Thread: I'm officially done trying to help men in fa subreddits

It's frustrating because I spent so many years going in circles, depressed suicidal and I was completely lost - but MGTOW saved my life.


So I feel a sense of duty and want to go back and help other guys, but they are so damn bluepilled they see me as the enemy while they keep licking the boot of the system that keeps them miserable.


I thought yeah thats to be expected but if I can save at least one guy it would be worth it, but man it's exhausting and getting in the way of my personal goals and things I want to enjoy. It's not fair to me to have gone through what I went through and then get ridiculed by the people I'm actually trying to help!


But that's part of the clown world I guess. I feel bad for them, but they literally would rather spend the rest of their lives complaining about how they want to die rather than listen to advice that will actually help them.

It's pathetic really. They will spend all day on reddit talking about how they want to die, but when I tell them legit advice that can turn their lives around they say "oh mgtow is a cope!" - some guys genuinely are fucking losers.

Most men spend the first 20-30+ years of their life heavily entrenched in a blue pill world -- no matter how logical, a foundational change in world views is going to be a hard sell. You're pushing against their mom, dad, aunt, uncles, grandparents, friends, etc -- everything they've been told all their lives by people they trust...so of course that will make you an enemy.

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Originally Posted by Mr Wombat

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I think he’s referring to Forever Alone

FA and incels have a frame of mind where they feel that they want validation from others when they refuse to validate themselves first. In other words you have to build up your own confidence and not care about external validation.

This takes time, life experience and a lot practice to build up the skill of internal validation. For me it came naturally as I always focused on what I cared about versus what I perceived others thought about me.

External validation for me is a nice pat on the back or a short lived ego boost. But internal validation is having a plan in place and accomplishing that plan. And feeling good about that plan for the next ten years. Why? Because I did it my way and my own internal compass.

Sheer will power is what drives men not external validation. Constant external validation that is short lived is really the domain of the feminine frame of mind.

I understand not all men are wired that way however I wouldn't consider myself an "alpha" but an ordinary man that believes in myself.

Being able to do a self evaluation of where you are strong in areas and where you are weak is a good starting point for any young man.

Originally Posted by Edwardhaskell

Most men spend the first 20-30+ years of their life heavily entrenched in a blue pill world -- no matter how logical, a foundational change in world views is going to be a hard sell. You're pushing against their mom, dad, aunt, uncles, grandparents, friends, etc -- everything they've been told all their lives by people they trust...so of course that will make you an enemy.

I agree. It's the equivalent of years of communist indoctrination. Since the time they were just 3 or 4 years old, most men have been brainwashed into believing that they are somehow at fault for everything that happens to women ( completely ignoring the fact that many of the bad things that happen to women are the result of their OWN bad choices).

So you are basically fighting against DECADES of indoctrination. It's actually far more easier to psychologically,mentally, emotionally and physically break down a group of arrogant army recruits and built them back up again to become one solid fighting unit.

And reddit is not a good choice to save men. They've been known to shut down male-positive forums. You can only help those who have been screwed over and then actually WANT to seek help.

That's why sites like this one are a god-send to men like us. Men who come here actually WANT to help each other.

Originally Posted by Presium

It's frustrating because I spent so many years going in circles, depressed suicidal and I was completely lost - but MGTOW saved my life.


So I feel a sense of duty and want to go back and help other guys, but they are so damn bluepilled they see me as the enemy while they keep licking the boot of the system that keeps them miserable.


I thought yeah thats to be expected but if I can save at least one guy it would be worth it, but man it's exhausting and getting in the way of my personal goals and things I want to enjoy. It's not fair to me to have gone through what I went through and then get ridiculed by the people I'm actually trying to help!


But that's part of the clown world I guess. I feel bad for them, but they literally would rather spend the rest of their lives complaining about how they want to die rather than listen to advice that will actually help them.

It's pathetic really. They will spend all day on reddit talking about how they want to die, but when I tell them legit advice that can turn their lives around they say "oh mgtow is a cope!" - some guys genuinely are fucking losers.

1. You mentioned subbreddits. There's your problem. It's Reddit. It's a White Knight liberal cesspool.

2. Most men won't listen to you if you tell them anything. They have something in common with women and that is they are always right. They get mad when you don't simp. I ignore people now and let them find out on their own. I had a frail 63 year old 5'3 guy threaten to kick my ass cause I wouldn't simp. He actually accused me of being scared of him. I literally just look at him and blinked like those NPC video game characters. It's just not worth the drama .