"Do Not Impregnate" discussion - moved from another thread

[MrWalton]

I was shadow-banned by my local newspaper, such that you see your comments posted but no one ever acknowledges them (via responses or "likes"). I pulled up an anonymous browser and my comments did not appear where they had appeared with my regular browser. That's how I knew. Nobody saw them but myself. I talked to the newspaper office and got myself reinstated but they admonished me for going too far. I had imitated the degree to which others were posting, but my post was pro-men so I was the one who got reported.

Why bother?
Move to Asia, spread your genes among the women that want them.

[Unboxxed]

Why bother?
Move to Asia, spread your genes among the women that want them.

I don't follow you here. Got shadow-banned so expatriate?

Spreading my genes sounds like conception to me.

The MGTOW motto bears repeating:

Do NOT marry. Do NOT co-habitate. Do NOT impregnate.

Besides, I'm not moving anywhere for pussy's sake. No orbiting.

[mgtower]

I don't follow you here. Got shadow-banned so expatriate?

Spreading my genes sounds like conception to me.

The MGTOW motto bears repeating:

Do NOT marry. Do NOT co-habitate. Do NOT impregnate.

Besides, I'm not moving anywhere for pussy's sake. No orbiting.

Add "Sputnik" to the MGTOW lexicon for describing a "global orbiter"!

[MrWalton]

The MGTOW motto bears repeating:

Do NOT marry. Do NOT co-habitate. Do NOT impregnate.

Besides, I'm not moving anywhere for pussy's sake. No orbiting.

I have no idea what you mean about 'shadow-banning'
I don't agree with "Don't impregnate", it's nothing to do with MGTOW and is not part of the movement.
Ghengis Khan, (my personal hero) was never afraid to impregnate.

Part of the gynocratic trap is the BS you hear about, "Man up and take care of your children".
No Viking on a rape and pillage mission ever worried about impregnating.
I say, impregnate at ever opportunity, and allow beta orbiters to raise your many offspring.

If I hadn't expatriated, I'd have had to work for the last 20 years, instead of drinking and whoring my way through life.
MGTOW is not about being an InCel, it's about not relying on women, not supporting women and not giving them the opportunity to asset strip you.
By working and staying in your home country, you're still supporting women, paying tax and financing the gynocracy.

[Unboxxed]

I have no idea what you mean about 'shadow-banning'

Well, I thought I had explained it somewhat in my post which you had recapped in your response to it. I'm surprised you didn't read it. No idea, huh? You can always google it.

Ghengis Khan, (my personal hero) was never afraid to impregnate.

Ok, so you model yourself after an historical figure whom you admire. Somehow, you believe this makes impregnation an active part of MGTOW? It's not, you should realize.

You're talking like a Chad, don't ya know. An active babe-magnet. Finally do I understand your pretty avatar. Just sayin'.

I don't agree with "Don't impregnate", it's nothing to do with MGTOW and is not part of the movement.

Nothing to do with MGTOW, you say? You are uninformed on that point. I'm surprised you would say that about MGTOW.

MGTOW is not about being an InCel

Agreed, and we do not allow Incels on this site. No one is saying MGTOW goes without sex. We advise to not impregnate. To avoid traps, we recommend using your own birth control even if the woman uses her own, or claims to use her own.

Somehow, in reaction to your experiences with women, you have apparently convinced yourself that a MGHOW should be actively pursuing hit-and-run pregnancy or else he is not MGTOW. Avoiding impregnation has "nothing to do with MGTOW", you wrote. Huh?

And then there's this pair of conflicting quotes:

MGTOW is ... not giving them the opportunity to asset strip you.

and

I say, impregnate at ever opportunity,

Yeah, no opportunity to asset-strip you there, with DNA testing and all.

MrWalton, you're not making sense today.

[MrWalton]

Yeah, no opportunity to asset-strip you there, with DNA testing and all.

MrWalton, you're not making sense today.

I'm making perfect sense, where I live only married men can legally be fathers.
No marriage certificate = no responsibility, and no enforcement in child maintenance even if awarded against a divorced father.
(fixed rate $150/month per child, don't pay if you don't want)

In the UK, where I used to live, maximum child maintenance was for 3 children, any more than 3 kids and they just divided the same amount between all the children.
(I had 4 there)

And in the west, if they don't know your name or address, not much chance of being DNA tested.
If you live on welfare, and have no income, they can't get child maintenance either.

We need to actively break the system, wherever we are.

[LizardPerson]

I see both sides of the argument. Impregnation is incredibly risky no matter what, and just because some location does not crack down on it now, does not mean that they won't by the time the kid is an adult. You do not know what future law and culture will be like.

OTOH, if you are Chad-ing correctly, impregnation is not that dangerous even in America, but still it is playing with fire and will be incredibly costly if it goes wrong. If she does not know where you work or live, and your full legal name (and any woman you fuck should never know those things), it is not as if the authorities will help track you down. Even if they can use an online DNA test, unless you have a family that posts way too much information on such a website and links it to contact info, and respond to random strangers asking for info about family members, they still will not be able to find you. This is exactly why they quickly run off to fuck another sucker and tell him it's his baby. If you are going to partake, I would even recommend carrying a 2nd burner phone just for women that might want to exchange numbers. Stay off of social media, or at least convince them that you do. Practice "Safe Sex".

However, I have to side with "do not impregnate", even if I am not averse to a good pump-and-vanish.

[mgtower]

Giving a woman a baby is giving a woman power in any culture. I say giver them "nothing", not even the time of day.

By working and staying in your home country, you're still supporting women, paying tax and financing the gynocracy.

This next quote is somewhat anti convert, I'm too busy warning betas and showing them the error of their ways, and you can bet through my 6 years of posting I've converted many and even stopped some from taking their own miserable blue pill lives. The below statement is counter intuitive and somewhat corrosive to the message I've been singing.

I say, impregnate at ever opportunity, and allow beta orbiters to raise your many offspring.

^^^That is misleading on too many levels, what you're saying is be a generator and conduit to utter misery for may others that these actions effect. MGTOW is just the opposite, we avoid misery as well as generating misery, that's a woman's perverted purpose in this transformed man hating, man abusing, and man killing culture.

MGTOW is not about being an InCel

How do you equate not casting your seed to the wind as being incel? Your advice to impregnate willy-nilly is dangerous, reckless, and will come back to bite you in the ass, even if you get away with it, you can't wash off scumbag, it sticks to a man like the color of his skin. I couldn't live with myself behaving like that! Promiscuity already drove me to madness and razor cut close to blowing my brains out! Literally sir, I know the flavor of steel and gun oil, I thank promiscuity for most my psychological troubles that drove me to insanity.

Let women decay like an abandoned factory and let them suffer the psychological ruins.

[mgtower]

I'm not here to shame you, blame you, or cast some high and mighty shadow over you, I've been there, I'm just trying to make full circles so anyone can see the connections I make from this vat of poison soup poured into every man's heart!

What you're saying below is the exact result of the woman's liberation transformation and all the social changes solidified like concrete. Women are not family oriented under this concrete block. So that nukes any hope for "family" <got that atta the way. Now they have children from many different men and none of the men are fathers, they're slaves made to serve her bastard cult that only know the name .gov as "father". Leaving us no place to stand except as slave or "abstinence". I chose to pour my own batch of concrete with plenty of abstinence in the mix, letting time cure the mix.
By willingly feeding them the human children they need to run this fiasco, by default that's keeping their entire shitshow rolling and functioning the way they made it, the way they perverted it, not to mention the multitudes of bat'shit crazy undisciplined psychological wrecks they unleashed on society! Seeing any full circles yet? Here's one, our combined "abstinence" from their controlling interests in this new form of social structure loaded with cognitive dissidence and gaslight madness is abruptly ending in their own empty wombs as it was men that were made to suffer and finally had enough and chose to go away heart, mind, and soul, only to find himself smiling in many different ways never imagined the whole time he was gynocentrism's slave! Anything else is living with one foot cemented in their grave and the other wanting to run!

I say, impregnate at ever opportunity, and allow beta orbiters to raise your many offspring.

We need to actively break the system, wherever we are.

It's already broken, all we need to do is walk away and let it burn on it's own without our help, why help them carry their firewood to the blaze?

MGTOW monk is the far right to all the social madness and mental decay caused by women's liberation and men not walking away and leaving them to their liberty they created, a civil war within itself full of all the rewards of killing one another.
We didn't start this war, we only fired the last shot in our defense, the war is over, no winners, only inpasants, stalemates, and ending the game.

[Unboxxed]

where I live only married men can legally be fathers.

We need to actively break the system, wherever we are.

And where you live, do you believe active impregnation is the strategy to break the system there, such that you recommend it?

If not, then may I ask what is it that you are doing to break the system there?

Purposely wanting to make babies with women so you can leave them to deal with it, to fulfill your admiration of Genghis Khan, is something specific to yourself and not a definition of MGTOW.

[mgtower]

I'd have had to work for the last 20 years, instead of drinking and whoring my way through life.

As for alcohol, it's to inebriate a man that goes home to a wife that doesn't love him or want to fuck him, it boosts estrogen levels and makes men impenitent over time, it shuts down the liver's other 500 filtering functions to concentrate on alcohol, those toxins remain in the blood until the liver has metabolized the alcohol, it thins membranes making us vulnerable to internal hemorrhages and bleeding, including heart attack and stroke, and a host of other philological and psychological mutations. I can't help but stand firmly against this logic as I have suffered enough from drinking early in life and ended it's course by quitting, that and smoking, I went to all out battle with my demons like a raped ape on a warpath, I was told it's better to glean these demons down and get control of them, but no, I slaughtered them all in less than a passing season, gone was everything as I was like a kid in a candy shop seeing all the toys I couldn't possibly have before, the world was my oyster and I knew I was on the right road as the blessings kept piling and life got going! I left gynocentralia and all its misery like penny sitting on a lit M-80!

The run scene in Forest Gump I can really relate to! I was going over mountains and valleys like they were potholes and washboard! The national forests became my favorite playground! I've gone straight up (climbing), straight down (cliff hucking while skiing) and seeing wildlife in all it's natural splendor being the only human around for many many miles.

What everyone else was doing became no concern of mine I was busy eliminating all friction and drag in any form it took on to slow me down, especially women, I see them as having to endure psychological misery in a plethora of different directions, like a frog stuck in a sand blasting cabinet!

Impregnating a women is suicide to the independence and free will I speak of and endorse as an alternative to Gynocentralia's plantation, where a man dies before he's 50 and like some caged domesticated bird with it's fight feathers clipped, he never got a chance to fly.

[Faramir]

Yeah, no opportunity to asset-strip you there, with DNA testing and all.

MrWalton, you're not making sense today.

He's saying bareback as much as you can in a foreign country.

[MrWalton]

As for alcohol, it's to inebriate a man that goes home to a wife that doesn't love him or want to fuck him, it boosts estrogen levels and makes men impenitent over time, it shuts down the liver's other 500 filtering functions to concentrate on alcohol, those toxins remain in the blood until the liver has metabolized the alcohol, it thins membranes making us vulnerable to internal hemorrhages and bleeding, including heart attack and stroke, and a host of other philological and psychological mutations. I can't help but stand firmly against this logic as I have suffered enough from drinking early in life and ended it's course by quitting, that and smoking, I went to all out battle with my demons like a raped ape on a warpath, I was told it's better to glean these demons down and get control of them, but no, I slaughtered them all in less than a passing season, gone was everything as I was like a kid in a candy shop seeing all the toys I couldn't possibly have before, the world was my oyster and I knew I was on the right road as the blessings kept piling and life got going! I left gynocentralia and all its misery like penny sitting on a lit M-80!
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I've been drunk nearly every day for the past 12 years .............. 65 years old now ....... no heart problems.
Also smoke cannabis nearly every day.
Spend about $3/day.

Not sure what you mean about toys?

[Azure Nomad]

There are men in the west that will knock up so many women that .gov gives up trying to squeeze money out of them.

Personally if you as a man are living in a western country I wouldn't take that risk IMVHO. I have never been to eastern countries or SEA so I have no clue what the ramifications are to be honest by knocking up women out of wedlock.

[Unboxxed]

what the ramifications are to be honest by knocking up women out of wedlock.

I assume they are the same as anywhere else in that she receives assistance, financial or otherwise, from outside of herself and her babies.

That is, others are made to pay.

[MrWalton]

I assume they are the same as anywhere else in that she receives assistance, financial or otherwise, from outside of herself and her babies.

That is, others are made to pay.

You're wrong, there is no financial assistance for single moms in much of Asia.
(China/Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam/The Philippines, I haven't lived in other countries so can't say)

They work, or they (and their children) go without.
An interesting side effect, is the women often don't want custody of the children (including divorced moms), as they bring no income with them.
Usually in low level jobs, garbage collectors, street sweepers, gardeners, field hands, roadside food vendors are often women.

[Unboxxed]

You're wrong, there is no financial assistance for single moms in much of Asia.
(China/Thailand/Cambodia/Vietnam/The Philippines, I haven't lived in other countries so can't say)

They work, or they (and their children) go without.
An interesting side effect, is the women often don't want custody of the children (including divorced moms), as they bring no income with them.
Usually in low level jobs, garbage collectors, street sweepers, gardeners, field hands, roadside food vendors are often women.

Notice that it was an assumption, not an assertion, for the sake of smooth conversation, not something to be characterized as "You're wrong". That's a misfire.

Notice that I wrote "financial or otherwise", because I anticipated you.

You can't know if no non-financial help is ever offered to raise these kids, in terms of time and effort. By your own words, you target "beta orbiters" to compensate for your behavior.

[Opaque]

Mr Walton is free to pursue his life as he wishes - if it makes him happy to impregnate and spread his seed, I support him. I just don't think it would be a good idea to leave the country you were in, for the sake of spreading the seed. I choose to stay and fight the system as best I can.

I mean the amount of damage MGTOW is doing by simply not spending money going out on dates, buying jewellery, luxury perfumes and not to mention cars and houses, is enough to make the world top economies tank.

The UK is a strong and stable economy, and yet most people are wage slaves stacking shelves or on social benefits. Forget about lockdown, restaurants and jewellers were struggling before Covid.

I believe in the the strategy of least effort and maximum gain.

Bide your time, manipulate, lie cheat and steal, and then retire into your peace and comfort where ever that may be.

[mgtower]

Mr Walton is free to pursue his life as he wishes - if it makes him happy to impregnate and spread his seed, I support him. I just don't think it would be a good idea to leave the country you were in, for the sake of spreading the seed. I choose to stay and fight the system as best I can.

I mean the amount of damage MGTOW is doing by simply not spending money going out on dates, buying jewellery, luxury perfumes and not to mention cars and houses, is enough to make the world top economies tank.

The UK is a strong and stable economy, and yet most people are wage slaves stacking shelves or on social benefits. Forget about lockdown, restaurants and jewellers were struggling before Covid.

I believe in the the strategy of least effort and maximum gain.

Bide your time, manipulate, lie cheat and steal, and then retire into your peace and comfort where ever that may be.

I take it you're not a patron of the ten commandments? I broke a few myself, my last count was 11 (1 double bonus).

[Opaque]

I take it you're not a patron of the ten commandments? I broke a few myself, my last count was 11 (1 double bonus).

When the pastors, priests and imams start actually following these commandments and holding women accountable for their insolence, then maybe just maybe I might consider keeping the commandments. Until now, I say fuck the commandments; I will not be oppressed by double standards.

A shame I found out so late about lying and cheating to get ahead in life. We used to have a dear member Alik, in his immortal words "had I known how to manipulate like woman from childhood, I'd be a billionaire by now"

I am paraphrasing but you get the point.