESSAGE HE'S GIVING OFF ABOUT WHAT IS NORMAL.

    He's 'selling' you a version of normality and the only ones buying it are low-level spirituality PUAs.

    Make money, get hot chicks, being the focus of life. Me Me Me.
    To be fair, KS's idea of an HVM is deeper than just "make lots of money." It also includes status, appearance, and demeanor (so-called 'alpha' or leadership qualities). Although he gives it less emphasis, his HVM concept also includes values such as honesty and responsibility.

    All of this is trad-con, so it will be anathema to most people here. However, it is also accurate, because it is rooted in evolutionary psychology and simple observation. This is what women want. This is what women consider an HVM: wealth, status, looks, and leadership. As long as we are confining the idea of "high value" to the sexual marketplace (i.e., to how one gender assesses the other), then his HVM concept of men is more or less accurate.

    MGTOWs don't pursue female validation, though, so all of that HVM modeling falls on deaf ears for us. I'm just trying to make the point that KS is a little deeper than just "make money, bang hot chicks." Not a whole lot deeper, but a couple inches anyhow...

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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    But that's where it leads. It leads to men thinking their value is in how they look and how much they earn. That if they follow it they'll acquire high value women. Which is to say, materialistic, ruthless men will attract gold digging shallow hoes.

    It's part of the spiritual problem facing humanity.

    If men develop properly spiritually, they'll see all that shit doesn't matter. Why don't we lead them to that truth much earlier in their lives?
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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    Quote Originally Posted by happybachelor View Post
    But that's where it leads. It leads to men thinking their value is in how they look and how much they earn. That if they follow it they'll acquire high value women. Which is to say, materialistic, ruthless men will attract gold digging shallow hoes.

    It's part of the spiritual problem facing humanity.

    If men develop properly spiritually, they'll see all that shit doesn't matter. Why don't we lead them to that truth much earlier in their lives?
    Men are lead astray from childhood onward until an awakening, we're that awakening. you literally have to sit down and reformat your mental hard drive and reload it with truths instead of lies.

    The truth is our cultural transformation started long before we were born, and progressively mutated and transformed to this toxic society driven by poisonous toxic laws enacted all throughout this grotesque transformation.

    It's time to pull the plug or go up in flames! There's enough fire and destruction to warn them for us, they need to make the first move, then it's only a matter of seeking, finding, and the resulting awakening.

    I say this because I pulled my own plug to avoid going up in flames! Female empowerment and command is a short circuit for men, unplug or burn!
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    Re: Is Kevin Samuels the most dangerous man in the manosphere?

    His podcasts are wayyy too long for me to listen to in entirety, but I've heard plenty of his commentary. I think he's there more for the women than the men and I'm glad he's hitting them in the head with pure uncut dose of reality...


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